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Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape  
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25196 posts, RR: 48
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Mokulele's goExpress! fleet taking shape
The two airlines plan to finalize a code-sharing agreement by tomorrow


Kona-based Mokulele Airlines and Mesa Air Group Inc. plan to finalize a code-share agreement tomorrow that will set the stage for goExpress! to begin interisland flights in April.

The new service will extend Mesa's reach into the islands by allowing go! passengers and others to travel between neighbor islands and, eventually, to some of the state's smaller airports.

Mokulele Chief Executive William Boyer said yesterday the first of the carrier's newly acquired Cessna Grand Caravan 208-B aircraft, now painted with the goExpress! logo and colors, flew into Hawaii Sunday.

Boyer said goExpress! will debut with $19 one-way fares for its 12 daily flights. Initial service will encompass round trips between Kona and Kahului, Kahului and Hana, Hana and Honolulu, and Honolulu and Kapalua.

"Teaming up ... gives us more credibility and gives us a lot of feeds to a lot of the islands we haven't been to before except on charters," Boyer said.

Jonathan Ornstein, chairman and chief executive of Mesa, noted that the deal is a role reversal of sorts for his company.

Mesa and Mokulele, founded in 1998, signed a memorandum of understanding in September to launch the goExpress! brand. Under the deal, Boyer is replacing the five Piper Chieftains in Mokulele's fleet with turbine-engine Grand Caravans.


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User currently offlineMPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Very interesting I am very curious as to where this goes.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25196 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

Another shot in the great Hawaii air battle!  box 


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User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

I so don't understand this......why in the world would anyone do this?


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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Hmmm, an express carrier for a carrier whose aircraft are generally regarded as an express aircraft itself. Interesting. For comparison, if this was the situation at ,say, DL, it would be Delta Connection Express.

Anyway, I hope this brings in more pax for go! I wouldn't mind traveling on a Caravan; in fact, I would book it purposely.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5902 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2546 times:
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Now...all Go! has to do is fly between the Island and the mainland!

User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

What cities will these fly? Are there small airports where jets cant get in and out of in hawaii?


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 6):
Are there small airports where jets cant get in and out of in hawaii?

A few.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHHN

http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMU

http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHUP

http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMK

http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHNY


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

One more player to battle Pacific Wings & Island Air for the smaller Hawaiian airports ...


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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place, i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines.......doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place, i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines.......doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?

 sarcastic 

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
no engines

What do you call that thing in the front - with the big three bladed thing attached to it? Engine perhaps?

Many, many places in Alaska have air service with "such a plane" and they're perfectly safe aircraft.

They'll be just as safe in Hawaii.

Or Kansas

Or Winnepeg

Or Panama . . . . . .


User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
Boyer said goExpress! will debut with $19 one-way fares for its 12 daily flights. Initial service will encompass round trips between Kona and Kahului, Kahului and Hana, Hana and Honolulu, and Honolulu and Kapalua.

There's our first clue in the Press Release...Kapalua and Hana make sense to me. Maybe Princeville will follow?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMK

I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHNY

Ditto for Lanai...


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3657 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
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Quoting Rookinla (Reply 11):
I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

MKK hasn't been a HA station for a couple of years. Plus, jets into MKK are performance limited due to a couple of reasons. One is the short runways and the other being the mountains at the end of the runways. Any time there were Kona winds, no jets flew into MKK. Any rain, no jets as well.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5658 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
"Teaming up ... gives us more credibility and gives us a lot of feeds to a lot of the islands we haven't been to before except on charters," Boyer said.

How does teaming up with MESA of all airlines give you more credibility?



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place

 Big grin Big grin Big grin

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines

 Silly  Silly  Silly

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


 banghead 



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 11):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMK

I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHNY

Ditto for Lanai...

I misread: I thought he said airports where jets CAN'T get in to . . . .

Thanks for that . . .


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Interesting now this makes CRJ's look like "mainline". What a pathetic company.


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User currently offlineEagle11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

go! can't really be getting that much feed from any of these flights, can they?

Needless to say, the success of this new express carrier really won't do much to help go! survive. They need to get their CR7 operations in order quickly.



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Does GO! still have piss poor loads? If so, why bring larger aircraft into the market?

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25196 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 18):
Does GO! still have piss poor loads? If so, why bring larger aircraft into the market?

According to the last Mesa conference call, loads and earnings are withing expectations. The airline plans to add capacity via additional aircraft by the summer, along with launching their first intra-island route bypassing HNL by the summer aswell.

Cant be all that bad.



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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3270 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

I wonder if the it's the same lone Cessna Caravan that YV used in 1989-90 when the aircraft was used exclusively between PHX and PRC.


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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3404 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Quoting Eagle11 (Reply 17):
. They need to get their CR7 operations in order quickly.

Am I missing something?



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25196 posts, RR: 48
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 20):
I wonder if the it's the same lone Cessna Caravan that YV used in 1989-90 when the aircraft was used exclusively between PHX and PRC.

According to the article, its one of four "new" Caravan's to be delivered over the next few months.



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1658 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

So, I am confused. Does this have to do with this go!


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Is Hawaii GoExpress a competitor carrier or will is it going to be like the regional carrier for go!



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 23):
Is Hawaii GoExpress a competitor carrier or will is it going to be like the regional carrier for go!

go!Express will be a regional carrier for go.

Jets are possible into MKK and LNY. Hawaiian has served both with the DC-9-51 and 717, and Aloha has served LNY with the 737.

Plans for larger jets for Go (90 seats, so not CR7) have been delayed: http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/26/business/story02.html


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