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Midwest Announces First CRJ Routes From MCI/MKE  
User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6277 times:

Press Release Source: Midwest Airlines


Midwest Airlines Launches 50-Seat Regional Jet Service, Next Step in Its 2007 Growth Plan
Wednesday February 7, 8:30 am ET
Midwest Connect Introduces Kansas City-Columbus Service; Puts Larger Aircraft and Increases Frequency in Popular Business Markets


MILWAUKEE, Feb. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Midwest Airlines (Amex: MEH - News) today announced the launch of 50-seat regional jet service, the next step in its 2007 growth plan. Travelers will soon benefit from new Midwest Connect service between Kansas City and Columbus, Ohio, along with larger aircraft and frequency increases in six popular business markets.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070207/aqw017.html?.v=4

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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6238 times:

To: All Midwest and Skyway Airlines Employees
Date: February 7, 2007
From: Scott Dickson, Senior Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer
Subject: Next Steps Toward "Right-Sizing" Our Airline

I am pleased to share the news that we are today announcing more schedule enhancements and the launch of our Midwest Connect 50-seat regional jet service operated by our new partner, SkyWest Airlines. As I talked about in this year's Community Meetings, we will "right-size" our airline in 2007 to enhance profitability by better aligning demand and capacity. Described below are more steps toward accomplishing that goal. The changes depict how we will deploy the first five 50-seat RJs and the resulting benefits Midwest and Skyway Airlines gain by reusing Boeing 717s and Fairchild 328JETs for new opportunities.

On April 1, we will launch our Midwest Connect 50-seat regional jet program by upgrading all service between Milwaukee and Columbus from 32-seat regional jets to 50-seat regional jets. In addition, two of four weekday flights between Milwaukee and Flint will be upgraded from 19-seat turboprop aircraft to 32-seat regional jets and we'll add Saturday service on the 32-seat regional jet.

Also beginning in April, 50-seat regional jets will operate two of four weekday flights between both Milwaukee and Minneapolis/St. Paul and Milwaukee and Philadelphia. The 717 freed up by this move will be used for our new service between Kansas City and Seattle/Tacoma.

On May 1, we will launch new Midwest Connect service between Kansas City and Columbus on 50-seat regional jets. The new service -- twice daily on weekdays and once daily on Saturday and Sunday -- will be the only nonstop service in the market. This new service will allow Columbus passengers to make easy connections in Kansas City to our major destinations in the western United States.

We'll also add and upgrade service between Milwaukee and four of our popular business destinations on May 1. These service enhancements include:

Adding a third daily roundtrip between Milwaukee and Dayton on a 32-seat regional jet.
Adding a third daily roundtrip between Milwaukee and Duluth/Superior on a 32-seat regional jet.
Upgrading service between Milwaukee and Louisville from 19-seat turboprop aircraft to 32-seat regional jets.
Upgrading three of four daily flights between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh from 32-seat regional jets to 50-seat regional jets.

Also on May 1, 50-seat regionals will begin providing service between Kansas City and Pittsburgh. The regional jet will replace the 717 currently operating on this route, which will be used to enhance the summer schedule we will be finalizing in the coming weeks.

The new service is now available for sale. Stay tuned -- more service change announcements will be made in coming weeks.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6194 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
...."upgrading all service between Milwaukee and Columbus from 32-seat regional jets to 50-seat regional jets"...

Considered an "upgrade" from the FRJ to a CRJ?... I think not.

Skywest CRJ's have a seat width of 17", Midwest Connect's FRJ's have 18.1" seat width....... Not to mention those frickin' low windows on the CRJ.  thumbsdown 

Wonder how many flights Mr. Dickson has made on a CRJ?

[Edited 2007-02-07 17:02:58]


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User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6175 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
Upgrading three of four daily flights between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh from 32-seat regional jets to 50-seat regional jets.

Sounds like a downgrade to me...I'd rather fly the 328 any day.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22726 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6148 times:

It looks like the 328 utilization is going to get a lot better. I'm not sure where they are squeezing this from, as the 328s don't really seem to sit on the ground too long anywhere; 25 minute turns are scheduled at a lot of the outstations.

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 2):
Considered an "upgrade" from the FRJ to a CRJ?... I think not.

I'd rather fly the 328 any day of the week, but there is more knee room on a CRJ, and the lav situation is better.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17346 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6125 times:

"and popular baked-onboard chocolate chip cookies"

CRJ's have ovens?? Does anyone else operate a CRJ with an oven?

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 3):
Sounds like a downgrade to me...I'd rather fly the 328 any day.

It's an upgrade in the sense that there are more seats...and it's not a Dornier Silly.



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User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

Looks like YX is more concerned about Skybus flying from CMH than XE(ExpressJet) entering MCI, at least for now. MCI-CMH has ~ 170 ppd and will be a way to shuffle CRJs between MKE and MCI.
The third flight into DLH is kind of surprising to me. Perhaps during that part of the day there was an extra FRJ?
Am I reading the one for one replacement of PIT-MCI correctly? I thought it would go 2x a day with the CRJ. I assume (I should not assume) the PIT 717 will be used for the year round RSW flight already announced.


