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American Eagle Adds 2nd ORD-PNS Flight  
User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

American Airline's regional affiliate, American Eagle, is adding a second non-stop daily flight from Pensacola to Chicago beginning April 10, 2007. The airline will fly the round trip with a 44-seat Embraer ERJ-140 jet, the same jet currently used on the Pensacola to Chicago route, through O'Hare International Airport.

Schedule As Of April 10th 2007.

AA4317 ORD 11:25am PNS 1:30pm ERD Daily
AA4335 PNS 1:55pm ORD 4:15pm ERD Daily

AA4471 ORD 1:00pm PNS 3:10pm ERD Daily
AA4472 PNS 3:40pm ORD 6:00pm ERD Daily

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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

wow good for PNS, this is their's and the panhandles only real non stop link to the midwest after NW pulled MSP-PNS before they went into bankruptcy and DL pulled CVG (again). I wonder if NW will restart MSP-PNS in the future? I think NW also had seasonal weekend service to DTW as well. Good for AA as well, they seem to have done real well at PNS, would be nice to see a MIA flight started too.

User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 1):
this is their's and the panhandles only real non stop link to the midwes

AA will begin flying MOB-ORD starting April 10th also.

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 1):
DL pulled CVG (again).

I've noticed. Seems they can never make there mind up about this route.

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 1):
would be nice to see a MIA flight started too.

I agree. If they can ever find a aircraft for the route.

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 1):
I wonder if NW will restart MSP-PNS in the future?

Maybe?


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Gosh...and people complain about flying SJC-LAX on an AE JungleJet....I could only imagine what people are going to say about this on flyertalk... spin 


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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4925 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

Those flights aren't exactly well spaced (I guess thats because of the situation at ORD)


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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):
I could only imagine what people are going to say about this on flyertalk... spin

I really don't think there will be many complaints. It sure beats having to connect in a "hub" city in which it takes more then 4 hours to get to ORD, verses flying nonstop. More expensive to fly "direct" though.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):
I could only imagine what people are going to say about this on flyertalk...

I think the flight is only about a couple hours from PNS-ORD, so not really anything lonnger than any other RJ flights these days. Personally, I would rather be on an ERJ than a CRJ for a flight of that duration. Actually I will be flying down to PNS this weekend via DFW to see the folks over in Orange Beach, AL, can't wait! Both legs are on the ERJ (CID-DFW/DFW-PNS)


User currently offlineSouthSky From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

I've never made the drive from PNS to Bama's gulf coast, how's that drive? It's about 1 1/3 hrs from MOB and an extra hour from GPT.

User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Thread starter):
Schedule As Of April 10th 2007.

AA4317 ORD 11:25am PNS 1:30pm ERD Daily
AA4335 PNS 1:55pm ORD 4:15pm ERD Daily

AA4471 ORD 1:00pm PNS 3:10pm ERD Daily
AA4472 PNS 3:40pm ORD 6:00pm ERD Daily

Why are these times so close to each other...........



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6638 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

The timing is a bit odd. When I first saw the second flight on AA.com, I thought there must have been an error, but I guess not.

I'm not surprised to see AA go to a 2nd flight. The O+D demand between PNS and Chicago is enough to fill two 44 seat planes...not to mention any connecting traffic. AA has a real advantage over DL because they can fill their ORD-PNS flights with mostly higher-yielding O+D traffic, while DL flying PNS-CVG (in the past) was relying mostly on lower-yielding connecting traffic. I won't hold my breath that DL will bring PNS-CVG back, but it would be nice to have it back at least for the summer surge to relieve the often crowded PNS-ATL flights.

I don't see NW bringing MSP-PNS back anytime soon. I'd just be pleased to see some larger equipment on the PNS-MEM runs.


User currently offlineMIAUA777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 1):
would be nice to see a MIA flight started too

Wasnt eagle going to start this route this year using an ATR?


