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Strange Sight Yesterday Over NJ  
User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 51
Posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Hi all,

Yesterday, I was going through Middlesex Co. in central NJ, about 30-35 miles SSE of EWR, when approaching out of the west towards the coast came a Lufthansa 747, real low, it headed towards the coast (away from EWR) and then turned north. Any explanations?


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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

I'm afraid I do not have an explanation, but I do know that landing patterns around densely populated EWR are often changing because communities thoughout northern and central New Jersey are complaining about a/c noise. I heard of one proposal so have incoming planes circle over the Atlantic south of Staten Island, but that wouldn't necessarily explain why the LH 747 was so low.

Incidentally, several nights ago, I heard the old once-familiar whine of first-generation turbofans. I looked up and could see the old-fashioned rotating beacon - I'm guessing what I saw was a JT-3D powered super DC-8, one of the many many freighters calling at EWR. I wonder how much longer I will hear that sound....

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

He wasn't that high, though, maybe 2500 feet at the most. At that altitude he was too low for any airport. I was thinking maybe JFK because he turned in that direction, but his altitude is bothering me.


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User currently offlineCyrusc From Malaysia, joined Sep 2011, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3814 times:


That approach is typical of planes landing on runway 4R at Newark. Transatlantic arrivals will typically first fly to Albany, and then turn southwards and go to the Sparta, NJ VORTAC. From there they will fly south right through the center of the state, and turn east and approximately follow the Raritan River. When abeam the runway, they will turn to the north for final approach.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17316 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

I live in Western Monmouth county and there are days when EWR bound aircraft seem extremely close to the ground,Continental Dc-10s,El Al 747s and the Luftansa 747 from Frankfurt are often flying right over my house.

They come in over land from the North pass EWR to the West and then make a turn first to the East and then to the North following the Parkway over the Raritan to the Turnpike,they fly right over highways and industrial areas whenever possible to avoid bothering local residents.

They will sometimes go as far South as Upper Freehold township where there is some sort of marker or directional aide before swinging around for the approach into EWR.

They have to avoid Southern Monmouth,Ocean and Burlington Counties because thats restricted Military airspace for Maguire,Lakehurst, and Willow Grove NAS.

I go to school at Monmouth and when Im down at the shore I notice lots of wide bodies like American 767s come in over the Ocean from the East and right above the Long Branch area make sharp right turns to the North,they follow the Jersey Shore across Sandy Hook and over the Eastern part of NY harbor (East of Staten Island and the Varrazzano) then head right into JFK.

I spent the Summer a couple of years ago at Twin lights in the Highlands right above Sandy Hook where you can actually see JFK,and you can catch all sorts of low flying aircraft heading for JFK there.Once while I was driving in Sea Bright the Concord flew very low right over the beach on it's approach into JFK to the North.

JFK traffic flies over Eastern Monmouth county right over the beach for approaches into JFK while EWR aircraft enter the approach patterns in Western Monmouth County and follow it North through Middlesex,Union and Essex County.

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3776 times:

Oh ok-the actual sighting was made in Monroe Township, NJ, near Cranbury, exit 8A off the NJ Turnpike.


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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

I've been noticing some low-flyers recently in the last week or two(my house is on the approach to PHL, before it goes over to NJ and comes back into PA to land(hard to explain). and I am seeing planes fly so low that I can clearly read the name, and see the livery. I have seen a UA, FL, several US's, but mostly UPS DC-8s, and 727s. Anyone explain?

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