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Delta Orders 30 CRJ900  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8558 times:

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...-30_WNAS0268&type=comktNews&rpc=44

Bombardier says Delta orders 30 CRJ900, worth US1.1billion. Delta also holds another 30 on options.

[Edited 2007-02-08 20:07:38]

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8544 times:

Was just about to post this myself, good to see that this order is going forward. Will be interesting to see where these'll turn, but I hope that at least half of them will be used as CR1/CR2 replacements.

User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8526 times:

Hmmm....wonder where those could be going? Is it a coincidence that this gets announced right after a judge blocks Comair from striking and allows mgt to force sub-standard wages on the pilots?


"Flying isn't inherently dangerous...but very unforgiving of carelessness, incapacity or neglect."
User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8530 times:

One thing I noticed in that article that is somewhat unrelated to the topic....they state that Bombardier is the "world's third-largest civil aircraft maker"...I thought they were surpassed by Embraer.

Either way this is great news for Bombardier and shows that the CRJ-900 is still in the fight. I may like the E-Jets, but it nice to see that the old T-Tails are still selling.  Smile


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8477 times:

Is this 30 on top of what they already had on order that Skywest has been taking? Will all of the ordered ones go to Skywest? How many did they previously have on order?

Thanks,
Lane



Good goes around!
User currently offlineCRJ900X From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8381 times:

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 4):
Is this 30 on top of what they already had on order that Skywest has been taking? Will all of the ordered ones go to Skywest? How many did they previously have on order?

This order is separate from the one placed by Skywest. I may be wrong, but I do not believe that Delta has publicly made an announcement on which regional affiliates will operate these 30 new CRJ900's.

According to the Bombardier website, Skywest has ordered 17 CRJ900's.http://www.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_1/pdf/CRJ_october_31_06.pdf

Cheers,

CRJ900X


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8366 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
but I hope that at least half of them will be used as CR1/CR2 replacements.

As do I. It will be nice to see these planes in DL colors.


And Happy Second Birthday to DAL767400ER and TinPusher007!


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8343 times:

DAL767400ER!

You been here 2 years and posted 3877 posts? I know your fingers are HURTING!!!



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8182 times:

I wish DL would equip these with PTVs the same way Air Canada does with their Embraers. That isn't going to happen though, right? The current CR9s don't have PTVs.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 8):
I wish DL would equip these with PTVs the same way Air Canada does with their Embraers. That isn't going to happen though, right? The current CR9s don't have PTVs.

No, they don't, and no, i don't thin they ever will, but I agree that they should. With some of the long-haul flights they fly with them, it is practically unbearable to be in that small of a space with no IFE. They do flights like SLC-YYZ that is quite a bit upwards of 4 hours.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8120 times:

Quoting CRJ900X (Reply 5):
This order is separate from the one placed by Skywest. I may be wrong, but I do not believe that Delta has publicly made an announcement on which regional affiliates will operate these 30 new CRJ900's.

This is the same order we were talking about in early January. It took til now to be confirmed by the bankruptcy court.

[Edited 2007-02-08 21:02:58]

User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8069 times:

haha...Can anyone say Freedom Air?...uh oh!!!
srry couldn't help it  Wink


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7756 times:

Cool, didn't even realise it's been 2 years already. Oh well, time is passing by rather fast.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):
DAL767400ER!

You been here 2 years and posted 3877 posts? I know your fingers are HURTING!!!

Not really, I have a higher post count on that "other site" that mustn't be named on here  Wink .

Quoting CRJ900X (Reply 5):
I may be wrong, but I do not believe that Delta has publicly made an announcement on which regional affiliates will operate these 30 new CRJ900's.

That's correct, nothing official yet.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 8):
I wish DL would equip these with PTVs the same way Air Canada does with their Embraers. That isn't going to happen though, right? The current CR9s don't have PTVs.

PTVs on any RJs operated by/for DL are likely never gonna happen, but at least the -900s have a First Class cabin.

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 11):
haha...Can anyone say Freedom Air?...uh oh!!!

Urgh, scary thought, just plain scary...


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7576 times:
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Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 12):
PTVs on any RJs operated by/for DL are likely never gonna happen, but at least the -900s have a First Class cabin.

Why not? If they're putting them on mainline and they're already certified on AC Jazz' CRJ705, why not put them in the CRJ900? Then they can match B6' E190...