User currently offlineUnitedMSY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

Dont expect to see ORD-GPT, as much as I would like to see it. MOB produces some rather expensive passengers through their airport, attracting all this business traffic, and they just replaced all their jetways with new ones, and are renovating the already modern terminal they have. GPT continues to sit there in the dust with those contractors, this construction is taking way too long and it is a bad image on an airport to look like a 3rd world country for more than a year  Sad

User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
I'd just be pleased to see some larger equipment on the PNS-MEM runs.

Your not the ONLY one!


User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
The timing is a bit odd. When I first saw the second flight on AA.com, I thought there must have been an error, but I guess not.

I'm not surprised to see AA go to a 2nd flight. The O+D demand between PNS and Chicago is enough to fill two 44 seat planes...not to mention any connecting traffic. AA has a real advantage over DL because they can fill their ORD-PNS flights with mostly higher-yielding O+D traffic, while DL flying PNS-CVG (in the past) was relying mostly on lower-yielding connecting traffic. I won't hold my breath that DL will bring PNS-CVG back, but it would be nice to have it back at least for the summer surge to relieve the often crowded PNS-ATL flights.

I don't see NW bringing MSP-PNS back anytime soon. I'd just be pleased to see some larger equipment on the PNS-MEM runs.

I just don't see any early morining flights which, the Military loves so forget that. Also, It doesn' t seem to match up with AA's afternoon pushes?



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User currently offlineJmhLUV2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Good to see AA add another flight to ORD.....As for the DL PNS-CVG, from my experience in working alongside DL operations for a little over a year in PNS, I worked the PNS DL ramp under contract for awhile and I saw the CVG service come and go many times, when I first started on the DL ramp in August 05' Delta had a slew and I mean a bunch of terminators at night, including...CVG,TPA, FLL,MCO, JFK and for a brief while 2 88's. Then in December of 05' flights were cut back dramatically to only 1 terminator an 88 at night. The following spring things picked back up and CVG returned. I havnt checked the DL website but my guess is that CVG will come back to PNS for the summer.
As far as Airlink 9E service PNS-MSP returning, I certainly hope for the benefit of the flying public and those who I once worked with under contract for PNS Northwest Airlink that if the route ever returnes that a larger aircraft is used.
The CRJ easily has the range to do PNS-MSP, not fully loaded! You add on 44 passengers, a 50 seater was hardly ever used, and fuel and it can quickly become a nightmare in a half....I cannot tell you how many times I would have to bump people off the PNS-MSP flight because of wait restrictions...i.e. weather in route, the need for more fuel etc.
The flight sold out all the time, problem was you have a 44 seat flight booked to 49 and you are wait restricted to only 26 pax and the fun really begins, those days were crazy. If the route comes back use an A319 or 9 already...that of course in a 9E station will never happen. But we can hope and wonder.
In other PNS news...US is looking to possibly begin direct PNS-DCA service, PNS is competing against three other cities. The city of Pensacola is also working to land this new service, we shall see.

JMH-Pensacola, Florida!


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 5):
It sure beats having to connect in a "hub" city in which it takes more then 4 hours to get to ORD, verses flying nonstop.

Or you can always drive to MSY  Wink

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 6):
I think the flight is only about a couple hours from PNS-ORD

2h15m

Quoting UnitedMSY (Reply 11):
GPT continues to sit there in the dust with those contractors, this construction is taking way too long and it is a bad image on an airport to look like a 3rd world country for more than a year

GPT is entirely too close to MSY to gain all that much attention.



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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
Or you can always drive to MSY

No THANKS! MSY's to far and a dump. (So I've heard) Not worth the gas nor having to pay for parking.

Quoting JmhLUV2fly (Reply 14):
In other PNS news...


-Staring April 17th FL is adding another daily flight, which brings the number is nonstops flights to ATL to 5 Daily.
-Staring May 1st DL is adding CRJ-900 service to ATL. DL is also bringing in the first scheduled 737-800 flight (Comes Tuesdays overnights and leaves on Wednesday, This flight replaces the 757 evening flight on Tuesdays and the morning flight on Wednesdays)
-Staring April 3rd CO is flying IAH-PNS with CRJs and ERJs.


