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Irish Aviation - Round 9! (9/07)  
User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

I know Toulouse had planned to write something up tonight, but the pace of the postings on thread No.8 has forced us to divert to No.9 and take on some extra fuel/provisions.

So what is ahead of us in the next week or so (we can't look to March just yet with the speed of these posts)

1) EI
The Unions and Mgt are digging their heels in over the new contracts that Mgt say must be adopted by March 1st in order for EI to remain competitive, and grow. The Unions claim that Mgt won't negotiate and are reneging on previous commitments on terms of employment. The stage is set for a showdown which could result in an all out strike at the airline, something that will not help Mgt and employees fight off any fresh bid from FR and Mo'L.
Also in the news, EI has said they will decide on a new hub in the next few months which will be up and running by Jan 2008. Rumours have had Belfast/Birmingham or an Eastern European city as the likely candidates, but until more info. is leaked, it is anybodies guess

2) WX
The lack of news on the introduction of WX's new ARJ fleet has started to be noted. The airline was suppose to introduce the new (for WX) aircraft from November 06 onwards at the rate of 1 per month, while the aging 146 fleet is slowly retired. As of mid Feb, only 1 aircraft was in service in AF colours, and 3 more remain in the tech hangers, maybe a few months in storage hasn't left them in as good a condition as WX thought they were in at first glance?

3) FR
With a bump in profits reported last week, and multiple new destinations and hubs being announced all over Europe, FR and it's 'maddog' CEO Mo'L still remain a carrier most people love to hate, but yet admire for their success all over Europe, and for introducing 'lowfares' and competition to Ireland and beyond. The last few weeks have seen them get their knuckles rapped a few times for dangerous approaches in Knock/Cork and Stansted over the past yr, and it is something they must resolve quickly if they are to continue to grow and become Europe's biggest airline.
As for Mo'L himself, he says he'll step down in about 2yrs, probably when FR does become Europe's biggest airline by pax carried, but I'm sure he won't fully disappear.


Finally on the airport front:
Galway is looking at extending their runway to allow bigger B737/A320 type aircraft to operate
Knock announced 2 transatlantic routes to be operated during the summer to Boston and New York
Cork is the setting for an all out battle between RE and FR on the DUB/ORK route, with a likely winner known in the next few months
Dublin has welcomed the likely introduction of slots for the busy summer season, although FR has threatened to take legal action once again to block their introduction, so we'll either have new FR routes and an airport that can't cope, or a little bit of sense prevailing at the airport during this summer, only time will tell.

Enjoy!


Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6010 times:

Well, he had his chance. Please ask the moderators to shut down the old one.

User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Great intro Pilot 21, right off the bat of Kaitak.

User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5971 times:

Just seen this in another thread, apparently Cityjet in co-operation with AF are to launch 8 new routes from LCY including Nice and Zurich. Unfortunately no ORK service. Take a look@
CityJet/AF Expand LCY To 10 Destinations (by Runway23 Feb 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Nice intro Pilo21  bigthumbsup 

It was mentioned in the last thread if EI would make a short-haul order this year and I think it's likely that EI might get a great deal from Airbus for A32Xs if they order the A330/350XWB. When DM arrived at EI over a year ago now he said that he wanted EI to have a short-haul fleet of 42 aircraft and I'm sure theres room for some more A321s.

Belfast was talked about a few months ago and if it becomes the new base then EI will have a battle with BD which is interesting as BD, although in my eyes a great airline, is in an identity crisis just like EI was a few years ago. This identity crisis seems to be putting off passengers and it has been said a few times on here that BD is having a few small problems at LHR.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

CITYJET EXPANSION ANNOUNCED!

Quote:

Official Press Release:

AIR FRANCE AND CITYJET LAUNCH NEW SERVICE
CITYJET FOR AIR FRANCE
TO AND FROM THE HEART OF LONDON

CityJet for Air France, is first and foremost the largest network out of London City airport with close to 70 daily flights, mainly operated with Avro RJ 85 aircraft seating 95 passengers.


Starting on 26 March 2007, CityJet for Air France will be offering 10 routes out of London City including eight new ones:

Geneva
Madrid
Milan Linate
Nice
Zurich

and in cooperation with ScotAirways:

Belfast Harbour Airport
Dundee
Edinburgh
These routes will be in addition to existing Air France services operated by CityJet out of London City: Paris-Orly (6 daily flights) and Dublin (5 daily flights).


CityJet for Air France, is also an exclusive product with a very short check-in time of 10 minutes (at London City Airport) and a wide-range of e-services in a small but very convenient airport which makes travel easy for customers.


" CityJet for Air France is an important milestone. We are pleased to underline our commitment to London City where we have had a presence for many years while simultaneously pursuing our development with our revamped fleet ", said Geoffrey O'Byrne White, CityJet CEO.


Etienne Rachou, Air France Senior Vice President of Europe and North Africa, added : "We are providing our business clientele with a hitherto unknown service, access to a network straight from the heart of London with all the benefits and services the Air France Group has to offer. In this way we are strengthening our position as leader in this market".


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

'Cityjet for AirFrance'

.......what a shite name, easily forgotten. 'Air France Cityjet' sounds better, similar to the way Lufthansa has 'Lufthansa Cityline for their Avro ops.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26855 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5945 times:

Well done Pilot21 on a nice intro.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 4):
This identity crisis seems to be putting off passengers and it has been said a few times on here that BD is having a few

I think with the buying of BMED , BD will settle down and has basically done the right thing and will have some very interesting and profitable routes. Time will tell.

Quoting Poitin (Reply 1):
Well, he had his chance. Please ask the moderators to shut down the old one.

