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What Is Largest AA Station Outside US?  
User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10147 times:

I was trying to locate some information regarding AA international ops and wondering what is their largest destination outside the US, including the daily/weekly total of all flights originating in US?

By flight frequency/daily arrivals and departures and seat volume? I am not focused on yeild or perfromance but rather volume.

LHR?
CUN?
YYZ?
MEX?

Others?

Thx for any info.

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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10137 times:

Probably LHR. Hands down.


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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10092 times:

can SJU be considered outside the US?

if so, doesn't AA have a hub there?



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 2):

if so, doesn't AA have a hub there?

They do. It would be the largest base then.


User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10091 times:
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It has to be LHR.
Well I count 14 flights for American from LHR a day.
Correct em if i'm wrong.

kev.



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User currently offlineNikonDFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10071 times:

Quoting CayMan (Thread starter):
By flight frequency/daily arrivals and departures and seat volume?

YYZ has the most flights, AA/AE combined.

LHR has the most seats, all 777's.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10070 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 3):
They do. It would be the largest base then.

Well actually it is American Eagle....sorry.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10026 times:
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Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 2):
can SJU be considered outside the US?

if so, doesn't AA have a hub there?

It is outside of the lower 48 though it is technically part of the USA



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9961 times:

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 4):
Well I count 14 flights for American from LHR a day.

#136 LAX-LHR
#090 ORD-LHR
#086 ORD-LHR
#066 ORD-LHR
#046 ORD-LHR
#098 ORD-LHR
#056 MIA-LHR
#156 BOS-LHR
#108 BOS-LHR
#142 JFK-LHR
#100 JFK-LHR
#122 JFK-LHR
#104 JFK-LHR
#132 JFK-LHR
#116 JFK-LHR

Starting May 07' Seasonal #134 LAX-LHR.



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User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9670 times:

Seems like YYZ might have most frequencies but LHR more seats as they are all 777s.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9575 times:

Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 2):
can SJU be considered outside the US?

if so, doesn't AA have a hub there?

SJU is a US Territory and is a domestic flight.



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9502 times:

What about SDQ? AA/AE have a nice presence there... Does not compare to SJU but it's up there



AA / AE Service:

BOS : 3x Weekly Flights : 752
MIA : 33x Weekly Flights: 752 & AB6 Mix
SJU: 35x Weekly Flights: ATR-72, AB6 & 752 Mix
SXM: 7x Weekly Flights: ATR-72
JFK: 21x Weekly Flights: AB6



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User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9352 times:

YYZ sems to have it hands down on frequency

LAX YYZ 1x daily
ORD YYZ 6x daily
MIA YYZ 3x daily
DFW YYZ 3x daily
JFK YYZ 3x daily
LGA YYZ 8x daily
BO YYZ 4x daily

That's 28x daily flights into YYZ including AA and AE. I may have left a city out.

The number of seats into YYZ daily on AA must be close to LHR, but LHR probably still beats it given all 777s and so many of them.


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9263 times:

Here are the stats for the week of 20 July 2007, at the peak of the summer schedule season:

London

Total seats/week: 27,440
Total frequencies/week: 112
Average seats/departure: 245 (*assumes reconfigured 777s with FS configuration)
Including:
BOS - 14 777s/week, 3430 seats/week
JFK - 41 777s/week, 10045 seats/week
LAX - 14 777s/week, 3430 seats/week
MIA - 8 777s/week, 1960 seats/week
ORD - 35 777s/week, 8575 seats/week

Toronto

Total seats/week: 18,116
Total frequencies/week: 200
Average seats/departure: ~91
Including:
BOS - 35 ER3s/week, 1295 seats/week
DFW - 21 738s/week, 2982 seats/week
JFK - 21 ER3s/week, 777 seats/week
LAX - 7 738s/week, 994 seats/week
LGA - 7 738s/7 M80s/14 ERDs/28 ER3s/week, 3626 seats/week
MIA - 21 738s/week, 2982 seats/week
ORD - 39 M80s/week, 5460 seats/week

So, as others have already said, Toronto is definitely the winner on frequency but Heathrow blows just about every other foreign station away in terms of capacity -- afterall, the average number of seats per flight at Heathrow is almost three times that of Toronto!


User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9102 times:

Excellent, thanks for the info! Would I also be correct in assuming that CUN comes 3rd, or some other Mexican destination?

