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New Pics Of 787 Parts: Boeing Presentation  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 21737 times:

http://cc.talkpoint.com/LEHM002/020607a_jw/pdf/Boeing.pdf

This is a presentation from Boeing's presentation at the Lehman conference today.

There are a lot of pics of production part including the first production section 41 (slide 38)!!! Great pics straight from Boeing. See slides 17 through 49.

[Edited 2007-02-08 15:37:58]


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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 21718 times:

Nice...................Thats looks f**kin slick!

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 21569 times:

No other new info and Boeing is still reiterating May 2008 first delivery.


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User currently offlineGRIVely From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 21551 times:

Very interesting presentation. Does anyone have a link to a similar presentation for Airbus?

Thanks,

GRIV


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21353 times:

Another example of Boeing being open and forthcoming with information. NExt update will probably be early March when Mike Bair gives a 787 program update.


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User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21295 times:

The item on page 16 is particularly noteworthy:

"Operating Economics ~2% better than originally predicted"

The B787 has already enjoyed unprecedented sales. Additional efficiency will make it even more attractive. This aircraft is setting the bar very, very high.



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User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21170 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
lot of pics of production part including the first production section 41 (slide 38

Excellent! This ends the debate - Section 41 is a single piece. thumbsup 



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21149 times:

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 6):
Excellent! This ends the debate - Section 41 is a single piece.

Yeah, I think Boeing in all the planning never said that sect. 41 was going to be two separate pieces and I don't know how people got that notion.



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User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21117 times:

On a humorous note...for those who participated in a now-deleted thread...it's startling to see the great lengths Boeing is going to in perpetuating this "mythical" airplane. At this rate, they may go so far as to actually build, fly, and deliver it to customers - all just to cover up the fact that it doesn't actually exist!  

[EDIT - turns out the thread is not deleted...see below!]

[Edited 2007-02-08 17:03:47]


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 957 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21084 times:

Anyone forward these along to the newbie who insisted the 787 was a "ghost plane?"

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21035 times:

Boy now I wish I could see this noow deleted thread and take down names, numbers and license plates!


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21020 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):

Yeah, I think Boeing in all the planning never said that sect. 41 was going to be two separate pieces and I don't know how people got that notion.

Because this photo shows it being a smaller section.

Also, on page 40, look at the Saab cargo door. Does that mean that all 787s will be fitted with a large door that will remain static (but available for later use) and then with a smaller inset cargo door for normal passenger use? Or am I misunderstanding what is going on in that photo?



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User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 20957 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 11):
Because this photo shows it being a smaller section

Yes, but when first released that photo was clearly identified as a test article and noting that the production item would be much longer. Too many folks look at the pictures and fail to read the stories...just as our girlfriends accuse us. smile 



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User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20853 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):
Boy now I wish I could see this noow deleted thread and take down names, numbers and license plates!

Hey...I would've sworn it was deleted, but here it is: Is The 787 A " Ghost plane"...?

Enjoy! biggrin 



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User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 651 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20746 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 5):
"Operating Economics ~2% better than originally predicted"

I wonder if that is with the extra weight that needs to be cut, once the weight is on target, could we expect an even better operating economy?

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 8):
deliver it to customers -

Yes and do not forget that on time, and nearly on budget.



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20729 times:

I´m waiting for the invitation to Everett for the Tupperware Party 2008.

*couldn´t resist, sorry*

Micke//  Wink



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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9944 posts, RR: 96
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20698 times:
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Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 6):
Excellent! This ends the debate - Section 41 is a single piece.

It seems pretty clear that 43, 44, 46 and 47 are the only 4 "full barrel" sections, excluding nose section and tail section.

Presumably these 4 equate to the 3 main sections of A350 fuselage that have been discussed.

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):

Fascinating and enjoyable presentation, NYC777.
Many thanks  thumbsup 

Regards


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20676 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 15):
I´m waiting for the invitation to Everett for the Tupperware Party 2008.