Never mind Toulouse you can aim for the next thread, that gives you at least a few days to come up with something knowing the speed of these threads...LOL


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5941 times:

The amount of A330s being sold recently is worrying me. I think it's great for the A330 but bad for EI unless they have an agreement on some reserved A330 slots because if they dont order soon or at least before BA and LH, the slots for A330s and even A350s will disappear and EI will have to wait and deal with an ageing A330 fleet for longer.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 6):
'Cityjet for AirFrance'

Agreed that is a horrible name, makes them sound like a slave airline for AF and easily forgotten.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
I think with the buying of BMED , BD will settle down and has basically done the right thing and will have some very interesting and profitable routes. Time will tell.

I used to fly BD to DUB from LHR a lot but the last few years I went back to EI because the flights were just no longer enjoyable. I keep saying to myself that I should fly BD soon but never get round to booking the flight hopefully they will settle down like you say and make some more money.


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 8):
The amount of A330s being sold recently is worrying me

Airbus and CIT have just announced an order for another 5 A330's and 10 A320's for the leasing company. At this stage the only hope EI of getting A330's in 2008 is if they lease them from these guys. (unless some gentleman's agreement was done last yr on slots, but Airbus don't need EI that badly)

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 8):
I used to fly BD to DUB from LHR a lot but the last few years I went back to EI because the flights were just no longer enjoyable

I tried to suggest this before that the BMI experience on that route was not good, and was told otherwise by 2 other members, but their lack of back up aircraft, and poor timings after the morning rush has left me stranded in Dublin and LHR a few times, with the result that I never even look at their prices anymore, if I want to fly back from London, EI is the first port of call, followed by Cityjet and FR.



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 9):
At this stage the only hope EI of getting A330's in 2008 is if they lease them from these guys.

I think an agreement has been reached because why would DM mention that EI would get at least 2 A330s in 2008 hopefully they will announce this with their new long-haul order whenever that might be.

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 9):
Airbus don't need EI that badly

Airbus want EI more than Boeing does that's for sure so I really think Airbus will fight for Aer Lingus and offer them as many deals as they can.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Quoting Poitin (Reply 1):
Well, he had his chance. Please ask the moderators to shut down the old one.

Never mind Toulouse you can aim for the next thread, that gives you at least a few days to come up with something knowing the speed of these threads...LOL

I second that! Toulouse, you are up for the next thread. Set it off once this one gets to 150. I really would like to see your intro. You have a couple of days to get it ready. I am sure it will happen before Kaitak returns, so I don't think he would mind.

Any other KAITAK wannabes out there who would like to kick off a thread? I think you all should have a try at it. While Kaitak does a great job, he does get tried, so let's spread the load. How about you SmokeyRoscoe? While we may disagree, I still find your views interesting and I am sure you could do an great intro.

Pilot21, you get 4 gold stars for your intro. Excellent job!


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

Anyone else feel that these threads are becoming more and more about the business of starting new threads than the actual quality of discussion in them. This one just opened and already the discussion is centred around who will open the next one!

[Edited 2007-02-15 19:15:52]

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5881 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Thread starter):
I know Toulouse had planned to write something up tonight, but the pace of the postings on thread No.8 has forced us to divert to No.9 and take on some extra fuel/provisions.

Thanks for that and thanks for the message you sent me. Today has been one of those days in the life of a freelancer, yesterday I wasd twiddling my fingers all day, today I haven't stopped and it looks like I'll be working until late. Great intro anyway.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 6):
'Cityjet for AirFrance'

.......what a shite name, easily forgotten. 'Air France Cityjet' sounds better, similar to the way Lufthansa has 'Lufthansa Cityline for their Avro ops.

I always thought was Air France by Cityjet, just as on the other AF Frachises such as Air France par Régional, etc. Sounds better than Cityjet for Air France.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Never mind Toulouse you can aim for the next thread, that gives you at least a few days to come up with something knowing the speed of these threads...LOL

Thanks, so get writing as I'm off on holidays for a week next Tuesday morning and for the first time in about 3 yaers I'm planning on not turning on my laptop once (only thing is I sually threaten that when I go away)...

Quoting Poitin (Reply 11):
I second that! Toulouse, you are up for the next thread. Set it off once this one gets to 150. I really would like to see your intro. You have a couple of days to get it ready. I am sure it will happen before Kaitak returns, so I don't think he would mind.

Thanks Poitin for that and for your comments on the last thread.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 12):
Anyone elso feel that these threads are becoming more and more about the business of starting new threads than the actual quality of discussion in them. This one just opened and already the discussion is centred around who will open the next one!

Whoopps sorry EI321, I had already selected the above quotes by the time I got to your post. Anyway, I don't have any time to continue with you this evening, so get back on topic, and I hope to join you all again.
One thing, I'm slightly surprised EI appears to only be considering UK airports as their first base on "foreign" soil. Is the UK not already a fairly saturated market between BA, BMI, FR, EZY and a host of other airlines, locos, and charters?



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineShamrock330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5882 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 12):
Anyone elso feel that these threads are becoming more and more about the business of starting new threads than the actual quality of discussion in them. This one just opened and already the discussion is centred around who will open the next one!

I agree. OK so I don' t post every day on this forum and am by no means as regular a contributor as other more "high Profile" members but it does get slightly irritating. I once was commenting on the possible seats available to Aer Lingus only to get the "vibe" off another member that my posts were "mish mash" ( so to speak) and that the posting should be confined to the more mechanical operational side.

Kind of gets my back up when others now concentrate on (as you say) the starting of new threads.Contradiction Yeah sure


User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

Good opening 21, we should be very well on when Kaitak next has lounge access.

Whatever about the WX ARJs, which seem to be stealthy beasts indeed, the EI commuter BAe 146s live on and on in the film RTE regularly show to commemorate the current lovefest between DM and his staff.
Belfast to LCY is an interesting kick at ailing BD and another good reason why EI should stay out of Belfast.

A new GM for Galway airport apparently.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 14):
Kind of gets my back up when others now concentrate on (as you say) the starting of new threads.Contradiction

OK, OK, lets drop it. It seems to offend some of you, which is a pity as it shouldn't. I suppose this thread is just a bit like a sort of family, and some of us have been here for longern through good and bad times, but I agree, let's (well, I can't join tonight) but get back to pure Irish aviation topics so as not to irritate any more of us.

