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First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets  
User currently offlineIflyswa From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17744 times:

Here's something you won't see anywhere else...

Ship 368 is the first 737-300 to receive the Aviation Partners Boeing blended winglet mod. This will be the first of 90 of the newest 737-300s in the fleet to receive the mod. Take a look:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r191/skybronco07/FirstWingletInstalled002.jpg



Definetely a nice look for the -300!

iflyswa


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17726 times:

Excellent pics!!!!!!! This is gonna pose some spotting problems for our more novice collegues lol


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User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17718 times:

Are you sure this is the first one? I could've sworn I saw another 733 in PHX last week with the winglets. I'll admit I could be wrong as I was kind of sleepy eyed from having to catch an early morning flight that day, and I only glimpsed it for a few seconds as we were taxiing out, but I glanced out the window just in time to see a 300 with the winglets (flap fairings were pointed, not clipped, and they were not in the distinctive orange color).


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User currently offlineDhefty From United States of America, joined May 2005, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17600 times:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q3/nr_030710g.html

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3307 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17554 times:

Quoting Dhefty (Reply 3):
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q3/nr_030710g.html

See:

Quoting Iflyswa (Thread starter):
First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

 Wink



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently onlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17475 times:
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That is great! I hope other airlines get on the wagon and try this out on their 300's like UA.


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User currently offlineDhefty From United States of America, joined May 2005, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17461 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
See:

Oops! Now I see.

Saturday blindness. Thanks for the specs.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17444 times:

Winglets look great, but what were the airline thinking whan they chose that colour scheme?

User currently offlineFlyboyseven From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 905 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17454 times:

Doesnt Virgin express have 733s with winglets?


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User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17356 times:

Quoting Flyboyseven (Reply 8):
Doesnt Virgin express have 733s with winglets?

I think the original poster was only referring to WN 733s, not all 733s worldwide.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17346 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 7):
Winglets look great, but what were the airline thinking whan they chose that colour scheme?

It is much nicer than what they used to have,



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User currently offlineFlyboyseven From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 905 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17267 times:

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 9):
I think the original poster was only referring to WN 733s, not all 733s worldwide.

Hmm...I guess. Ahhh the title. Thank you.



As long as the number of take-offs equals the number of landings...you're doing fine.
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17190 times:

Looks good!

Can't wait till I see one through TUS sometime.


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17132 times:

How soon until its back in service? I wanna get a shot of it if I can...


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User currently offlineIflyswa From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16997 times:

Yes, as stated in the title, I am referring to the first classic winglet mod for the Southwest Airlines Co.

More photos: http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r191/skybronco07/

iflyswa

[Edited 2007-02-11 06:44:41]


Opinions expressed by "iflyswa" are not those of Southwest Airlines Officers, Directors, or Employees.
User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16914 times:

I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16894 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.

There are so many more obvious things, the -700 will still have the red canoes under the wing, and look at the registeration as usual, N2, N4 and N7 are -700's and N3 and N6 are -300's.

Alex



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User currently offlineCleared2Land4 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16855 times:

Is the United geting winglets too?


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User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16823 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 16):
There are so many more obvious things, the -700 will still have the red canoes under the wing, and look at the registeration as usual, N2, N4 and N7 are -700's and N3 and N6 are -300's.

Thanks. you are a southwest fan.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5700 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16807 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 18):
Thanks. you are a southwest fan.

Was it that obvious?! LMAO  Silly

Alex



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User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16763 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1):
This is gonna pose some spotting problems for our more novice collegues

I think your right!  Wink
WNs fleet of -300s and -700s is becoming almost completely uniformed. What with the plugged eyebrow windows and now winglets on the -300s, they look almost completely identical!

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16741 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.

Actually, the noise difference isn't that great.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 18):
Thanks. you are a southwest fan.

The orange/red canoes really give it away and the database pretty easily tells you the number sequences.



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User currently offlineLumus From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16624 times:

This may be obvious to some, but why do the yellow caps on the engines read 737-800? I thought the cowlings were a slightly different shape?

User currently offlineSJC4Me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16622 times:

So how long until someone makes a good FS9/FSX 733W model?  Smile


Unable.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16573 times:

Quoting Lumus (Reply 22):
This may be obvious to some, but why do the yellow caps on the engines read 737-800? I thought the cowlings were a slightly different shape?

The engine plugs look like they say "737-300" to me, but I can see where an "8" and a "3" might look indistinguishable from one another....