Come, fly the prevailing winds with me
User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
Why not? If they're putting them on mainline and they're already certified on AC Jazz' CRJ705, why not put them in the CRJ900? Then they can match B6' E190...

That's a cost DL is not wanting to add. They're already beating down the cost of the Connection carriers and this would an unnessecary expense. The PVT are not going on the MD-88/90's.


User currently offlineEvilForce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7468 times:

Congrats to Bombardier.

However, the C series jets are NOWHERE as comfortable as the Embraers. I can easily fly on a E170/E190 for 2 hours in complete comfort. The C series really blow over an hour. Hopefully DL is only using them for very short flight hops.


User currently offlineDb373 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7402 times:

Blah! Why couldn't they spend that $1.1 billion acquiring new mainline jets? I know mainline planes are more expensive and all, but I really hate this push of using all regional jets on short-to-medium hall flights.


Keep Delta My Delta
User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7361 times:

Quoting Db373 (Reply 16):
Why couldn't they spend that $1.1 billion acquiring new mainline jets? I know mainline planes are more expensive and all, but I really hate this push of using all regional jets on short-to-medium hall flights.

I agree with you. But, I would expect Delta to place an order for new aircraft as soon as they exit Bankruptcy. Probably one of the first things will be a 100 seat aircraft for short haul flying. Will likely be the E-190 or 195.


User currently offlineDb373 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7330 times:

Quoting Okie73 (Reply 17):
Probably one of the first things will be a 100 seat aircraft for short haul flying. Will likely be the E-190 or 195.

Call me picky, but I don't like the E-190 or 195 either! Give me an MD-80 or a 717 over those any day!



Keep Delta My Delta
User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7229 times:

Quoting Db373 (Reply 18):
Call me picky, but I don't like the E-190 or 195 either! Give me an MD-80 or a 717 over those any day!

I agree, but there is really no other option in the 100 seat market. The 736 is too heavy and the 717 is not manufactured any more.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Quoting EvilForce (Reply 15):
However, the C series jets are NOWHERE as comfortable as the Embraers. I can easily fly on a E170/E190 for 2 hours in complete comfort. The C series really blow over an hour. Hopefully DL is only using them for very short flight hops.

Technically, the C-Series does not exist yet. The C-Series was planned to look something like the larger E-Jets. The CRJ Family is different.


User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

Quoting Okie73 (Reply 17):
I agree with you. But, I would expect Delta to place an order for new aircraft as soon as they exit Bankruptcy. Probably one of the first things will be a 100 seat aircraft for short haul flying. Will likely be the E-190 or 195.

...or maybe the new C-Series from Bombardier?


User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2230 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6871 times:

Good to hear the CRJ-900 got a sale from a legacy carrier. I wonder if AE will ever order them. However, I wish DL had gone with 717 a couple years ago instead. Maybe, just maybe, the line would still be open.

Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 3):
Either way this is great news for Bombardier and shows that the CRJ-900 is still in the fight. I may like the E-Jets, but it nice to see that the old T-Tails are still selling

It does seem like there have been more Embraer orders in the last few years. Nevertheless, I agree with you about the T-tailed aircraft. Good to hear more of them will be making their way to the skies. Numbers have decreased mightily since Boeing took over McDonnell Douglas.

Quoting Db373 (Reply 18):
Call me picky, but I don't like the E-190 or 195 either! Give me an MD-80 or a 717 over those any day!

I second that! But above all I'd prefer an MD-90.  smile 

Quoting Okie73 (Reply 19):
I agree, but there is really no other option in the 100 seat market. The 736 is too heavy and the 717 is not manufactured any more.

Too bad Boeing canned the 717. It's obvious the 736 is not going to sell. They surrendered the 100 seater market.

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 14):
The PTV are not going on the MD-88/90's.

Nope, but at least the MD-90's have the drop down LCD screens.



There's nothing quite like a tri-jet.
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

Looking forward to it...10 F seats on a CR9 with only 60 seats in Y seems like a pretty good chance at an upgrade, even for a lowly Silver like myself.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):

You been here 2 years and posted 3877 posts? I know your fingers are HURTING!!!

I've made over 1,000 posts on FlyerTalk in the past month and over 100 today alone. Now that's pain!


User currently offlineEagle11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

Congrats to Bombardier and Delta.

Does anyone know when these may be delivered? I'm thinking it should be relatively soon since Bombardier's backlog isn't really too big at the moment.