Happy chatting tonight all of you.

edited to state... By the way, this post was meant with the best of intentions. I fully understand some of you may dislike all the talk about who starts the thread. So lad and lassies (which we unfortunatly have none of...) back to aviation topics and I look forward to logging on tomorrow morning and seeing lots of teh usual friendly chat and craic on Irish aviation here on our Irish aviation thread. A demain!

[Edited 2007-02-15 19:23:36]


Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 15):
EI commuter BAe 146s live on and on in the film RTE regularly show to commemorate the current lovefest between DM and his staff.

Dont know why they keep showing Aer Lingus 737s and 146s on rte, its not like they dont have file shots of aircraft that Are Lingus actually operate nowadays! Poor aul Ryanair still gets their 732s broadcast ed to the nation aswell.

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 15):
Belfast to LCY is an interesting kick at ailing BD and another good reason why EI should stay out of Belfast.

Unless EI get 146/Avros again or Props (which poitin used to predict) they wont be going anywhere near LCY. It ain't gonna happen.


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 12):

I think we should just wait until this one is over and then think about it. Although Kaitak starts the threads and does so with style I dont think we should rank each other that's what RR is there for. Anyone should feel free to have a go if they wish. Sorry guys so many posts were posted when I was writing this so it seems a bit off topic now  Sad

Back to Irish aviation and Aer Lingus have got a Greece and Lithuania website now and fares to DUB from Athens are great, just €55 one way and €80 from DUB, I really think this will be a great route for EI as will SCQ. However I do think it's possible that FR will announce SCQ this year from DUB because they already fly there from STN, EMA and LPL and we all know FR like to challenge EI.
I was also hoping that WX would announce ORK as one of their new routes but I'm happy the airline is expanding despite it not expanding from Ireland

[Edited 2007-02-15 19:34:35]

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 18):
I really think this will be a great route for EI as will SCQ.

Me too. Athens is a good airport for onward flights to Greek Islands, Turkey, Cyprus, etc.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3919 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 17):

Dont know why they keep showing Aer Lingus 737s and 146s on rte, its not like they dont have file shots of aircraft that Are Lingus actually operate nowadays! Poor aul Ryanair still gets their 732s broadcast ed to the nation aswell.

Liekt eh public can tell the difference between a 732 and a 738!  biggrin  I do remember RTE using the brids which were leased from Swiss as stock footage for a while.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 18):
I was also hoping that WX would announce ORK as one of their new routes but I'm happy the airline is expanding despite it not expanding from Ireland


I think "CityJet for Air France" rather than "AirFrance/CityJet/ or Air France by CityJet" says a lot about where the decisions are made these days! ORK and SNN dont seem to be of any real importance to AF, indeed it is only in the past few months that they have allowed online bookings from ORKviaCDG and onwards.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5822 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 20):
I do remember RTE using the brids which were leased from Swiss as stock footage for a while.

Least we forget the Blue & Green AERLINGUS.COM 737s! They still pop up on the six one sometimes!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

Not a big piece of news but it may interest a few of you. Long-haul up a bit and Short-haul down a bit.

Quote:
Aer Lingus amends January figures
Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:27
Aer Lingus has released a corrected version of its January traffic figures, though the passenger figures remain the same.

The total load factor - the percentage of seats filled - was unchanged at 66.1%, but the short-haul load factor was revised down from 63.2% in last week's statement to 63.1%. The long-haul load factor, on the other hand, was corrected from 70.6% to 70.7%

http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0215/aerlingus.html

Quoting EI321 (Reply 17):
Unless EI get 146/Avros again or Props (which poitin used to predict) they wont be going anywhere near LCY. It ain't gonna happen.

If EI really want to go to LCY which I doubt they could use the A318 if it's certified for it.

[Edited 2007-02-15 20:05:04]

User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5803 times:

Quoting Shamrock330 (Reply 14):
Kind of gets my back up when others now concentrate on (as you say) the starting of new threads.Contradiction Yeah sure

Sorry you feel that way. However, when the thread gets changes more often than some change their underwear, it is important to spread the load out. Kaitak was doing all the work. Now that he has taken a few days off, this thread would be up to several hundred postings in short order. I was merely trying to get others to contribute. Fortunately both Toulouse and Pilot21 do want to try their hand. If you do not want to, then fine. To each his own.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 16):
By the way, this post was meant with the best of intentions. I fully understand some of you may dislike all the talk about who starts the thread. So lad and lassies (which we unfortunatly have none of...) back to aviation topics and I look forward to logging on tomorrow morning and seeing lots of teh usual friendly chat and craic on Irish aviation here on our Irish aviation thread. A demain!

Agreed!  Big grin


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3919 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

EI LEAVING ONEWORLD

Thats not news, I know [biggrin] but what I am wondering is, will EI be keeping its interline agreements with the likes of IB, LA, etc when it leaves oneworld? I havent heard anything on this so far, so Im wondering if anyone knows more? I do know the codeshare is gone on teh DUB-MAD/BCN flights.......