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
"and popular baked-onboard chocolate chip cookies"

CRJ's have ovens?? Does anyone else operate a CRJ with an oven?

SkyWest is fitting ovens into the CRJs to be used on the YX routes.

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 2):
Skywest CRJ's have a seat width of 17", Midwest Connect's FRJ's have 18.1" seat width....... Not to mention those frickin' low windows on the CRJ.

Windows notwithstanding, the CRJs may be ex-Independence CRJs which supposedly have nicer seats than most CRJs.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17346 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 7):
SkyWest is fitting ovens into the CRJs to be used on the YX routes.

Sounds expensive and heavy.



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5912 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):

Sounds expensive and heavy.

Well it can't be too heavy and/or expensive if the FRJs have them already.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5864 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
and it's not a Dornier

Out of curiosity what don't you like on about the 328?


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5847 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 7):
Windows notwithstanding, the CRJs may be ex-Independence CRJs which supposedly have nicer seats than most CRJs.

won't they have to redo the cabins anyways?


User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5825 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
On May 1, we will launch new Midwest Connect service between Kansas City and Columbus on 50-seat regional jets.



Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
Also on May 1, 50-seat regionals will begin providing service between Kansas City and Pittsburgh.

Interesting how Midwest's route maps show that both MCI-PIT and MCI-CMH will be operated as "Signature Service" and not under the Midwest Connect operation.

-Mike



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17346 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 10):
Out of curiosity what don't you like on about the 328?

I have nothing against the 328s...it's just that CRJs are cheaper and theoretically still in production.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineWncmh From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5694 times:

I was surprise that Midwest Airlines start non-stop from CMH to MCI. I thought that WN probrably it first I was wrong.

User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5688 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
Upgrading three of four daily flights between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh from 32-seat regional jets to 50-seat regional jets.

BOOOOO!!! Do328JET's must stay! We have enough CRJ's to go around!

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
Also on May 1, 50-seat regionals will begin providing service between Kansas City and Pittsburgh. The regional jet will replace the 717 currently operating on this route, which will be used to enhance the summer schedule we will be finalizing in the coming weeks.

They better not. That's a pretty long flight. Whatever happened to the "Regional" in "Canadair Regional Jet"? I'm getting sick of all these CRJ's...



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5674 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
will be upgraded from 19-seat turboprop aircraft

Are they getting rid of the 19-seaters?


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5658 times:

Interesting news. I can't wait to fly YX for the first name in April on that new MCI-SEA nonstop, I've heard such good things. However, this new service could make it easier to get to CMH, which is a place I absolutely love - great news!

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5354 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5610 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 1):
The regional jet will replace the 717 currently operating on this route, which will be used to enhance the summer schedule we will be finalizing in the coming weeks.

Maybe SAN will get the second MCI flight back yet again this summer or, even better, perhaps SAN-MKE will be added. There seems to be a good possibility of a morning departure out of SAN (to MKE and all the connections available with that timing?) judging by F9's usage of their shared gate (#28). If not taking the RON a/c to MKE, then maybe it could go to MCI and make MKE the mid-day turnaround.

I hope we will somehow see SAN connected to both YX hubs this summer. I've got all my fingers crossed (which makes it darned hard to type!)

bb


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

Quoting Chase (Reply 16):

Are they getting rid of the 19-seaters?

Slowly, they should be out by mid-2008. http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/skyway.html


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5521 times:

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 15):

They better not. That's a pretty long flight. Whatever happened to the "Regional" in "Canadair Regional Jet"? I'm getting sick of all these CRJ's...

Oh, like the MKE-BDL run on the FRJ isn't too long for a regional? I'm surprised that one hasn't been upgraded already.

Quoting Chase (Reply 16):
Are they getting rid of the 19-seaters?

Yes.

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 19):
Slowly, they should be out by mid-2008.

If not sooner. Depending on how the EAS bids go, they may be gone this year.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5397 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 3):
Sounds like a downgrade to me...I'd rather fly the 328 any day.



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 2):
Considered an "upgrade" from the FRJ to a CRJ?... I think not.

My thoughts exactly. Though it does sound like the Midwest/Skywest CRJ experience may be a little more comfortable than your average CRJ flight; with their trademark baked on board chocolate chip cookies and redish-brown leather seats. While I'll definitely miss seeing the little Dork-jets around here, the tradeoff in finally securing nonstop service to Kansas City is most certainly worth it. Plus the added seats to Milwaukee is definitely appreciated.

Quoting TSRA (Reply 6):
Looks like YX is more concerned about Skybus flying from CMH than XE(ExpressJet) entering MCI, at least for now. MCI-CMH has ~ 170 ppd and will be a way to shuffle CRJs between MKE and MCI.

Again, my thoughts exactly. CMH-MCI is/was the 4th largest unserved route from Columbus. Include the connecting opportunities available from MCI and the very loyal following Midwest has been earning in KCMO, and I think Midwest should do well on the route. I have no doubt that the route was on Skybus' radar screen. However now, it will be Midwest that will receive the marketing incentives and landing fee waivers for starting the service. Congratulations and many thanks to Midwest/Midwest Connect.