User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9076 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 10):
SJU is a US Territory and is a domestic flight.

Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth.


User currently offlineFlick70 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9009 times:

Quoting Vega (Reply 15):
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 10):
SJU is a US Territory and is a domestic flight.

Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth.

Go to a bank and change a $5 US. If you get back 5 $1 US, you are...well...you get the idea.  Smile Currency tells all.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2933 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8927 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
BOS - 14 777s/week, 3430 seats/week



Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
MIA - 8 777s/week, 1960 seats/week

Commavia, is BOS going 14x weekly instead of 13x weekly? And MIA maintains the extra Sat. flight?


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8428 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8883 times:
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LHR will 17 777 daily this summer, by grequency seats and every other measure this has to be the niggest AA international station.

User currently offlineBistro1200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8851 times:

Outside of the United States?

Gotta be Miami! That's the nice thing about southern Florida, it's close to the states.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8847 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 17):
Commavia, is BOS going 14x weekly instead of 13x weekly? And MIA maintains the extra Sat. flight?

Yes, BOS-LHR always goes double-daily in the summer, and MIA always retains the Sat-only 777.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 18):
LHR will 17 777 daily this summer, by grequency seats and every other measure this has to be the niggest AA international station.

16 flights per day - 2x BOS, 2x LAX, 1x MIA, 5x ORD, and 6x JFK.

AA is, IINM, the fourth largest airline at LHR after BA, bmi and Lufthansa.


User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8832 times:

Quoting Flick70 (Reply 16):
Go to a bank and change a $5 US. If you get back 5 $1 US, you are...well...you get the idea. Currency tells all.

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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8775 times:

While AA's presence at YYZ is impressive (in terms of frequency), AA has actually been stagnant at YYZ since the early 80's in terms of growth. The current schedule is 15 mainline (738/M80) + AE. In 1981, AA had 14 daily YYZ (6 D10/8 722) so seat capacity has dropped despite the boom in air travel.

AA incidently is the longest serving carrier to YYZ on a continuing basis. Uninterupted flights and skeds since 1939. Longer than TCA/AC.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8751 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 20):
AA is, IINM, the fourth largest airline at LHR after BA, bmi and Lufthansa.

I think you forget VS



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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8743 times:

Quoting Flick70 (Reply 16):
Go to a bank and change a $5 US. If you get back 5 $1 US, you are...well...you get the idea. Currency tells all.

There are several countries that use the US dollar as their currency but are most definitely not part of the US as Puerto Rico is, i.e. Ecuador. Currency does not tell all.



Where are all of my respected members going?
25 Commavia : I could be wrong, but I believe that AA is actually larger at Heathrow than Virgin.
26 BoeingFever777 : They already 2x daily... AA156 BOS 9:00 AM LHR 8:30 PM 777 6h30m AA108 BOS 7:10 PM LHR 6:35 AM +1 777 6h25m
27 SevenHeavy : Virgin currently have 21 daily flights from LHR, rising to 23 in the summer. 5 are on 386 seat B744 (13,510 seats/week), 4 on 240 seat A343(6720 seat
28 MAH4546 : Not really. Ecuador uses the US dollar, as well as Cambodia, El Salvador and East Timor. Panama and the Bahamas print their own money, but it is 1:1
29 Jetdeltamsy : While it is considered an "over water" flight requiring the positive bag match like international flights (HNL as well), SJU is considered a domestic
30 Post contains images N587NK : SJU is most definately considered a domestic flight Although you can take advantage of the duty free shops on flights coming int the US [Edited 2007-0
31 UAL777UK : Yep, without doubt its LHR.
32 Mia : What about CCS? CCS has to be pretty big they get a ton of flights, MIA DFW JFK SJU ?
33 SeattleFlyer : Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought by definition a hub would be an airport/city where said airline funnels a large a amount of traffic through
34 CayMan : In relative terms to some of the other airports mentioned CCS really isn't that major. 4x MIA, 1x DFW, 1x JFK and 1x SJU, 7 daily flights typically a
35 Bqnco : SDQ to BOS on a 777 on Fri/Sat I believe.. Ive seen it and been on it. I dont know if its a seasolnal thing though..
36 Post contains links N62NA : Take a look at this fantastic post from a few months ago: http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ead.main/3127505/?searchid=3127505
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