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User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

What is the protocol when two (2) hub airports are closed? For example, if CLE and EWR are closed, would CO route everyone through IAH? Or, will they just delay flights until the hub re-opens?

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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting ArcrftLvr (Thread starter):
What is the protocol when two (2) hub airports are closed? For example, if CLE and EWR are closed, would CO route everyone through IAH?

You do the best you can and pray for the best. It certainly happens -- surely there must have been times that ATL and CVG have both gone down or on ground stop simoultaneously for Delta, or O'Hare and DEN for United, and I definitely know from personal experience that AA has had days when ORD was on ATC ground stop or gate holds and DFW had massive weather delays.

It happens, and the airlines just try and get as many people, planes and cargo to their destination as possible.

It's a mess, though!


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

How about the superstorm of 93... PIT, PHL, and BOS were closed for US, as was DCA. Four big bases shut down. Weren't ORD and IAD closed for UA as well? That would also affect AA, given that ORD and BOS were already mentioned...


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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3105 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Really depends on the airline. When DL closed DFW, they moved lots of the traffic to SLC and ATL. But when they closed their PDX Asian gateway, they pretty much abandoned the Far East.

User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
Really depends on the airline. When DL closed DFW, they moved lots of the traffic to SLC and ATL. But when they closed their PDX Asian gateway, they pretty much abandoned the Far East.

Actually, I meant closed due to wx, not permanently closed. Sorry for the confusion.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 4):
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
Really depends on the airline. When DL closed DFW, they moved lots of the traffic to SLC and ATL. But when they closed their PDX Asian gateway, they pretty much abandoned the Far East.

Actually, I meant closed due to wx, not permanently closed. Sorry for the confusion.

I thought that as well, but then I read the first post and found that it involved weather-related situations; not just typical functions of the airlines themselves



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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3294 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Theres a finite number of seats in the hubs that are open. The seats will be filled up, and everyone else will wait.

User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

There isnt much of a set protocal, px will get booked on flights where ever seats are, which typically well send them through other avaible hubs. When the other hubs are closed or saturated, random cities become connecting points.
eg. ORD-DFW with a connection in XNA.
In some cases, revenue management will show flights full when they have 20+ seats avail. This gives the airport some room to accomidate stranded px or reshuffle between flights on a local level.



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User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

I can tell you this: When LGA, EWR or JFK close which is way too often a lot of times; surprise, surprise we get the diversions at BWI.


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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 2):
How about the superstorm of 93... PIT, PHL, and BOS were closed for US, as was DCA. Four big bases shut down.

That was the first and only time since the new terminal opened that PIT was ever shut down completely. Although with the ice and snow last night it was damn close to closing for a second time.


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