User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5376 times:

A little off topic, but does anyone know where OO is getting the additional aircraft from? Sorry if it's already been discussed.

User currently offlineDanairbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5361 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 22):
does anyone know where OO is getting the additional aircraft from?

I think they are getting the the exIndy birds.


User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5238 times:

If you look at the MCI-CMH-MKE-CMH-MCI routing seems they will use one aircraft for this. However, if you look at the PIT-MCI and back, it appears the aircraft sits from 0800 to 1930. I'm guessing YX will announce another route soon using this aircraft.

[Edited 2007-02-08 00:03:13]

25 Flaps : Damn....There goes another airline I have to drop because of the CRJ. I am thankful though that I live in an area with plenty of choices. I feel for t
26 Knope2001 : Without a doubt true. I really do think they are doing some last-minute adjustments, possibly in reaction to ExpressJet. That plane that sits in MCI
27 Bluejackets : CMH just keeps knocking 'em off: SLC, LAX, B6, MCI. David Whitaker has really got the charm going. What's next: F9? SFO? LHR (kidding, for now)? Anoth
28 HPAEAA : well, sadly CMH lives in the shadows of the cities to the north (CLE) and South (CVG)... I like the airport, and the cities got a lot going for it bu
29 Eagle11 : I think going with the CRJs is a pretty safe business decision. Expanding at MCI has been a must for quite a while now. Plus, with the elimination of
30 Mke717spotter : CMH eh? Not really what I was expecting, but I am pleased to hear it. Looking forward to the next announcements.
31 Post contains images FlyCMH : I talked with a few of my colleagues over at Midwest this evening and they are definitely excited about the new/upgraded service. It's likely too ear
32 Bluejackets : I should know better than to question you. I guess I'm the one that's too excited! You mean 777, right? Just kidding... That's great! I didn't hear a
33 Mke717spotter : I also found this kind of puzzling, are they gonna keep adding the CRJ routes to the main route map under signature service?
34 Knope2001 : They are going to have to rework their maps, I suspect, and putting PIT and CMH on the mainline map is a temporary measure.
35 N917ME : I believe that they CRJ (SkyWEST) flights will be "marketed" as signature, mapped as signature and operated as Midwest Connect. It is more of a marke
36 AvConsultant : I think they will be the warmer ovens similar to the ones at a DoubleTree check-in counter. Basically it's a heated drawer. The 328 is a nicer produc
37 JBo : Which seems hokey to me. The computers, however, show the flight numbers as Connect flight numbers, so nothing odd there. I just think they goofed th
38 Skyexramper : But I don't think the APUs were ever overhauled as they should've been. We have only had 367SK for a little bit and already have it on life support a
39 AvConsultant : I remember when they were moved to MYR. You've got to be kidding me they were not moved to the desert!! Hell with the leasing company if they did not
40 Post contains images Flaps : Signature Service leaves the customer with certain expectations. I hope they they drop those designations on the CRJ routes quickly or they are going
41 N917ME : The Skywest FA's are going to busy. Full service with one FA. They will be BUSY!
42 Cubsrule : It's not that much worse than 2 f/as on a 717...
43 ERAUgrad02 : let's just wait and see how they look. the 328s are really nice. im assuming the seats in the crj will be close to on par with the rest of their prod
44 Knope2001 : I wonder if they will have indentical menu for Best Care Cuisine on the CRJ as they have on mainline, and will that include a hot choice.
45 Flaps : You can put all the service in the world on a CRJ but it makes no difference if you cant fit in the damn thing. There is absolutely no shoulder room.
46 Post contains images DeltaRules : Good to see that CMH will be upgraded. Not a big fan of the CRJ personally, but I always like to see new service. YX is one of the airlines I've wante
47 HPAEAA : it looks like the routing of the 752 is going to be DEN-CMH-ORD... sadly not round trip from any one market... good to see it though.. now if only AA
48 Steeler83 : Yeah, seriously... If that is just one dinky CRJ replacing the 717, that is a punch to the face of PIT and the PIT flyers. Two CRJ flights, perhaps,
49 TSRA : I think maybe originally MCI-PIT was going 2x day until XE's MCI announcements. OO will add 2 aircraft a month (except for 3 in July and 1 in October
50 Knope2001 : There are undoubtedly several big changes and additions coming, and that probably includes a second PIT trip with the CRJ. As things sit right now, th
51 Post contains links TSRA : Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 50): So with 2x CRJ's added per month, are they planned to get 2 more in May, or are these four it until June? Yes, 3 in Apri
52 Knope2001 : Oh DUH...of course. Thanks for the wakeup!
53 TSRA : No problem man!
54 Steeler83 : So it's one CRJ replacing one 717. I don't like that. "Oh yeah, PIT service does well. Let's cut capacity on it." That does not make sense in my opin
55 Knope2001 : MCI-PIT has not done very well and is regularly near the bottom of onboard loads. I suspect your impression that was doing well comes from Midwest/Mid
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