And when's Airbus'...ohhh that's right not until 2014 or is it 2015 or is it 2016. Maybe we'll be flying around in flying cars like the Jetsons by the time Airbus gets its act together. Maybe.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30415 posts, RR: 84
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20675 times:
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Quoting CM767 (Reply 14):
I wonder if that is with the extra weight that needs to be cut, once the weight is on target, could we expect an even better operating economy?

I would imagine Boeing would be predicting figures with her current OEW, since Boeing has consistently said the plane is exceeding her performance targets. So even 2% overweight, she's 2% better then expected.

That pesky Boeing...Always under-promising and over-delivering...

*couldn´t resist, sorry*  Wink


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20660 times:

My only wish is that people would learn how to make nice quality PDFs of their powerpoints. Other than that it was very interesting, from a geek perspective. From a new perspective not all that much to see..

The only thing that I found 'noteworthy' was the projected growth of margins by 2% over the next 2-3 years.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20587 times:

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 16):
Fascinating and enjoyable presentation, NYC777.

No problem!!! Big grin



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User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 20467 times:

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 13):
Hey...I would've sworn it was deleted, but here it is: Is The 787 A " Ghost plane"...?

Enjoy!

What is airbus feeding that guy? geez didnt really comment of the A350 version 99999 is up to now if we're lucky???  Wink

Thanks for the link NYC777 really interesting to read, cant wait to see the 787 in the sky and then prove all the A lovers wrong.



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User currently offlineHB88 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 814 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20324 times:

Quoting GRIVely (Reply 3):
Very interesting presentation. Does anyone have a link to a similar presentation for Airbus?

I'm sure there are similar corporate puff-pieces from Airbus floating around on the web  Smile google should bring something up.

Interesting, but nothing really all that new here. This felt very much like an analyst or investors presentation for a conference - relatively low on tech and high on happy messages. Actually, I hadn't checked where it was posted - the Lehman Brothers website from an industry analyst schmoozefest - all is explained!

Some of the market share data seemed to be out a little, but I guess some artistic license is allowed given the apparent differences in order booking criteria for A & B.

Seeing those huge autoclaves is very cool and kudos to Boeing, or rather Alenia, that they've figured out how to control the temperature, cure etc to get a spot-on cure. Without that, the mandrel/barrel technique is an expensive way of making a lot of composite shelters for the homeless.

The spar jigs looked interesting and I think they point to a length limitation & two (three?) piece spar - they must be putting splices in - definitely not ideal for weight but probably acceptable around the pylon. I think this means either Boeing can't achieve the required jig tolerances for a complete span of spar, they've found it too difficult to manipulate a complete spar, or the autoclaves are too short. Interesting.

Also, that underfloor beam looked pretty manky - I hope it was a test component. However, the composite Messier-Dowty gear brace was pretty nice. This, IMO, is going to be one of the real areas where in-service stressing will test the use of composites in major structures.

One thing the presentation really highlights is Boeings function as a systems integrator rather than a designer/manufacturer of aircraft. This, IMO, is the real step-change in relation to the 787.


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3186 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20237 times:

Quoting HB88 (Reply 22):
One thing the presentation really highlights is Boeings function as a systems integrator rather than a designer/manufacturer of aircraft. This, IMO, is the real step-change in relation to the 787.

Not sure I agree with this, but mostly on wording grounds. I believe most of the core design is still Boeing's. But a lot of the manufacturing is outsourced based on Boeing's designs. So I will agree they are moving from designer/manufacturer to designer/integrator.

It's just that as in any manufacturing scenario the designs occasionaly have to be modified for 'producability'.

Really the new model is smart on their part (IMHO). It limits capital outlay, spreads risk, and allows Boeing to push harder than someone assuming all the risk in house.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12283 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20214 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 17):
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 15):
I´m waiting for the invitation to Everett for the Tupperware Party 2008.

And when's Airbus'...ohhh that's right not until 2014 or is it 2015 or is it 2016.

Yes, so we should look forward to our invitations to the Airbus Shell Game 2014.