25 Airtraveler : Thanks so much for sharing, for us is an unusual "view" of the aircraft without the "skin". Can we know where are they doing this modifications? Than
26 Post contains images EGBJ : Thanks for the pics Very cool to see a pair of winglets boxed in a crate like that
27 Post contains images Silver1SWA : Well, if SAN is where you are lookin to catch it, don't get your hopes up any time soon!
28 San747 : Yeah, especially because I only go down to SAN twice a month, tops. It would be pure luck to catch it on one of those occasions...
29 KBFIspotter : What all is involved in this ACO? It looks like new panels are intalled in the outer wing, as well as the installation of the winglets. In those photo
30 Post contains links and images KFLLCFII : If you can't see the orange/red canoes, just look for the position of the pitot tubes on the front cockpit section. If they fall underneath the rearm
31 IAHFLYR : Also the 300 has a more level look from the side where the 700 with the higher main gear and tail sits nose low.
32 EI321 : Na, I prefer the old one!
33 OPNLguy : Mods are being done at AAR's facility at IND. Another aircraft followed N368SW in, and next week, a second mod line opens up and we'll then have two
34 CirrusDriver : **No real source**, just talk around the shop. UA will be replacing the 737 "soon". Atleast, that is the word amongst pilots here. So, no winglets fo
35 Post contains images BWI757 : With the Northwest DC-9's no doubt
36 Post contains images ASAFA : If you can't see the canoes how are you going to see the pitot tubes?! A good way to tell the difference (if you're not looking at the aircraft up cl
37 SABE : So, will all the 737s (no matter what model) in WN's fleet have winglets in the not too distant future?
38 Post contains images CAMB737 : This is great, it now looks like a 737-700!!!
39 OPNLguy : No, not all of them. The retrofit program only covers 90 of the 194 -300s, and none of the -500s.
40 SWACLE : More importantly, when will NW instale winglets on their -9's to increase range and extend their life to over 60 years??? Don/WN CLE
41 KFLLCFII : You mean to tell me that every single window you've ever looked out from within a terminal toward a WN aircraft at the gate allowed you to catch an u
42 Post contains images CirrusDriver : Or with FedExs retireing 727s!! (To those of you who wish to elaborate: I know that many of FedExs 727s are former UA frames. That is the point)
43 Whappeh : I think that would be cool has hell! They should look into the notion. :P
44 ERAUgrad02 : Easiest way. The wings are different. And tail. And engines have flatter bottoms because the -300 isnt as tall. Anyone can tell the difference.
45 Phxplanes : Is there a reason that the 700's have painted canoes and the 300's dont?
46 Atrude777 : So Ramp Agents and Ops Agent and F/A and all can tell the differnce between the -300 and -700. Thats pretty much the sole reason it is painted. Alex
47 RedTailDTW : That would be awesome! I'd love for NW to keep those DC-9's a little longer. BTW, sorry if im off topic, What percentage of NW planes still have the
48 RW717 : How can you tell the difference between the 300 and 500? Out of curiosity what is the difference in seating capacity?
49 F14D4ever : Thanks KFLLCFII, you've done a great public service. Now I'm a 733 / 73G spotter!
50 N1120A : The -500 is noticably shorter. 17 seats
51 FlyUSCG : That seems pretty ridiculous to me. I guess I can understand why those people might need to know the difference, but if they find out by looking at t
52 We're Nuts : For WN, their -500's have N5xxSW registrations, and they carry 122 passengers (15 fewer than the -300/700)
53 Graphic : Purely idle curiosity, but why is there a UA 733 in the APB hangar next to the WN 733?
54 LMP737 : Where were the pictures taken?
55 Post contains links and images OPNLguy : It's not APB's hangar--it's AAR's, and they do contract MX for for alot of folks... This AAR facility is in IND, ironically, part of UAL's former fac
56 Post contains images Atrude777 : Not really, to the untrained eye, a 737 is just that a 737. But if a 735 pulls up the ops agent needs to recognize that and figure out how to rebook
57 FlyUSCG : I THINK your looking into it WAY more than you should. Now apparently the case is that one model has the fairings painted while the other doesn't, bu
58 HighFlyer9790 : Wow! looks great on the -300. so SWA is keeping them for a while?
59 Atrude777 : I have been told specifically by SWA workers that the reason those -700 have them painted red was due to help identify the difference between the air
60 OPNLguy : That is correct. No, I'm afraid you're the one doing that. Like you'd even believe them? Let it go... ...and neither am I. Question asked. Question a
61 Post contains images Silver1SWA : The classics and the NG have such obvious differences, that once you see the overall picture, you can tell them apart instantly without needing to lo
