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2 Critically Injured @ FLL After Plane Tire Blows  
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3311 posts, RR: 30
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11317 times:

Two critically injured after plane tire blows up at Lauderdale airport

FORT LAUDERDALE – Two airplane maintenance workers were critically injured Tuesday morning when an aircraft tire they were working on blew up at the international airport.

The two men were rushed to Broward General Medical Center for treatment. Their injuries were described as very serious. The victims were not immediately identified, but Greg Meyer, airport spokesman, said both were veteran employees at for Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport. A third man on the maintenance crew was not injured.

Broward Sheriff's Office spokesman Mike Jachles said the accident occurred around 10 a.m. on the Jetway and involved a tire change. The tire was not attached to an aircraft when it erupted, he said.

Cause of the blown tire was not immediately known, but is under investigation, Jachles said.

"I don't recall the last time something like this happened," the airport's Meyer said.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...449.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


Condolences to the men and the families.


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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2032 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11293 times:

This same type of thing happened at TOL a couple of years ago. Killed one of the airport maintenance workers since the tire was for a jetway. Sad day at the airport none the less.

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11272 times:

GA planes use a split rim...I wonder if airliners do too?

Handling a split rim that's off the axle with an inflated tire on it (truck, tractor, plane) scares the bejeesus out of me...



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User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11191 times:

Yes, heavy jets have a split room too. Fuse plugs are supposed to protect against dangerous tire explosions, but this doesn't sound like it was a factor.

This serves as a good reminder for proper wheel/tire assy handling. I hope those guys in FLL make it.


User currently onlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5128 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11146 times:

Wow. I always felt uncomfortable when maintenance did tire changes on planes. I always wondered if something like that could happen. I send my deepest best wishes for those hurt, and wish for a quick recovery.


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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11145 times:
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I wonder what airline it was involved... if it is Terminal 1, Gate 2, I'd think Southwest, Continental, Northwest or jetBlue?

Best for a speedy recovery...

JBLU


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5369 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11077 times:

Although the newspaper article says they were working on an aircraft tire, I'm thinking that this probably was a jetway tire or a tire on an ARFF vehicle or some such. Dept of Aviation employees are usually the guys who fix airport facilities, not airplanes. Given that they say that it happened "on the jetway" and who was involved...I'm betting the reporter got it wrong. I guess we'll see in the follow-up story.

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3311 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11057 times:

Update:

They were later identified as Kevin Scott, 52, of Hollywood, a 20-year Broward County Aviation department employee, who sustained multiple lower extremity fractures; and Richard Hernandez, 49, a 19-year employee, who suffered suffered arm and shoulder injuries.

The third man on the maintenance crew, Jeffrey Jugis, 47, of Hallandale Beach, an 11-year veteran declined EMS transport to the hospital, but later went on his own to get checked out, the Broward Sheriff's Office said.

At the time of the incident, said BSO spokesman Mike Jachles said, there were no aircraft at the passenger boarding bridge. There was no disruption to any passengers or aircraft.

Jachles said the accident occurred around 10 a.m. on the Jetway at Terminal 1, Gate 2 and involved a tire change. The 225-pound tire was not attached to an aircraft when it erupted, he said, soaring 80 feet into the air before slamming into a wall.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...449.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 5):
I wonder what airline it was involved... if it is Terminal 1, Gate 2, I'd think Southwest, Continental, Northwest or jetBlue?

Doesn't say, though, whether it was B2 or C2:



If it's B, it could be AeroMexico, Frontier, Jetblue, or Southwest. If it's C, it could be Continental or JetBlue.

More than likely, based on the positions of both "Gate 2"s, it's going to be either Continental or Southwest.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3311 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10974 times:

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 6):
Although the newspaper article says they were working on an aircraft tire, I'm thinking that this probably was a jetway tire

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't jetway tires actually taken from aircraft inventories? If so, the reporter wouldn't be incorrect in this case...but (s)he could have been a little clearer in the reporting.

Either way, it's a moot point. No matter what it is, or where it was from, we still have two fine gentlemen with potentially life-threatening injuries because of it.



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5369 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10934 times:

Okay, I did some research with the better paper in the area.

It WAS a jetway tire, as I suspected in my post above, not an airplane tire. Some reporters just don't bother to understand what they are reporting when they report it or update it.

Here's what the Miami Herald says:

"BSO said the accident happened at 9:51 a.m. on Jetway C2, a Continental jetway.

The three men -- all of them longtime airport employees -- were working on a wheel for the jetway that connects the terminal to the aircraft, said Greg Meyer, an airport spokesman.

''This is a standard procedure,'' he said. ''They were doing routine work on the expandable piece that connects the airport to the plane. Somehow a tire exploded.'' "


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16688744.htm


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10863 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 8):
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't jetway tires actually taken from aircraft inventories? If so, the reporter wouldn't be incorrect in this case...but (s)he could have been a little clearer in the reporting.

I remember this discussion before in civ/av. I think it depends on the airport...some airports' jetways use aircraft tires that are worn beyond acceptable aircraft usage limits (but still have plenty of life left in them for jetway usage), while others use special dedicated jetway tires.