User currently offlineMSYguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

Quoting SouthSky (Reply 7):
I've never made the drive from PNS to Bama's gulf coast, how's that drive? It's about 1 1/3 hrs from MOB and an extra hour from GPT.

I haven't done it in awhile, but it's definitely under an hour -- well under an hour to get from PNS to Perdido and closer to an hour to get from there to the western part of Gulf Shores. The distance is minimal, but there's all that traffic on the beach highway.

Quoting JmhLUV2fly (Reply 14):
In other PNS news...US is looking to possibly begin direct PNS-DCA service, PNS is competing against three other cities. T

What are the other three cities? Those DCA slots sure are coveted.

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 16):
No THANKS! MSY's to far and a dump. (So I've heard) Not worth the gas nor having to pay for parking.

Ouch. Too far, absolutely. MOB's a stretch; PNS is beyond a stretch. A dump? That ain't so. Besides, you might get to fly on a mainline for a change  Wink


User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting MSYguy (Reply 17):
What are the other three cities? Those DCA slots sure are coveted.

DCA-LIT (New Route)
DCA-PNS (New Route)
DCA-MKE (Additional Flight)
DCA-MDW (Additional Flight)
DCA-ATL (Additional Flight)

DCA Apps: DL/LIT; US/PNS; YX/MKE; FL/ATL; TZ/MDW (by MAH4546 Jan 31 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineMSYguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

These 3:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
DCA-LIT (New Route)
DCA-PNS (New Route)
DCA-MKE (Additional Flight)

seem more worthwhile than these:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 18):
DCA-MDW (Additional Flight)
DCA-ATL (Additional Flight)

Surely there are beaucoup flights from the Chicago and Atlanta markets to DCA already on DL, AA, and US. I know there are other considerations.


User currently offlineAAgent From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 560 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Thread starter):
Schedule As Of April 10th 2007.

AA4317 ORD 11:25am PNS 1:30pm ERD Daily
AA4335 PNS 1:55pm ORD 4:15pm ERD Daily

AA4471 ORD 1:00pm PNS 3:10pm ERD Daily
AA4472 PNS 3:40pm ORD 6:00pm ERD Daily



Quoting B757capt (Reply 8):
Why are these times so close to each other...........

American Eagle prefers to turn a flight in 30 minutes or less at outstations...preferably 25 minutes.

Best Regards,
AAgent



War Eagle!
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
GPT is entirely too close to MSY to gain all that much attention

Absolutely. GPT will always come in a distant second to MSY in terms of air service. Some things never change. And that's not a knock on GPT...just reality.

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 16):
No THANKS! MSY's to far and a dump. (So I've heard) Not worth the gas nor having to pay for parking.

Well, that is a long drive, but people do it everyday...you'd be surprised by how many.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting SouthSky (Reply 7):
I've never made the drive from PNS to Bama's gulf coast, how's that drive?

its a pretty easy drive, takes about 45 minutes out to Orange Beach, talking with people here PNS is definitely the prefered airport for the area (AL beaches) because its proximity is much closer than to MOB

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
I'd just be pleased to see some larger equipment on the PNS-MEM runs.

no doubt!! those CRJs have always been full when I have flown that route, would be nice to see some new CR9's or Embraers on the route when they start coming in. On a side note, I have always wondered why nearby VPS has always been an NWA mainline station while PNS has been airlink??


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6638 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 22):
On a side note, I have always wondered why nearby VPS has always been an NWA mainline station while PNS has been airlink??

I think a lot of it has to do with competition. For many years, NW was the only carrier offering mainline at VPS. Even today, other than NW only DL offers mainline and its only like 2xMD88's. With little competition, NW has been able to establish a strong customer base at VPS. PNS is a different story with more carriers and a lot more competition.


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