Cheers,
Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
25 EI321 : Its not certified yet but they are trying to get it certified. The issue with the A318 is not its takeoff performance, thats fine. It needs to be cer
26 Toulouse : Yeah, I think that codeshare has been gone for quite a while now. IB used to also codeshare on DUB-LHR flights with EI until not so long ago, I imagi
27 OA260 : Hmm I guess it will do well but the fares are quite high for my liking cheapest it Eur230 all in. When they come down to Eur150 all in then I will fl
28 Planemanofnz : YES! I come onto the Irish threads now and while I am trying to keep up with what happened in thread 7, everyone else has moved onto thread 10 or som
29 BrianDromey : Hi OA! Thses call centres are actually outsourced to a company called "Ventura" they are a large outsource provider of call centres. Ventura provide
30 Toulouse : Yes, just took a look at the fares are quite high. I would have thought thed's have some nice offers as they're launching the route. In all fairness,
31 EI787 : I've just heard that on the GF flights from DUB, all briefings are made as Gaeilge as well as English!! Nice touch by the airline!!
32 Toulouse : That is a nice touch and just shows how serious they are with regard to customer service and satisfaction. Very nice touch as you say!
33 Pilot21 : I suppose the proof on that route is in the load factors, and yield, and from what has been said before, apparently DUB is one of their best performi
34 Pilot21 : This mornings Irish Times has an article on the Cityjet expansion plans announced yesterday. The interesting points of the article are a swipe at the
35 Planemanofnz : They hire Gaelic speaking crews! I hope it is pronounced well enough to be understood easily.That is a very good advantage that GF have over EI.
36 Dstc47 : Not suggesting that EI would ever operate to London City from Belfast, EI321, I am just saying that this intensifies the already pronounced competitio
37 EI321 : Interesting, any news on the Air Corps Museum?
38 AerArann : Can anyone inform me if The BMI staff board flights in DUB, or is it AVIANCE or A handling agent?? I know BMI run the ticket desk and the check-in
39 EI321 : I dont think BMI do thir own handling but Im not certain.
40 OA260 : I dont think BMI do thir own handling but Im not certain Is it not Aviance??? I dont really take notice anymore to be honest they just have blue unifo
41 BrianDromey : Hmm...I think its just the "overflow call centre" which is staffed in the UK, but Im not sure. Granted I ahevnt rung in quite a while, but I do seem
42 Post contains images EIDAA : They weren't actually leased from Swiss, just previously operated by them. Just nit-picking On the new EI base front, if it was BFS that got the nod,
43 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus do speak Gaelic on long-haul flights and a bit on short-haul flights, it's a nice touch by GF especially as the language isn't spoken that
44 Post contains links Rineanna : Apparently some vandals went on a mini graffitti rampage last night at DUB: Link: http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0216/airport.html
45 Pilot21 : While the graffiti is very annoying, the real concern here is security. Obviously some person or persons made it onto the tarmac and had a bit of fun
46 EI321 : Was the graffitti politically orientated perhaps? We will see on the news later.
47 OA260 : Like what ??? Free Dublin or something LOL The security at Dublin aiport is a joke and has been proved so . Plus some of the people that work there o
48 Steve332 : Hi Guys, This is my first post, Iv been browsing the forums for a while and decided its about time I joined. Does anybody know when the new 330's are
49 Shamrock350 : Welcome Steve! They are due for May and June as are two more A320s.
50 Steve332 : Cheers for the Welcome, I knew about the 320's alright but didnt know about the 330's. (I really should, my Dad works on the line at DUB with them)
51 Post contains images Rineanna : Welcome to the fastest moving thread in the history of A.net!!! That's debatable by the way..... Eco terrorism provoked by the expansion of DUB airpo
52 OA260 : LOL.... Maybe they only do them if there are Irish crew rostered on that flight . My neighbour came back from Australia with them last week and the a
53 Steve332 : Could be! it was before X-Mas when I flew from DUB on them. It could be a new thing either
54 EI321 : Off the beaten track, but perhaps of interest to some of us. Heres an 1998 Flight International article about Aer Lingus' plans to replace the 737 fle
55 OA260 : BTW Steve, welcome!!! Tell me what did you think of GF ??? What class were you in and what was the food , TV etc.. like ??? I would appreciate your c
56 OA260 : I see Etihad have now on sale their flights from 3rd August in First Club and Economy Dublin - Abu Dhabi C class return €2298 Y class return €561
57 BrianDromey : Those are pretty good fares, I have to say. Oh, and BTW is Coral(Y), Pearl(C) and Diamond(F) Zones! They should do prety well with connecting traffic
58 OA260 : LOL, I know , Ive heard all the guff from EY in London on their product but I couldnt be bothered to write it !!!LOL They should do very well though
59 Shamrock350 : Just some news on EI at ORK and Aer Lingus now use the sole air bridge there regularly as EI staff have been well trained on it. Hopefully if I get ov
60 EIBoston : I flew in there from LHR last Friday and we did not use the air bridge. Didn't mind too much as it was beautiful outside and I love getting the smell
61 OA260 : Is there only one air bridge at ORK??? It seems a bit lame to me !!! I havnt been to ORK for 5 years .Didnt they build a new terminal there????
62 Rineanna : Yup they did with a grand total of....one airbridge! Can't see the sense in it myself either. However, on a Cork airport pamphlet I read while the ne
63 EI321 : As far as I know the terminal is designed for three but only one was installed. Speaking of Cork like, whats the situation with the old terminal?
64 Post contains links Shamrock350 : There is a debt problem at Cork with regard to the new terminal but I dont know the full scale of it so that one air bridge could be there for some ti
65 OA260 : Hmm ORK sounds a bit like BHD. BD I think sponsored the sole air bridge and is used by BD only. I guess its ok for BHD but ORK is a bigger airport and
66 Kaitak : Buenos dias, amigos - hello from sunny Fuerteventura. Got down here last Wednesday on a First Choice 757; not a bad flight, although with 230+ pax, it