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 22):
Too bad Boeing canned the 717. It's obvious the 736 is not going to sell. They surrendered the 100 seater market.

I agree. I think they should have tried to stick around rather than simply surrendering the market to Bombardier and Embraer. Then again, I'm not a Boeing executive...



"The Eagle has landed"
25 FutureFO : The CR9's are all ready operated by OO for DL. SLC-STL-ATL. As well as a few other routes. The are really only under the 705 classification. However I
26 Post contains images Highflyer9790 : 1. Boeing 2. Airbus 3. Bombadier Did i miss something? i may be wrong
27 BoeingPride800 : Why would Delta order the CR9? shouldn't they be worrying about a MD80(and such) replacement? So these planes are going to be doing mainline service?
28 TrijetsRMissed : I don't think the MD-88's are going anywhere anytime soon. That would be a very large investment and would take a lot of time for the replacement to
29 United787 : Congrats to Bombardier and Delta. But, I have to ask, how is it that two airlines (DL and NW) currently in Chapter 11 are able to order so many new ai
30 ExpressJet_ERJ : Delta officially only operates the Md88 all of their other models have been converted to MD88s.
31 TrijetsRMissed : I know the MD-82's had the converted EFIS flightdeck. Were they re-engined as well? Do they now have the same MTOW and range as the true MD-88's? How
32 RICARIZA : Pfff, have to disagree with that.. the E-190-195 are far more comfortable and nicer than the MD-80 or 717.. love the EMBs... "Embraer currently has t
33 Easyfriday2000 : the PTVs on AC jazz cr705 are pretty nice. I think they have just under half of them actually installed but they are the same as on mainline. Also all
34 Post contains images FlightShadow : Good to hear! Hopefully some more of them come to OO, I rather enjoy seeing what CRJ9s OO currently has flying in and out of SLC Right. How did some p
35 Boeing7E7 : Were you paying attention when US Airways went Airbus while in BK????
36 Columba : My thoughts exactly the CRJ may not be the most interesting aircraft in the world but at least it is the only remaining T-Tail, rear engined aircraft
37 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Perhaps, but the CR9s are more fuel-efficient, and that's what counts for DL. Should BBD actually decide to ever make a decision about that plane fam
38 ERAUgrad02 : I think that since airlines fly these planes pretty far they should get XM/Sirius. That would do but for me i have my personal IFE (my laptop) works g
39 Glareskin : Did I miss something: Aircraft deliveries 2006 Boeing: 398 Airbus: 425
40 DeltaDAWG : Congrats to Bombardier. Disappointing for DL customers though! I was hoping for some E75/90 a/c instead. I personally cannot stand the CRJ's, they are
41 Bucky707 : The only difference between an 82 and an 88 is the flight deck.
42 Post contains images CirrusDriver : Ok, new guy here. In fact, I have 3873 less posts than DAL767400ER!!! I'm confused. Why would Delta order CRJ's? From the sounds of it they are orderi
43 Post contains images F16arm : Just saw the posting GO ComAir!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Man I hope we get those)
44 Bucky707 : Delta will lease them to whomever is awarded the flying. Owning the airplanes gives Delta a lot of control.
45 ERAUgrad02 : My brother who is an f/o on the E-170 with CHQ said that they are bidding to fly these. He parked beside one in ATL and was amazed by how long they we
46 Tangowhisky : Actually it is ordered by value ($$$$) in "civil" aircraft deliveries. We will see from financial reports who delivered the greatest value in 2006 fo
47 AznCSA4QF744ER : I agreed with you on that one. Where does the money come from for all these order? I don't see UA ordering an a/c when they were in BK all 3yrs of it
48 Bucky707 : In this case, Bombardier is providing the financing. So these airplanes not costing Delta any upfront money.
49 TrijetsRMissed : Not quite, although it is the most noticable to the eye. The MD-82 has JT8D-217 engines, the MD-88 has the 219's. The engine difference creates a ran
50 Okie73 : Yes, for early model MD-82s compared to 88s, there were some small differences. However, the upgraded engines became and option for later build 82s,
51 TrijetsRMissed : I know for a fact the tail cone was part of the conversion. Years ago I flew a DL MD-80 that had the older tail cone noticeably different from the ot
52 Post contains images STJ : XJ and 9E both bid to fly them now that NW allows them to fly for other carriers, I would suspect every regional bid for them. The million dollar que
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