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25 Post contains images HB88 : You're right. I was typing too fast as usual. But at a detail level, I think the label systems integrator is pretty apt. The model isn't unique - we'
26 NYC777 : Well so far the suppiers in teh supply chain are working out well for Boeing the hiccups thus far notwithstanding. I have it from a reliable source th
27 Post contains images Osiris30 : I figured but wanted to get on that point before all hell broke loose Nope. And it's not even unique to Airbus/aviation. Lots of companies have gone
28 Post contains images Flysherwood : You are right! Boeing probably has a bigger market share than what was printed. I mean Airbus adds 17 days to its calendar year when reporting jets s
29 HB88 : No. It's actually slightly smaller than what was printed even taking into account the different ways of counting.
30 Rheinbote : Actually, this presentation suggests to me that EIS has been shifted to the right, to early/mid July 2008. Take a close look at page 49.
31 HB88 : Sorry, I missed that bit! Where does the 17 days come from? First I've heard of it and I work there.
32 NYC777 : Oh please you can't get that from a presentation with out any firm frame of reference. You're just starting another Boeing hate fest. McNerney said i
33 Post contains images HB88 : You are quite right. Mind you, 6 weeks is nothing - unless it's an Airbus 6 weeks, which are like dog weeks. You need to multiply by a *big* number t
34 Vivek0072 : Interesting, thanks for posting.
35 N328KF : This is a bunch of hooey. You can't rely on Powerpoint's sense of numerical precision.
36 NYC777 : Boy ther eare a few people on this forum who will be easting some serious crow when the 787 is delivered on time.
37 TeamAmerica : Could also be that the wings for the various models share a common structure between the root and the pylon.
38 Jahmike : I am a Boeing fan, but for them to have the first flt this year and first delivery early 08 would be amazing.
39 Osiris30 : Better practice your amazed look then.
40 Rheinbote : Sure, if you don't have other sources to back up the assertion, this may look like just another PPT glitch.
41 NYC777 : Quite right. There are people who are going to take a slide and point as proof that ther is something awry. It's a general slide show ing the timelin
42 N328KF : I don't get you. You rely upon one indication (which may or may not be a programmatical issue) that the program is delayed? Don't you think that Boei
43 Post contains images Dougloid : Dang...you beat me to the spankin'.
44 Post contains images Astuteman : As an "A lover", (well, according to the missus ) I take exception to that. I can't wait to see the 787 in service. I hope it meets its promises, and
45 Rheinbote : I guess any REAL A-fan should sincerely hope that B pulls off the stunt and stays on schedule. THIS Boeing achievement will be of pivotal importance
46 HB88 : Frankly, powerpoint is evil. But there is no specific law that says that the 787 can't be put under the a.net microscope in exactly the way that the
47 PanAmOldDC8 : Thanks for the heads up, fantastic airplane. Can't wait to see them flying. That was a very well put together presentation. Impressive
48 N328KF : There's nothing wrong with asking questions about the 787. But Powerpoint graphs are necessarily imprecise. Go create one yourself and you'll see wha
49 NYC777 : Well I believe Boeing hassaid that they themselves are being more of a systems integrator rather than a manufacturer. They give vision and guidnce to
50 Rheinbote : No, not at all. I would have taken this as a PPT glitch if I had no other sources to back up my assertion. That's what I meant.
51 BoomBoom : Isn't their a difference between delivery date and EIS? Won't it take the operator a couple of months after taking delivery to actually begin revenue
52 NYC777 : EIS is up to the customer. Obviously that date is driven by the delivery date but the airline, before introducing any new airplane into revenue servic
53 Post contains images Astuteman : Two people, one message... Regards
54 Post contains images HB88 : Actually no. Boeing will be couching *any* public announcement to give them the maximum amount of legal maneuvering space should this prove necessary
55 Post contains images KSUpilot : G-G-G-G-HOOOOOOOOSTTTTT! (This is in reference to an earlier thread where the great "787 Is A Ghost Plane Theory" was discussed) The 787 is going to b
56 Keesje : Very interesting Thanks for sharing!
57 HB88 : Yep. On that basis, there will be a fair gap between EIS of the A380 and when SIN take their first aircraft for their own route-proving. In any case,