67 Kaitak : Today's Irish Times carries a story on EI's proposed expansion: 300 new pilots and cabin crew - some for the new European base and others for long hau
68 Shamrock350 : Enjoy the sun Kaitak! Although ORK is a growing airport and it has got the capability to have more air bridges why would an airport with a high debt o
69 EI787 : What's with all the delays at DUB today?? It seems that nearly every arriving flight has been delayed by an hour or two!! What's going on??
70 Shamrock350 : I noticed that myself while looking at the Dublin arrivals, there are even a few cancellations and some flights are arriving ahead of schedule while o
71 Post contains links Rineanna : Fog. Link: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/notic...e=gops&code=070118-WIND18JAN_EN-GB
72 OA260 : Hmmm just a mate of mine from Cork is always going on about how good Cork Airport is and that there are loads of airlines with direct flights into et
73 Steve332 : Just read in Feb's edition of Flying Ireland that Dublin - London is the worlds 2nd busiest route behind Hong Kong - Taipei. There was a thread on her
74 Rineanna : I think DUB-LON is the second busiest INTERNATIONAL route. AFAIK, I think the other thread you saw was one which included domestic routes where route
75 Steve332 : Yeah you could be right! Couldnt imagine it being busier than BCN - MAD or NYC - Chicago either (all airports included obivously)!
76 Shamrock350 : Cork only has 8 scheduled airlines operating out of it at the moment with Aer Lingus and Aer Arann being the largest and Ryanair being third. There a
77 Rineanna : You just pointed out something which really bugs me about EI.com. When FR have even the smallest bit of news regarding disruptions or new routes (or
78 OA260 : EI do have a good flight info section though. I actually didnt know it existed until last week when a collegue wanted to know if her hubby had landed
79 Post contains images Rineanna : Yes I agree with you there, it's quite useful. However, the news section may aswell not even be there given how often they update it!    I read tod
80 BrianDromey : At ORK there are 38 scheduled destinations and 21 charter destinations, 8 scheduled airlines and the usual charter airlines(FCA, FUA, MON, CSA tend t
81 Shamrock350 : The FR news section is updated almost twice a week whereas EI's is updated about once every 2 months and with a possible strike coming up I'm surpris
82 EI2KSEA : I think that EI disposed of the Pegasus stake during the first fincancial crisis around 1994. Interestingly their livery was identical to Futuras at
83 Rineanna : Yes, the same article in AW says that they retained a 20% stake in Futura, but I don't think they mentioned what became of the Pegasus stake.
84 Shamrock350 : I'm not sure, there's no mention of it on EI.com or in the investor relations where most Aer Lingus business info is. I thought it was sold after 9/1
85 EI321 : Thats correct, Aer lingus still own 20% of futura. Futura was founded on November 28, 1989. Until Nov 2002, Aer Lingus owned 100% of the company's sh
86 Rineanna : From what I can gather from the Pegasus website, it was founded as a joint venture between EI and two other entitys, while it was taken over by a sepe
87 Post contains links Shamrock350 : I remember when I was in the old terminal at ORK there was a scale model of the future ORK and I have been looking everywhere for a picture of it and
88 Post contains links and images EI321 : Pegasus airlines was established on in Dec 1989. It was owned by Aer Lingus until 1994 when it was sold to Yapi Kredi Bank. It is now owned by Esas H
89 Post contains images SunCEO : Sorry to be a bit off topic, I was just on the Cityjet website to read the official press release re: new LCY routes and was disgusted to see this log
90 EI321 : Its ok, but will they be keeping the celtic style logo for their cityjet.ie site? Its an odd setup, they would be better just branding everything unde
91 Post contains images Shamrock350 : I like it because it's so simple although I can see why it could come across dull and I dont like the red logo which I understand is meant to represen
92 Post contains links and images EI787 : Nice pic of DUB on A.net's top photos of last 24 hours on the homepage: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mariusz Siecinski
93 Post contains images Rineanna : Thanks for that. It kind of figures though. If EI still had a stake in Pegasus to this day, we might have seen soem sort of a link up on a DUB-IST fl
94 Shamrock350 : Very nice photo and even better weather at DUB. The comment says it was a 757 so does anyone know how many airlines operate 757s into DUB, CO does but
95 Rineanna : Could be one of the charter carriers or a TNT/DHL 757F.
96 Shamrock350 : Probably was because the photo was taken in September so the summer charters would have still been flying into DUB.
97 Post contains links and images EI321 : View Large View MediumPhoto © José Ramón Valero - Iberian Spotters
98 EI2KSEA : Since we are kind of on the subject of EI history with the Pegasus, Futura and Aer Turas posts it reminded me of last christmas when I dug out my time
99 EI321 : Yeah It was wet leased to various airlines.
100 OA260 : US Airways will operate one this Summer when it resumes DUB PHL . I think its a smarter logo than the current WX one to be honest . Since they are op
101 EI321 : What is the situation there, will there be a separate SNN & DUB flight?
102 Post contains links and images EI321 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Johan Ljungdahl
103 Rineanna : No I think they're just downgrading the flight from a 762 to a 752. AFAIK, it's still going to be just the one flight routing PHL-DUB via SNN.
104 OA260 : SHANNON-PHL US724 and US725 757-200 NON STOP DUBLIN-PHL US722 and US723 757-200 NON STOP So both cities are getting non stop services with the 757 thi
105 EI321 : How about AA and DL? Are they upgrading their DUB flights? Would be nice to see AC send A319s to SNN and the 767 or even A330 to DUB.[Edited 2007-02-1
106 Rineanna : Oh OK, my mistake. Thought I heard the loads weren't that great so they were just downsizing. Still no word on the JetBlue website re. the online all
107 EI787 : No luck for this summer. Looks like they will still operate the triangle route, AC894 - YYZ-DUB-SNN-YYZ. AA will revert back to the direct ORD-DUB-OR
108 OA260 : It wont happen im afraid , its seasonal traffic and the demand is not there. AC has downgraded this summer with a shorter operating time and an all Y
109 EI321 : Maybe SNN is not the lame duck that its made out to be!
110 COEI2007 : US always operated a seperated DUB-PHL and SNN-PHL service. For the last week of October 2006, it went to DUB-SNN-PHL. SN is the lame duck its made o