62 Post contains images FlyUSCG : Well alright then. Thats all I was looking for (seeing as you work for them that is). It just didn't quite make sense to me to paint the fairings on
63 LASOctoberB6 : or if he is that far away, just look at the wingspan, its a whole lot longer on the -700... number of windows behind the emergency exit...
64 WNCrew : As a FA I do use little things like the red flap jackscrew covers to tell the difference. When I'm running through the terminal and can't see much out
65 Atrude777 : And even those are colored tool, ie, NM is Yellow, Shamu is Black, State colors are white or Red, or Blue..If it is a -700 as noted... Another way to
66 Post contains images Jogales : It should be noted that when WN first started getting 73G's, they didn't have winglets. Though there defiantly are other differences, the red flaptrac
67 Concorde1518 : Just out of curiosity, are all the winglets in "Southwest.com" yet, or if not, are there plans to get them all to say that?
68 Post contains images Silver1SWA : Oh? So, according to your numbers, how much more expensive is red paint over grey paint? All "canoes" are painted regardless of color. Exactly. We ar
69 ERAUgrad02 : Has the aircraft rolled out of the hanger yet? I cant wait to see this plane flying.
70 OPNLguy : Still in the barn at AAR@ IND....
71 ERAUgrad02 : How many planes are they doing at a time?
72 OPNLguy : Starting today, they have two mod lines runiing...
73 ERAUgrad02 : ok thx plz someone take pix when it rolls out. I hope other carriers in the states put a little more life in their 737 classics as well.
74 Chris133 : Well the first 737-300w for WN goes went into revenue service today. It is on the west coast today and i think it overnights in PHX
75 OPNLguy : Indeed it does... (Everything that follows subject to change...) 289 SAN-SMF 2643 SMF-SAN 2775 SAN-OAK 907 OAK-LAX 907 LAX-PHX For Friday, 2/23... 25
76 Silver1SWA : Can you believe it?!? SAN got some of the first action! haha I got some pics this morning. They are in the queue.
77 Post contains images OPNLguy : Hey, it was your "turn", doncha know...
78 Swadispatcher : I just released it going SAN-OAK.. As an aside, I was kinda surprised to see N270 out west today too.
79 Silver1SWA : Damn, you guys must have swapped it again. As of last night, it wasn't supposed to return to SAN until 8pm. If I had known I would have waited til th
80 Swadispatcher : Flow for tomorrow shows it PHX back to TX and then out to LAX back to PHX tomorrow night again.
81 N1120A : Well, that is almost half their fleet.
82 Post contains images Atrude777 : No chance of it flying Flight 1919 STL-MDW? Who is flying Flight 1919 tomorrow? Alex
83 Swadispatcher : It shows 653, but that may change.
84 Atrude777 : Thanks man! Alex
85 FutureSDPDcop : What's flying 1590, SAN-OAK for Friday? Is it another full flight as usual?
86 LASOctoberB6 : when will it b in LAS?
87 Iflyswa : N368SW originated this morning (23 February) in PHX, destination and downline for the day: LAX PHX OKC STL DTW STL BWI. iflyswa
88 AirframeAS : Did you obtain permission to post these pics from WN corporate? I'd be very, very careful with these pics, expecially when an aircraft is in a hangar
89 Post contains links and images JetMech : G'day people , I don't know if it has been mentioned previously, but can anyone spot the error on the APB website? http://www.aviationpartnersboeing.c
90 Iflyswa : Someone up at AAR was snapping the shots. It was no secret that we're putting winglets on some of our classics, so I'm really not giving up some huge
91 Post contains images ChicagoFlyer : Looks like the official a.net photos have been posted.
92 ONTFlyer : Anyone know 368's routing for Sat. 2/24?
93 JetMech : G'day Iflyswa, It was actually one of the diagrams that I noticed. It has a somewhat obvious error! Regards, JetMech
94 Graphic : Somehow it just doesn't look as elegant as the -700s.
95 AirTranTUS : Would it be the "Retrofit Winglet Installation" diagram where it says 737-800, but the A/C shown is a -700?
96 Steeler83 : I actually have a question regarding the regs of a WN 737. Does anybody know which aircraft type flight 1531 PHL-PIT was on January 1st of last year?
97 Post contains links and images AirTranTUS : According to this site: http://www.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummary...c/dstat/OntimeSummaryDepatures.xml the aircraft was N608SW on 1/1/2006, a 733. View Lar
98 Post contains images Steeler83 : THANK YOU!!! That's what I thought; I just wasn't sure So now my lists of AC experience looks like this... DC9, DC9 (1992 on US) 734, 757 (2000 on US
99 JetMech : It's actually to do with one of the diagrams explaining how the winglets work. Regards, JetMech
100 Iflyswa : I see...one of the animations is a little too simplified! iflyswa
101 JetMech : Erm...yes, sort of. The head on diagram shows both of the wingtip vortices spinning in the same direction. The vortice emanating from the aircraft's
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