58 Post contains images HB88 : I have to disagree - technically cool, but beautiful, definitely not. It has the basic, grunt, workmanlike look of the 767 to me. But opinions are op
59 Post contains images NYC777 : On that we agree my good man
60 Post contains links Rheinbote : http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/070207/boeing.html?.v=2&printer=1 "The 787 is on schedule for its rollout mid-summer (northern hemisphere), with first flight
61 DAYflyer : Wow, thanks for those pictures and presentation. Looks like the 787 program has really taken off.......
62 B2707SST : IIRC, Boeing has always said first delivery in May. The length of the period between delivery and EIS is up to the airlines (specifcially ANA). --B27
63 Post contains images SABE : Maybe these are stupid questions, but I'll ask them anyway Will the first 787 flight be KPAE-KPAE, or is there a chance that it would fly KPAE-KBFI or
64 Post contains images Osiris30 : My issue was more with the implied source of design in the latter part of the post. HB88 and I rarely come to blows despite being accused of being po
65 Post contains links Rheinbote : http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/290032_boeingearns26.html Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney, in a conference call to discuss third-quarter e
66 Ikramerica : That cargo door picture was confusing. It had windows, and I was wondering why a lower cargo door had windows. Now I see that some think it is a secti
67 Post contains images HB88 : I don't think they're windows. They look like systems access panels for conduits and the door control mechanism. If my memory is correct, I don't thi
68 Rheinbote : The 'windows' rather look like a place to mount flood-lights for illumination of the ramp area during loading/unloading.
69 Post contains links B2707SST : Probably confusion on his or the reporters' part, since other sources say May 2008 delivery. This makes more sense, because Boeing cannot control how
70 Areopagus : It won't prove anything about the A lovers, although it might quiet the B haters. Boeing did the first sections in-house, and transferred the technol
71 PolymerPlane : WTH are you talking about. You guys are really looking the world as you see fit, not the reality. You can argue all you want about the EIS date from
72 N328KF : Not to mention the big bold lettering above the chart in question on page 49 where it says "787 Development on Track." But I guess that's outside of
73 BoomBoom : I remember that for the next time you heap vitriolic abuse on anyone who criticize the A380.
74 Post contains links Rheinbote : So you got 4 sources for your interpretation, I get 166 sources for mine. http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...try+into+service%22+%22may+2008%22 B
75 NYC777 : Yeah and your sources say May 2008. What's the problem? Boeing presentation says May 2008. What's the problem? Jim McNerney says May 2008. What's the
76 N328KF : In Boeing's mind (and in the mind of most people), they're the same thing. Since we're talking about a published EIS of May 28, 2008, if they slip a
77 Post contains images Rheinbote : Well, if you don't know the difference between "delivery" and "entry into service", you haven't read this thread carefully.
78 Flysherwood : Here, Here!!! Are the ingredients of the Airbus Koolaid and the dunce pill the same?
79 Rheinbote : Thank you, N328KF.
80 Post contains images Ikramerica : Considering the punishment, I wish I had flamed him more. At least the punishment would have fit the crime. And he did warrant it... Last year at thi
81 NYC777 : This is sommething that people on the other side of the pnd don't seem to get. They can't simply say things when they know that it is untrue. Since t
82 Post contains images HB88 : Ah. But I don't do that simply because they heap vitriolic abuse on the A380. I do it because the posts I flame are, IMO, lame, poorly informed, fill
83 Post contains links B2707SST : " target=_blank>http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...08%22 Well, doing it your way, I get 17,500 hits: http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&r...+%22de
84 HB88 : I think over here we do appreciate that. But you need to remember the flipside to this is that US corporate statements are always going to be written
85 BoomBoom : Ah, but that contradicts what you said in #46.
86 NYC777 : You're quite welcome! Makes a bit more uncomfortable after WorldCom and Enron. The forward looking statements are required and proper disclosue are r