111 EI321 : Which is why Im scratching my head as to why both DL and CO would want to use larger aircraft in SNN than they do on the DUB route.
112 Aer Lingus : The DL 763's are used on flights to DUB due to them being equipped with BizElite seats, that's where the money is to be made. SNN is pretty much VFR t
113 Shamrock350 : It's not on aerlingus.com either but there was an announcement made but I suppose an official announcement made by both airlines wont happen until al
114 OA260 : Yes but with 767's .
115 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Will Aer Lingus move to T4 at LHR now that it's not in any alliance? I think this is how it will stand from March 2008 when T5 opens but I'm sure many
116 EI321 : Wont there be a big change once piers are redesigned anyway? Whens that starting?
117 Kaitak : I certainly hopw EI does not move to T4. It is quite difficult to get from there to the other terminals, connection times are longer and the airport
118 Shamrock350 : Well I'm sure they wont be staying where they are even with T1 being home to Aer Lingus for quite sometime. I say this because Terminal 1 & 2 will be
119 Kaitak : I was looking at the Indo a short while ago and there was a piece about IBEC (the business lobby group) and its proposals to trade more with Asia. Amo
120 EI321 : Im with you. T4 is a pig for connections, and now it will be the furthest terrminal from T5 which is probably going to be the most common terminal fo
121 Post contains images Shamrock350 : We dont seem to be seeing any action coming from EI or DUB on new long-haul routes so I think many future EI passengers will still have to go through
122 Pilot21 : Unfortunately BA have said nobody else is getting T5 apart from themselves, because it is barely big enough for BA. Does anybody know how the change
123 Shamrock350 : I read somewhere that BA will actually have some aircraft at T3 even with all three T5 buildings up and running because BA is so big even the new T5 c
124 EI321 : Well second pier in T5 wont even be ready until 2011.
125 OA260 : Terminal 1 is a complete dump!!! The sooner they knock it the better!!! T4 is nice enough but showing its age. I was there the day they opened up 198
126 Shamrock350 : I've never though so but I think I used it so much that I have a soft spot for it and it's been the first thing I see when flying EI back home since
127 EI321 : From my experience, every terminal in LHR is a complete dump. The whole place is far far worse that DUB.
128 OA260 : Actually I have to disagree there , you cant compare London Heathrow to Dublin !!!! Dublin could be compared to Newcastle or Bristol and if that happ
129 COEI2007 : CO had, up until this summer, been operating the same sized a/c into DUB and SNN, a 757. This summer, DUB will get a 762, SNN a 752, and DUB-SNN-EWR
130 Smokeyrosco : Apparently it's about to be announced that ORK is going to take on around 120M euro of it's own debt whilst the rest will be transferred to DUB
131 Aer Lingus : Actually summer 2005 saw the 764 being operated into DUB.
132 COEI2007 : Thats right, I should have remembered. I was only thinking back to last summer!
133 Shamrock350 : Well it was said in 2003 that the DAA would absorb all the debt but Martin Cullen scrapped that idea and seems like he wants the DAA to pay half and
134 Pilot21 : Cityjet incident at LCY. It appears that a Cityjet flight from Orly burst a tire on landing at LCY this am. The aircraft is blocking the runway and LC
135 Shamrock350 : At least nobody was hurt and the aircraft only suffered some damage, I wonder how old the aircraft is! I was just looking for some flights to DXB in J
136 OA260 : Gulf Air is also doing LHR-BAH-DXB for £367 all in . OK AF AZ are all similar fares also. Its great to have so much competition and low fares. Lead i
137 Shamrock350 : If only EI would advertise their long-haul routes more in the UK. They did advertise JFK and BOS in the UK for a short while last year and I think it
138 Kaitak : I see that Cullen has "demanded" a report on FR's recent spate of careless landings. Interestingly, MO'L's response didn't exactly inspire confidence
139 Provance : Has anyone got a copy of the Sunday Business Post. While on the Cork train yesterday I saw someone reading an article about EI. It looked fantastic. I
140 Bx737 : Just going back to the whole LHR debate, it is thought that EI will move to Terminal 3. I know that goes against the info Shamrock350 has. I am due to
141 AerArann : Would It not make the most sense for EI to use LHR terminal 5, as all of EI routes to LHR are codeshared with BA, outside of the oneworld alliance.
142 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : This could be of interest to some of us, http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2016788,00.html I have one question regarding this, can the governmen
143 Teahan : That was the Sunday Times. The art work was worth more than the writing.
144 JWMD123 : Where is this figure of 7 L/H aircraft coming from. I thought it was 2 this year and 2 to be 'deployed' next year. I wonder is this an indication of
145 Post contains links and images Smokeyrosco : " target=_blank>http://business.guardian.co.uk/story....html I didn't know that SNN was in Galway Good news or at least a step in the right direction
146 Pilot21 : Not a comment directed at you AerArann, but at the board in general. Due to the number of posts being made on these threads, the temptation to skip t
147 COEI2007 : Slightly off topic, does anybody know the EI cabin announcements in Irish???
148 Shamrock350 : I think that could be the interim A330s until the A350/787 is ordered, that is if they ever decide to order them! Although that figure could be wrong
149 AerArann : None Taken, I understand where your coming from, and i apologise for my mistake
150 Pilot21 : No mistake, and thanks for understanding.
151 Rineanna : Yes ,SNN is having a bit of an identity crisis at the moment. As you pointed out the Guardian says it's in Galway, Lithuanian Airlines advertise it o
152 OA260 : The EU is getting too big for its boots and will make enemies if they start dictating to the Irish people !!! The Irish should just go ahead and stic
153 Rineanna : Yes, I just caught the tail end of it on Today FM this morning. What In heard was that a woman and her family were flying from Dublin to Manchester o
154 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus customer services has always been a bad point of EI and really needs to get fixed if they want to succeed as large European worldwide airli
