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Mexicana And Cathay Team Up  
User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

According to Mexicana Frecuenta (ffp homepage), Mexicana and Cathay will join together to fly to Hong Kong, Beijing, Bangkok and more starting March 1st. It seems that the codeshare through LAX finally made it.

Now MX codeshares with:
Oneworld: IB, AA, CX, LA, QF
Star Alliance: SQ, LO, OZ, LH, NZ
Skyteam: AM
Other: VW, QA


Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
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User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

I hope they fly less frequently to L.A. with bigger planes, I hate the actual scheme, like 10 flights daily with A320´s, when maybe 3 or 4 with a nice 767... and the diference is huge when you deplane on a 747 and then get on a 320 for another 3 hours...


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User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
I hope they fly less frequently to L.A. with bigger planes, I hate the actual scheme, like 10 flights daily with A320´s, when maybe 3 or 4 with a nice 767...

The thing is that MX currently offers the following nonstops from Los Angeles: Cancún, Guadalajara, León, Los Cabos, Mazatlán, Mexico City, Morelia, Zacatecas and starting March 1st, Culiacán and Monterrey and with their LCC they fly to Torreón. The reason you see that many 320s is because they have a lot of destinations out of LAX. It is also important to notice that they have around 5 nonstops to MEX, but business traveleres also like to have schedule options. Sad to mention that MX only has 2 767 which they use to EZE only  Sad - we all wish they could have some more...but we'll have to wait for that.

Also MX is among the largest international carriers in LAX.



Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Sorry I can not find the info in www.frecuenta.com.mx. Would you mind posting the link?
BTW, would it mean that MX and SQ will finally break up.??? If so I must reddem my miles before it is to late.

Quoting Jopavon (Thread starter):
Now MX codeshares with:
Oneworld: IB, AA, CX, LA, QF
Star Alliance: SQ, LO, OZ, LH, NZ
Skyteam: AM
Other: VW, QA

And JL so they announce when in "momentito" (waiting) mode while one of their executives are available to take your call.

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
when maybe 3 or 4 with a nice 767...

They did for awhile when the first ex-SK b767 arrived (I was in the first flight mex-lax  Smile) and yes, it was a great flight.

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
and the diference is huge when you deplane on a 747 and then get on a 320 for another 3 hours...

Imagine deplaning on a SQ 747 from FRA (SQ25), wait 6 hrs at JFK and then get on a cramped A318.



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User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3049 times:

It seems like a warm up or a trial before venturing into Asia with it´s own metal and people. Codesharing with the best will require MX to improve it´s passengers service.

I really hope MX crosses the big pond soon.



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User currently offlineGemini573 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3007 times:

Quoting Anthsaun (Reply 4):
It seems like a warm up or a trial before venturing into Asia with it´s own metal and people. Codesharing with the best will require MX to improve it´s passengers service.

I hope CX will place their flight numbers on MX flights as well. I think it would be fantaistic if CX decides to expand into Latin America. .

As far as MX, do they have any orders for widebodies to fly over the pond?


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Mexicana is practically a non-official member of One world. I wonder why they haven't apply to join???

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
I hope they fly less frequently to L.A. with bigger planes, I hate the actual scheme, like 10 flights daily with A320´s

Their flights do very well, specially all the flights between 10 pm-5 am. Passengers like frequencies and variety on their destinations. If they ever get the A321, that airplane would be perfect, anything bigger and cutting flights I think would be a bad idea.


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9105 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 6):
Mexicana is practically a non-official member of One world. I wonder why they haven't apply to join???

I hear that maybe on the cards



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2872 times:
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Quoting Juventus (Reply 6):
Mexicana is practically a non-official member of One world. I wonder why they haven't apply to join???

I believe that the reason they pulled out* / arranged to get kicked out* of Star was because they didn't find the benefits sufficient to counter the costs of full membership ... maybe once bitten ? they seem to be getting a lot of benefit from their bilateral arrangements with other airlines and may see no need to take it to another level . It is nearly 3 years since they left Star and apparently they had some constraint against joining another alliance within 2 years , but that was up on 1 April last year so maybe they are not going to join ever .


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 8):

Well yeah. Mexicana didn't get much from Star Alliance, but I think Oneworld would be a better fit.


