IAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 42133 times:
Was the plane taking off or landing? Which airline owned the aircraft?
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Now, if it is VKO and Germanwings and a flight to Berlin, then this could be flight 4U8991 VKO-TXL leaving 15h45 LT which is 14H45 CET. Radio news just basically confirms this with the exception of "A310" which cannot be true. No pax on board, which, if it is really 4U8991 is not that likely, unfortunately.
27 QatarA340: Germanwings doesn't have A310's! They operate only narrowbody jets.
28 Pelican: Yep Germanwings denies it was their aircraft. And since there were no pax onboard we don't need to look for schedulded flights. pelican
29 Gman94: Sky News just reported that it was not A310 involved but a much smaller aircraft, no specific's given though.
30 SAS-A321: I doubt that the picture in the link to the Danish newspaper is from Moscow! It seems like all news stations is changing to a smaller jet now.
31 Magyarorszag: IHT too says that. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...rope/EU-GEN-Russia-Plane-Crash.php
33 OA260: Sounds like it was a lucky escape!!! But all of the News websites are reporting conflicting information. I guess it will be a few hours before the rea
34 EI321: From Sky News ........But at this moment it looks like the aircraft was NOT an A310 and NOT German wings. ........info still sketchy[Edited 2007-02-13
35 TommyBP251b: I saw the foto! At first I thought it would be A320 family aircraft. But If you look closer to the right wheel of the aircraft it seems to have four
36 Norcal773: CNN now claims it was a Bombadier Lear Jet and not the A310.
37 DALCE: very strange!! Let's hope that at least the message about no casualties is right!
38 QatarA340: CNN reports its a Canadian-made Bombarier lear jet and not a wide-body jet as reported earlier. How could they confuse the two. There is a HUGE size d
39 VivaGunners: Let's hope it's nothing too serious then...
40 Bwest: BBC world is reporting "an aircraft thought to be a small business jet"...
41 Norcal773: This is according to the Russian Aviation Authority.
42 LH526: It says ARKIVFOTO! Not footage of the actual crash I think!
43 CARST: German news-channel N-TV says it was a "Challenger 60", airport is closed because overturned aircraft is burning, but everyone survived... Let's see w
44 Oldeuropean: That's because of all the silly different statements from Russian officals. I'm waiting for: "A Germanwings Ford Trimotor collided with the Air Force
45 TommyBP251b: Doesnt have the German Airforce a Challenger 60? One Question! What is the difference between a Challenger 60 and 600? Regards Tom
46 Columba: Definitely a A310 on that picture. Is it a real picture from the accident ?
47 HBDAN: ÌÈ1233 KAVMINVODYAVIA VNUKOVO MINERALNYE VODY cancelled 14:55 13.02 - - D 0 taken from http://www.vnukovo.ru/eng/for-passen...ndex.wbp?time-table.di
48 EI321: The Luftwaffe have (or at least had) several 604s, not sure about 60s.
49 Sketty222: An aircraft thought to be a small business jet has crashed at Moscow's Vnukovo airport, Russian officials say. The plane, which was reported to be car
50 LH526: As I said above, the caption reads "Arkivfoto" ... so not actual footage! It's said the plane flipped around in snow.
51 CARST: The picture is not from the accident... it was a Challenger 60. The information about the A310 is from older news.
52 EI321: That looks like an archive photo, there no snow on the ground.
53 LH526: I just image the families of the Germanwings passengers reading in the news that the flight apparently crashed ... giving them the shock, the biggest
54 Oldeuropean: Yes. that's why they write: "(Arkivfoto: AFP)" Axel
55 OA260: Al Jazeera reports:: http://english.aljazeera.net/News Moscow airport says crashed plane was not Airbus but small aircraft with three crew. More soon
56 BuyantUkhaa: Apparently the jet belonged to Ford Aero. http://www.aif.ru/newsfeed?news=6541 (in Russian only) A Challenger-600, not an A310. Edit: an engine appare
57 HBDAN: Last take off before accident had to be this one (Germanwings, to HAM). 4U7993 GERMANWINGS VNUKOVO HAMBURG departed 15:50 13.02 - 16:31 13.02 B 107
58 HBDAN: Russia says small aircraft, not Airbus crashed MOSCOW (Reuters) - A small executive jet, not an Airbus A310, crashed at Moscow's Vnukovo airport on Tu
59 OlegShv: http://www.gazeta.ru/news/lastnews/2007/02/13/n_1035275.shtml This Russian source says it's a small business jet - Challenger 800. Crashed onto aircra
60 Chris7217: As T-Online (www.t-online.de) reports it's actually not a A310 but a private business jet type "Challenger".