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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1073 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10827 times:

i always thought that jetway tires were way less pressurized.


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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10524 times:
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Quoting Macc (Reply 11):
i always thought that jetway tires were way less pressurized.

For that matter, don't you depressurize them before moving/handling them (due to the split rims)?

I know I have read several posts on aircraft tire changing, one that's one of the major things mentioned, including using the air in the tire to inflate the jack you use to jack the airplane, jetway, or whatnot. The air's there, it's under pressure, and you're gonna release it anyway ...

I think some Jetways do use retired aircraft tires (usually 737 tires) but even if not, the tires used are similar enough.

No matter how you slice it, they're similarly big, heavy, and dangerous.

The article quoted above stated the tire flew EIGHTY FEET after striking the men, before impacting on the airport terminal wall, so it must have been some kind of violent event.

- litz


User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10153 times:

Well...a reporter not getting the facts straight when reporting on aviation? Thats a first........ Wink

User currently offlineTlfd29 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9353 times:

Could someone explain what a split rim is? I've never heard of that before. Thanks!

User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9194 times:

I know that NWA has Gates C8 and C9 and C7. CO has gates at C1, 2 3, 5. And JetBlue was using C4 and 6. That was last friday when I was coming home with a cruise tour group.

chuck


User currently offlineMd94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9194 times:

I guess aircraft split rims are the same as on semi trucks and farm implements, if not then please correct me.

Split rim tires use a split metal ring to hold the wheel together. The metal rings are known to "explode" off the tire if something is not quite right due to the high pressure. These tires are typically handled in large metal "cages" to contain in possible explosion.



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9149 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
Two critically injured after plane tire blows up at Lauderdale airport

Really sad incident at FLL !  frown   frown 


User currently offlineBaron52ta From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8342 times:

Quoting Tlfd29 (Reply 14):
Could someone explain what a split rim is? I've never heard of that before.

A split rim is as the name say a rim that is cut into parts, in some cases it is disc with two rings which are joined by bolts and nut other are two dish shaped parts which are bolted back to back. Either of these types allow for a deeper flange on the tyre as they are put either side of the tyre and bolted together hence the name split rim.

Hope that helped
david766


User currently offlineFLLspoter From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7695 times:

I was there when it happened
It was a SW 737-700
It had winglets



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User currently offlineJetset777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6519 times:

speaking of jetway tires, I noticed the tires on all the jetways at CAE for DL look extremely under inflated. I am a ramper there but I never took the time to look at jetway tires at other airports to compare. Is this normal? I realize they probably shouldn't be under the same pressure as aircraft or car tires, but should they look nearly half flat?


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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1073 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

Quoting Jetset777 (Reply 20):
speaking of jetway tires, I noticed the tires on all the jetways at CAE for DL look extremely under inflated.

that was my impression on all airports I have been. So I was wondering that such a tire would explode...



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5796 times:

Quoting FLLspoter (Reply 19):
It was a SW 737-700

Air Namibia???
At FLL?

Quoting FLLspoter (Reply 19):
It had winglets

 confused 


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11583 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 12):
The article quoted above stated the tire flew EIGHTY FEET after striking the men, before impacting on the airport terminal wall, so it must have been some kind of violent event.

I wouldn't take that as gospel. I have no doubt that the event was quite violent, but I don't know how someone could tell just how high the tire went short of having an 80' measuring stick appropriately placed to measure it.



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User currently offlineTF39 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

I wonder if they were removing the tire. I know that when I removed tires off airplanes, you ALWAYS completely deflate them before removing in case there is a leak in between the rims that is being sealed while the wheel is still on the axle. A 100 PSI (or more) might not seem like much but in a big tire, it's deadly. And it's hard telling by just looking at a tire if it's deflated or not, especially if there's alot of weight on it.

25 BravoGolf : Radial bridges, those that pivot only, use aircraft tires that cannot be used for aircraft and are stamped in the sidewall as such. They are inflated
26 Post contains images Baron52ta : I know he used the wrong designate but I think you will find he meant South West Airlines
27 FLLspoter : Sorry i used the wrong code I do that too often I meant WN And my bad it was a 737-300 With winglets must be new to have winglets
28 Post contains images KELPkid : Maybe the ASR (Airport Surveillance Radar) got a primary return on it? Don't flame me here, 'tis a joke, but it might be plausible...
29 Cadet57 : No it wasnt. It was a jetway The 737-300 is out of production and there is only one 737-300 with winglets. Chances are it was a -700... That said, 13
30 Litz : Actually, my interpretation was that most of the flight was horizontal - ie: a low-level parabolic flight into the terminal wall, rather than some ki
31 Post contains images FLLspoter : hey man try the fact that i had they day off
32 Cadet57 : Fair nuff. Still doesnt explain the fact that what you "saw" diddnt actually happen. As it wasnt a WN 737 as I pointed out.
33 WDBRR : You are absolutely correct. I was there last Saturday and went on a "tour" of the concourse while killing time waiting for my flight back to EWR. Bum
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