User currently offlineGemini573 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

I wonder if MX will be a part of oneworld? Based upon my readings of oneworld, in which they want to limit the size to 12 carriers, would MX really be a good fit? As I've said before, I think you'll see an Indian carrier and African carrier fill the last two spots of oneworld. Perhaps, MX could be an associate member?

User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 9):
Well yeah. Mexicana didn't get much from Star Alliance, but I think Oneworld would be a better fit.



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 8):
* please choose whichever suits your own beliefs and pretend not to see whichever one upsets you



Quoting Gemini573 (Reply 10):
I wonder if MX will be a part of oneworld?

Not now, maybe never....

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
I hope they fly less frequently to L.A. with bigger planes, I hate the actual scheme, like 10 flights daily with A320´s, when maybe 3 or 4 with a nice 767... and the diference is huge when you deplane on a 747 and then get on a 320 for another 3 hours...

And you got really good seats, sorry for the MEX-LAX  sorry 



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting Orbis (Reply 3):
Imagine deplaning on a SQ 747 from FRA (SQ25), wait 6 hrs at JFK and then get on a cramped A318.

Well, I beg to disagree a bit. For flights less than 5 hours long, a narrowbody is not that bad. And even though it is really cool to fly in a big widebody like a 747, an A346 or a 773, boarding and deplaning are long and potentially nightmarish processes... and don't get me started on waiting for your luggage. On the other hand, if you fly on board an A32X, then you can be sure that boarding, deplaning and claiming your bag will be rather quick. Besides, the fact that a plane has two aisles does not mean your seat will be more comfortable if you are in coach... in business maybe and in first definitely, but since most people fly coach, they don't care too much.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

I am not complaining about a single flight mex-lax, thats simple even in the worst seat because 3.5 hours its not that much, but imagine a guy on a 744 seated for 11 hours then 3 more on LAx then get in a A320 for another 3.5...OUCH...
Id love MX to get a bigger more "classy ride", I remember the countless times I took the Dc-10-15 out of LAX...

Well we can only hope....

BTW N405MX thanks for the First class seats!!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!



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User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting Orbis (Reply 3):
Sorry I can not find the info in www.frecuenta.com.mx. Would you mind posting the link?

On the home page there is a banner that has the announcement, if you click it, it doesn't give you any info...all I wrote came right of what it says there. It says in a big countdown how many days, hours are left for the tie up.



Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 13):
Well we can only hope....

And even wait, as the 767 are being scheduled for some flights to LAX, not confirmed, but there is some interesting rotation on the planes -also there are some to come -

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 13):
BTW N405MX thanks for the First class seats!!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!

You´re wellcome BTW, any info on my lights ???



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 1):
. and the diference is huge when you deplane on a 747 and then get on a 320 for another 3 hours...

Personally, I don't find connecting onto a smaller airplane much of a problem, the the airplane is at least a midsize jet. The seats are pretty much the same in terms of comfort and not likely to get more comfortable on a bigger jet of the same airline. Just that more people would be stuck on the widebody. I think MX high frequency to LAX and the numerous Mexican destinations is a great thing.

That aside, it is good to see MX with all these partners. Next stop One World Alliance. Way to go Mexicana.



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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting Jopavon (Reply 2):
MX only has 2 767 which they use to EZE only

I once flew MXB on the LAX-MEX run. Back then, it was a standard scheduled flight, and the LF was pretty high... I would say at least 3/4's of it. I've always thought flagship service MX 900 would do very well on a widebody.

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User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

As much as I would like to see MX in an alliance again, the reality shows to different scenarios. One makes us think MX´s is really close to OW because of the codeshare agreement. But the other show us that MX management is not interested in improving the quality standards demanded by OW (or any other alliance for that matter) to its members.

On airways magazine (october 2006 if I am not mistaken) there is this great trip report of a RTW with OW. It depicts greatly and at the end qualifies all flights and airlines flown, from the long houl SCL-SYD to the short hop LHR-CDG. I sadly and really do not see where MX ( in its current conditions) could fit in OW.

I must add that on the same magazine,a few years ago the same writer did the trip report of a RTW in that ocasion with Star Alliance, when MX was still part of it. Things have changed a lot ever since for MX and not for the best.

I guess my point is clear.

my 2 pesos

FC



we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
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