61 BlueFlyer: FWIW, the BBC now says (or seems to be saying, not so clear), the plane took off, immediately requested an emergency landing and crashed (can't tell w
62 BuyantUkhaa: Latest news says Challenger-850 (is there a new a.net rule? I could only edit my post once!)
63 KL808: How can somebody mistake a widebody A310 with a small corporate jet? Anyways, its good that the crew survived. Drew
64 HAWK21M: Any Update. A Challenger 600 with 3 members.Was it a Maintenance Positioning flight. regds MEL
65 Clydenairways: Can somebody change the thread title as it's now not correct...
68 Oly720man: Russian news sites (Izvestia) saying it's a challenger from the company Jet 2000 http://izvestia.com/news/news126728/ (in russian) Which probably mean
69 AnnInFL: N168K....Challenger That is the information I pulled from another site. Also it was posted on a corporate flight attendant site.
70 Express1: The latest info from the BBC news 24, it is a Challenger jet with 3 pax onboard,and the plane crashed and ended upside down,the 3 pax walked away un h
71 OlegShv: It says that it's built in 2006 - basically a new plane.
72 Berlinspotter: N168K can't be it : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...SQL.asp?verified=1&NNumbertxt=168K
74 Bwest: Well, the price for best mistake goes to the Belgian newspaper "De Standaard", which announces on its RSS feed: "Vliegtuig zonder bemanning stort neer
75 Express1: That looks to be as N186CX not N168CK
76 Express1: Now iv'e hurd it all, how pathetic!!!! dave
77 Berlinspotter: N168CK seems to be correct, plane was built back in 1996: http://www.planespotters.net/Product.../Canadair/CRJ-100-Series/7099.html
78 BlatantEcho: I would love to see all threads on this website time delayed 15 minutes so that we wouldn't have frantic posters trying to breathlessly quote idiotic
79 OlegShv: Hmm, the paintjob on the aircraft mentioned on the company's website is quite different. http://www.jet2000.ru/manag/section12/catalog19.html
80 Airfoilsguy: I wish journalists would check their facts before they spew wrong information to the whole world. That is probably why it crashed
81 AnnInFL: Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: Moscow Plane Crash -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Th
82 SandroZRH: Can't believe that, as ignorant as it gets?
83 RedChili: Actually, it was a Cessna 154M from the Austrian navy which crashed with a DC-747-XWB from the Vatican flag carrier "Holy Sightsee."
84 Airfoilsguy: Just wait, soon some moron from one of the networks will probably say that another space shuttle crashed.
85 Philb: Totally incorrect and speculative reporting is the price we pay for rolling news
86 WYG737LVR: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/eu...pe/02/13/plane.crash.ap/index.html Thank goodness that all have survived. The media is the media, have to scoop
87 Boeing744: Once my local news station in Victoria reported that the A380 had 3 decks, just before showing a video of it, very clearly showing the 2 decks.
88 ReverseThrust: And while the press can get confused wth aircraft types.... Schoenfeld's 3 leter code is SXF not SFX Reverse
89 TommyBP251b: Thx a lot I noticed it already, but somehow I could not change it. Let's call this a minor incident okay?
90 WINGS: Both the A380 and B747 have three decks. Don't forget about the cargo deck. Regards, Wings
91 Electech6299: Yes, I agree. Can the OP still do that or is this a job for the mods?
93 Smashme33: Because corporate media's job is to keep you confused, so you'll never have a real picture of anything that happens in the world. No matter what type
94 Stirling: Unless it was one of those very early-build A320s for Indian Airlines...which came with a four-wheel bogey for operations on rough airfields. This co
95 RIXrat: And don't forget that the Moscow-based journos didn't come by the type of plane by sheer chance. They were given that information, albeit wrongly, by
96 Swissy: I know the media should take more care before announcing stories like that and yes we should maybe start slowing down with spreading what we hear....
97 Viscount724: It's basically a 1996-built CRJ-100. Bombardier has been referring to the corporate version of the CRJ-100/200 as the Challenger 850 since 2005. Equiv
98 MCOflyer: I hope the crew is ok. I think the media should know what type of a/c it is before they say squat. MCOflyer
99 AnnInFL: Any word on the nationality of the crew?
100 A340Spotter: For what it's worth, this plane was delivered to and flown for the Carnival Cruise line. Previously registered N305CC, N405CC before becoming N168CK.
101 OPNLguy: To be honest with you, it was my first thought as well, along with CL-601 crash in Dec. 2004 that killed Dick Ebersol's son in Colorado... An issue i
103 ANother: In today's Tribune de Geneve (English pages) http://www.tdg.ch/tghome/english_corner/last_news.html TAG jet catches fire at Moscow airport A Canadair
104 RootsAir: wouldn't surprise me ! I've read in the poress about a Boeing 320 and the A340 picture with comment underneath stating its a jumbo jet, so don't be s
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