87 Ikramerica : This is not a PR statement though. This is an executive on a conference call to investors. You can't lie there, or try to hide the truth when asked.
88 Post contains images HB88 : No it doesn't. I wasn't necessarily talking about my own posts. I was implying what I thought should be the norm on a.net. You'll see in the lower qu
89 NYC777 : Well we'll know how it all turns out in May 2008 and if Boeing's stock goes up or down. In any case it is exciting to see a whole new airplane like t
90 Flysherwood : And this is exactly why Airbus finds itself in the situation it is with the A380! Are you actually going to defend Airbus for doing that? We had a co
91 HB88 : No, this is not why the A380 was delayed. The reason why the 380 wiring harness issues remained out of sight for so long is covered amply in many oth
92 Post contains images Thebry : Hilarious... so what's the name of the Tupperware knock-off products that were foisted on the world in the late 70's? I forget the name, but do remem
93 NYC777 : He might have been referring to Noel Fogeard's actions last March with his sale of EADS shares.
94 HB88 : Hmm, slightly different issue perhaps. In any case, although I dislike how it came across, I understand that there was nothing illegal in his share d
95 HB88 : IMO any comparisons between the 787 and 350 going forward will be as much about the industrialization of the program as about the specific technology
96 HB88 : I think so. Check old issues of FI.
97 Revelation : Hey, Rheinbote, perhaps you should package up your various sources including the PPT and share your hot scoop with some of the leading newspapers, le
98 Post contains images Glideslope : Job interview?
99 CO738 : well gee whiz the financial packet i got from Boeing was a little bit thicker than the 53 pages that came up here... why didn't they send me that woul
100 Post contains images DavestanKSAN : Dang, that looks cool. Pretty exciting. Dave
101 HighFlyer9790 : WOW that looks nice! I just cant wait for the first flight!
102 Post contains images AutoThrust : Great achievement of Boeing, cant wait to see it flying.They showed the world how to do things right and deserve the merit. Well done. But ONE thing
103 Post contains images ER757 : LMAO Good one Astuteman - got a big chuckle out of me. This was really un-called for, wasn't it? Why post flame-bait like this? Anyway, thanks for po
104 Osiris30 : They would be pre-measured I'm guessing to avoid that little issue.. which isn't to say it can't happen, but it *shouldn't* happen (but did with the
105 Stitch : Boeing's configuration control is excellent, as is Airbus'. Remember that the actual fuselage pieces of the A380 matched [except for part of the lowe
106 Post contains images RiddlePilot215 : Dear Boeing, QUIT TEASING ME WITH PICTURES! No human is EVER supposed to be this excited about an airplane coming out Sincerely, RiddlePilot215 Hones
107 Post contains images HB88 : So long as the moulding process on each barrel has been done properly, there shouldn't be any issue with the parts mating properly when delivered. As
108 InbarD : That's awesome. I can't wait too see some more parts of the 787 come through, and even more the complete thing, this will be one of the most successfu
109 Astuteman : They will indeed be "pre-measured", electronically, with "as-built" 3D CAD models being generated to verify both the fit-up, and just as importantly,
110 Cjpark : Anyone else notice that AA was not pictured as a Boeing Customer on page 11? More fuel for the AA buys the 350 conspiracy?
111 AA777223 : I sure did notice that too! I just don't see how the A350 would feed into AA's fleet plans. There were also many other carriers on there, who had not
112 NYC777 : During the presentation Scott Carson said that tthe airlines were a sampling of their customers not all of them and not those who ordered the 787 or w
113 Post contains links Rheinbote : You might be interested in this Boeing powerpoint presentation, contains a few interesting 787 barrel images as well. "Dimensional Management of Comp
114 PolymerPlane : Yup, and I remembered one of the Boeing's executive said that the parts that they started assembling were almost pefect match, and there's gonna be a
115 TeamAmerica : An interesting aside...this presentation, dated 2005, lists a bullet point: "Use the same software throughout the process to avoid misinterpretation
116 BoomBoom : It looks like whoever posted this (talkpoint.com?) took a paper printout of the PPT and scanned it using a low resolution. There's no secret to makin
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