DiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 782 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
There's a thread right now about some oddball CO services ex-MSY next week.
We all know that hubs are meant to catch traffic from all over the place and redistribute it to all over the place.
But doesn't there come a point when there's so much O/D traffic between two non-hub cities that an airline could make more money flying a non-stop and overflying the hub?
I suppose AA would qualify with their JFK transcons, but are there examples of such flights from smaller markets?
ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1956 times:
Sure. From CMH you can fly to any of the three NYC area airports on a variety of airlines. I believe Delta flies direct to more than one destination in Florida, and the last time I checked, they also offered direct service to BDL. I'm sure there are other examples.
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BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2755 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1932 times:
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Thread starter): But doesn't there come a point when there's so much O/D traffic between two non-hub cities that an airline could make more money flying a non-stop and overflying the hub?
AA:
SJC-AUS which does quite well. Hopefully SEA-AUS will perform.
SFO-BOS; SFO-HNL; LAX-EWR; LAX-IAD; LAX-MCO; LAX-DEN; LAX-SFO; LAX-AUS; LAX-SAT....do you want them all listed? We'd be here for awhile...
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1917 times:
MPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 2): AA:
SJC-AUS which does quite well. Hopefully SEA-AUS will perform.
SFO-BOS; SFO-HNL; LAX-EWR; LAX-IAD; LAX-MCO; LAX-DEN; LAX-SFO; LAX-AUS; LAX-SAT....do you want them all listed? We'd be here for awhile...
isn't LAX one of there hubs? also I am pretty sure that American like most airlines uses the SFO-HNL as a stoping point so one could argue that the route needs the extra lift from the flights that connect. I think what he is asking is about flights were airlines don't have connecting traffic, I think SFO is on the fence but I think it could go either way.
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PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
Well, technically ALL of ExpressJet's upcoming independent services are non-hub flights...I mean BFL-SAN? I'm doing cartwheels that it BY-PASSES a "hub" airport!!
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MPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1805 times:
Quoting DIA77 (Reply 6): Technically, LAX isn't an AA hub (UA has more departures than AA). AA started their larger LAX ops after their acquisition of Reno Air.
I don't understand I have always thought it was a hub. Just to point out UA has more opps at ORD than AA but it is still a hub for them. Maybe I am wrong.
One mile of highway gets you one mile, one mile of runway gets you anywhere.