155 COEI2007 : That makes sense. Still, operating two 764's sold as all-economy, is not going to make much money. Thats a lot of seats ex SNN!
156 Pilot21 : There was a report a few weeks ago that said even if the EU/US open skies deal wasn't agreed, the US wouldn't negotiate individual deals with EU memb
157 OA260 : I remember hearing politians saying that Ireland wouldnt loose their rights to decide home issues!!!! Looks like they were telling more lies again !!
158 Smokeyrosco : My opinion thats just the US's way to get some countries to put more pressure on the EU just to accept the deal as it stands with the US.
159 ThrottleHold : Doesn't seem to be bad when you think FR would've just shown them 2 fingers at check-in and abandoned them for good with no hotel or return flight.
160 Toulouse : Totally off topic but just thought I'd drop in and greet you all. I got to visit another new airport for me today when I flew from Toulouse to Basel/M
161 BrianDromey : In EIs defence the Gold Circle crew are very good, They have responded to my e-mials within HOURS. So kudos to EI! Not FR bashing here, but their 'cu
162 Toulouse : Missed this and must jump in! I agree with Brian here and disagree (for a change!!) with your Shamrock350. Aer Lingus customer services has always bee
163 EIDAA : Unfortunately I have to disagree here. I find it difficult to get a response by email from Gold Circle, and I have never been able to reach anyone th
164 Kaitak : The "vibes" at the moment are quite good, but if the EU/US talks got held up because of the ownership issue, something which the US has said is off t
165 Shamrock350 : I'm not a Gold Circle member but well done to EI for that but as Toulouse says, do they actually help you at all? Now I haven't had any reason to ask
166 Toulouse : Tell me about it! Glod Circle put me through about 6 months of hell. I had logged up to circa 4000 points and they still hadn't credited my points (w
167 JWMD123 : I think this is being taken out of context. The CAA have a choice. Leave the debt with the DAA and still stay under the control of the DAA for a good
168 OA260 : Whats Jetblue like??? Do they have J class??? or are they a FR type service?? Im thinking of flying them coast to coast. EI Gold Circle has gone way
169 Post contains images EI787 : Apparently they're very nice. Low cost but with PTV's on all aircraft with Live TV & Complimentary snacks and soft drinks. No J Class though. It's re
170 EIDAA : I have flown with them a few times, but nowhere near enough to qualify for member benefits or anything. I think you get 2/4 points per flight and get
171 BrianDromey : I personally do not have a problem with ORK staying as part of Aer Rianta, but if the DAA is not to take all of the debt, it certainly should not be
172 EIDAA : Join the club... Gold Circle tags on show here too! Who knows, hopefully the program will be improved under this latest round of changes to the EI pr
173 Tonymctigue : You can say that again. I agree. Afterall, if other EU countries already have OS agreements with the US, what is stopping Ireland from having one? Al
174 OA260 : Im a member of the BMI club as its the nearest Star Carrier to Ireland and it s also easy to get Gold status with them. The benefits are good and you
175 Al2637 : Guys, just remember, the Irish-US deal is a BI-LATERAL agreement, i.e. BOTH sides agreed to it. Ireland insisted on the SNN stopover, the US limited t
176 Bx737 : These are the ones I use: Dia dhaoibh a dhuine uaisle, cuireann Aer Lingus agus Oneworld failte roimhe, ni fada anois go mbeidhimid ar an bealach go
177 BrianDromey : Bim ag smaoineamh go raibh nios mo Gaeilge learbtha nuair a bhi me ag teastail le Aer Lingus fado. Ach sin mar ata cursai inniu! Thanks for that Bx73
178 Bx737 : B'feidir go bhfuil ceart agat. I have been with EI for 11 years and that is the full extent of the Irish that EI requires us to say. Unfortunately so
179 COEI2007 : Thanks a million!!! I like when crew's use Irish in their PA's!!! I'm trying to get the CO crews to do it, but its proving a struggle!
180 Bx737 : It is a nice touch and one appreciated by passengers, I've heard Irish on First Choice and Futura.
181 Post contains links Sawtooth : Department of Transport has announced the €86m in capital grants for regional airports. http://rte.ie/business/2007/0221/airports.html Quick breakdo
182 OA260 : Will EI do Greek announcements on the ATH flights????
183 Bx737 : What type of aircraft could land with this lengthened runway
184 Sawtooth : It should accommodate regional jets like the BAE 146/Avro/Embraer ERJ-195. I'm guessing it could take a 732 as Derry is 1852m and serviced by a Ryanai
185 Rineanna : Well I'm no expert but Aberdeen's runway is 1829m x 46m and it can handle Bae-146s along with B733s of BA nd A319s of BMI. Not sure if these are payl
186 Smokeyrosco : It could take a 738 or 320 also with a little payload restriction.
187 Post contains images Bx737 : Thanks very much for the info. Will we see a Cork North airport served by FR?
188 Post contains images Danny : Ryanair cancels flights due to.... dear activity "Flight Cancellations at Krakow Airport -20/21 Feb 2007 Krakow International Airport have informed us
189 Smokeyrosco : Haha I can see it now...... Glasgow (Prestwick) to Cork (Waterford) for €0.01
190 EIBoston : Well Cork North would proberly be Mallow! Didn't a Mexican private jet land there back in the 80's. The pilot declared an emergency and Cork ATC dive
191 Post contains links EIBoston : Just a follow up to my story above Mallow Racecourse, now known as Cork Racecourse became an emergency airfield on April 18, 1983, when a Mexican Gulf
192 Rineanna : Hmm, weren't Galway going to extend their runway to accomodate 737/320s? I wonder why they weren't allocated any funding for this. Unless that's what
193 Post contains images Bx737 : Gosh thats a nuisance about Mallow being Cork North....this leaves a bit of a quandry....have it, Shannon East By the way EIBoston thanks for the inte
194 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Ryanair offer the English escape routes! http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=07&month=feb&story=pro-en-210207
195 AerArann : There advertisements for the scottish "Air Discount Scheme" , which offers reduced air fares to residents of the scottish highlands
196 AerArann : This maybe of interest to alot of you here The Jameson Dublin International Film Festival which is currently on, will be showing: "GROUNDING : THE LAS
197 Post contains links EISHN : Hello! Firstly, hi to everybody here. I've been a long time lurker about here, and have finally joined. Secondly, I know Visionair has popped up here
