UARAMPMAN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1849 times:
All thoe the 747-200 are still very air worthy.It just cost more to operate them with three crew members in the flight deck as well as the cost of keeping them running.They will be sold to companys that wish to buy them.United will not use them for scrap parts
Sdate747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1817 times:
That is not true. UA is not moving towards an all Airbus fleet. The 777 will serve UA well for many years to come. and the 747-400's are not leaving anytime soon either. Sabena is a different story, UA is a real RED BLOODED american airline.
Timobear From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
Just a quick note, (or question) Tarantine - I was wondering where you got your false information about UAL converting to 100% Airbus ops. Just curious.
Also, UAL does NOT own their 742's, but rather they lease them. United is ending their lease early in order to save money. They are even paying a penalty for doing so, but in the long run they will save money.
The (7) 742's will be returned to the managment company for them to do with the a/c whatever they wish.
Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
For some reason I remember reading (over this past summer) that United had sold 2 of its 742s to Northwest who then converted them to friegters. How could they do this if they had a lease? Just curious... Also the only way in all possibilities that UA would ever get an a/c from the 340 (and I don't mean Saab) family is if they acquire the 330s from US Air (if the merger goes through.) But whether or not that will happen is another story which has already been discussed in the past.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
There are not many 747-200's in United's fleet. There never were. The largest number was 9. The 742's came
from other operators and to keep costs down and to
streamline its fleet, the 742's are being phased out.
UA has plenty of 777's in its fleet to replace them.
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1678 times:
Bill Harms in general very exact and updated website still shows a handful of 744s on order for United though somewhere else I heard they cancelled some orders last year. Don´t know the truth.
The 742´s now retired are all ex Qantas aircraft from the mid 70´s. So they are old enough to be retired from a Quality airline´s fleet. Also their number is limited as someone said. Its only logical that United replaces them with newer 747-400s and on less important routes with smaller 777s.
United only ever had two 747-222Bs in their ownership. These two were wfu last year and are currently under Freighter-conversion for Northwest.
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1675 times:
United had a total of 51 Boeing 747-400s on order, from the original order placed in 1988 if my memory serves me correctly (that's when they placed the largest order on earth -> or at the time it was. 90 B 757s, 23 B767-300ERs, 135 B 737 300/500 models, and at the time 35 B 747-400s). During the early 90s, the number of 747-400s swelled to 51, only to have 7 orders converted to a handful of 777s (Asian crisis opened up additional 777 slots).
I do see United getting more 747-400s, but I think it's waiting for Boeing to get more done w/ the 747x / 500X or whatever they are calling this new programme.