198 Shamrock350 : Hello EISHN! I dont think it will amount to anything and to be honest I thought it was gone for good until it arrived back on the scene a few weeks ag
199 Kaitak : Hi, EISHN and welcome on board! I saw that snippet in Airliner World and I was wondering if anything would come of it. I guess, with these start ups y
200 EISHN : Thanks Shamrock350! Didnt know about the pics being taken from a.net. I heard that the airline was gonna use Dubai as a tech stop because of the 762s
201 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Well they don't seem to rushing with cabin upgrades Although EI should be with EY heading over soon and we all know how good EY cabins and IFE is! Gl
202 Post contains links EISHN : Cheers Kaitak! Well they don't seem to rushing with cabin upgrades Although EI should be with EY heading over soon and we all know how good EY cabins
203 Kaitak : Going back to the issue of regional airport assistance from the National Development Plan, Galway will actually get €6.3m; what is this for? Seems t
204 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Here's the Visionair thread, EISHN. http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/3001136 I think EI are updating the economy clas
205 EIRules : I know this isnt the most appropriate place to ask this but I wasnt sure where else to find any info. Cityjet have a Cadet Pilot Programme advertisd o
206 Shamrock350 : FR says too much and sometimes they need to be told "shut up" now EI did it by coming back from the dead but FR's silence didn't last long and at the
207 EI787 : Well I know of Pilot Training (http://www.pilottraining.ie) which is based in Waterford Airport. They train you from nothing right up to employment w
208 Rineanna : Now that you mention it, there was actually a feature on 'Nationwide' on RTE1 about that school, as far as I can remember. It was a couple of months
209 EISHN : I remeber Kaitak had been worried about A330 production slots disapearing, delaying EI L/H expansion. But as you all know, EI is receiving four A320s
210 Shamrock350 : Interesting! A few of us on here have had a feeling that EI got a deal for A330s but never had any evidence of it so this is good news I would just l
211 EISHN : Well I've been waiting ages to finally get in on these threads let loose things that I know, glad I was of help to you Shamrock350.BTW I hope the Prem
212 EIDAA : First off - welcome to the forums! EI getting a couple of A330s from AerCap wouldn't surprise me at all. Just out of interest, your dad's name isn't
213 EISHN : Yea, do you know him EIDAA?
214 Post contains images EIDAA : I don't think I have met him yet, but I have known the name for a while - leasing is a small business in Ireland. He helped me out with something ear
215 Post contains images EISHN : I just told him there, he was quite suprised, but amused at the same time. Its a small world after all
216 OA260 : Hmm what happens if England win ??? LOL.....I will be in ZRH this Saturday so will miss it but will have to log onto the web to see the results. Hey
217 EIDAA : Sure is! Fingers crossed those aircraft will come from the Aercap order, because EI will be hard pressed to find slots for delivery near term. You ar
218 EI2KSEA : Welcome EISHN! - you've already jumped right in and made an interesting contribution (unlike skulkers like me!!) So what are the realistic options? CP
219 Kaitak : Yes, they could return to BWI and MCO, but they would still be bound by the 50/50 rule and WW had said (in his days at EI) that BWI could be profitab
220 EISHN : Thank you all for the warm welcome! I think that CPT is very likley to be launched this winter. I think HKG could be announced as well. HKG would be g
221 Al2637 : Why don't EI's LAX flights stop in SNN?
222 EISHN : The flight EI145, used to start its journey at Shannon and end at Shannon, but I think that they either have some sort of agreement where they dont ha
223 BrianDromey : From what I an see its just the 332 that AerCap have ordered, IM not sure about the engine selection though. Have AerCap made a decision on the engin
224 JWMD123 : Investigation into Ryanair's bid to buy Aer Lingus extended 22/02/2007 - 12:35:10 The European Commission investigation into Ryanair's bid to buy Aer
225 EISHN : First thanks BrianDromey! Secondly, I have my doubts about the codeshare going through, its getting late, and what EI really need to do is go direct,
226 EI321 : maybe thay are not happening
227 EISHN : I remember Kaitak saying that he had travelled LHR-DUB on EI-LAX, and that he caught a small glimpse of the Premier section, and that it didn't look t
228 Post contains links Rineanna : Oh Oh...the jobs cull begins at SNN. http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0222/shannon.html Are they not permitted to fly to Dulles?
229 EISHN : They still have the rights to fly to BWI, because I believe that BWI was some sorta deal made outside the bi-lateral, and that they had to get specia
230 Post contains links EI321 : http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2016788,00.html
231 EI321 : Ive lost track of the amount of times that this 'EI is about to start the A330 seat upgrade' roumer has been circulated over the yrs. Well wouldnt he
232 Post contains links EISHN : I know this, but EI-LAX was one of the A330s with the older leather seats like on these http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...dth=1024&height=780&so
233 Shamrock350 : This thread has been going on for a while! I have been on EI-EWR and these seats are very comfy and have more power points but they basically do the s
234 OA260 : Whats Air AsiaX ??? I must have missed something ???? EI should install Premium Y also . The seats should be similar to SQ or NZ and then they would
235 Post contains images Shamrock350 : That's the name or the temporary name at least of the long-haul airline coming out of the LCC Air Asia. They expressed interest in DUB along with man
236 Post contains links EISHN : I personally don't like the idea of a long haul low cost carrier. These carriers will force other airlines that won't be able to compete against thes
237 Kaitak : Yes, the J Class cabin looked very nice; I was in Y Class, of course; it was a Christmas flight and I was very pleased to be flying on the 330. The J
238 Post contains links Kaitak : Here's your boarding pass for Thread No10 ... hurry along now ! Rolling On 10; The Next Irish Aviation Thread (by Kaitak Feb 22 2007 in Civil Aviation
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