Lijnden From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 583 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2827 times:
The AC flights were mostly summer holiday package flights. Virginia Beach is or was very populair with Canadians. It also gives or gave ORF its International status (customs etc.).
I am not sure about the cruise terminal.
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TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3349 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2799 times:
Quoting Lijnden (Reply 1): It also gives or gave ORF its International status
Having Int'l service has NOTHING to do with the status. ORF is still an Int'l airport, because it is equipped to process int'll arrivals and departures. For example, CAK is not an international airport. But it had AC service around the same time, because of preclearance facilities at YYZ. CAK-YYZ service didn't last long either. However, the local GA airport in Akron, Akron-Fulton Int'l, is equipped to process Int'l arrivals and departures. There hasn't been any scheduled service to Akron-Fulton in my lifetime.
Quoting Flynavy (Thread starter): If I recall, they pulled out around 9/11. Was it to funnel pax to the cruise terminal here, or what? Just wondering.
It was because they thought they could make money, plain and simple. There was a ton of extra capacity following the CP/AC merger that had to be flown to new destinations. As I said earlier, AC started YYZ-CAK service around the same time, it lasted less than 6 months.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 28516 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2631 times:
Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 2): For example, CAK is not an international airport. But it had AC service around the same time, because of preclearance facilities at YYZ.
You are incorrect for 2 reasons. First, despite pre-clearance, airlines coming from Canada must always land at an airport with FIS capability and international status, hence why AS had to divert a YVR-SNA flight despite pre-clearance. Second, here is the operations listing on Airnav for CAK. Notice the final line.
Airport use: Open to the public
Sectional chart: DETROIT
Control tower: yes
ARTCC: CLEVELAND CENTER
FSS: CLEVELAND FLIGHT SERVICE STATION [216-267-3700]
NOTAMs facility: CAK (NOTAM-D service available)
Wind indicator: lighted
Segmented circle: no
Beacon: white-green (lighted land airport)
Landing fee: yes, MULTI ENG ONLY
Fire and rescue: ARFF index B
Airline operations: ONE HOUR PPR FOR UNSKED ACR OPNS WITH MORE THAN 30 PSGR SEATS CALL AMGR 330-499-4059. ARFF SVC NOT AVBL 0000-0600 DLY EXCEPT ONE HR PPR; CALL AMGR.
International operations: customs landing rights airport
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Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2254 times:
Well, there are plans to expand Norfolk's terminal to three concourses. The only other expansion in the works is another runway. They just finsihed a remodeling of the two existing concourses. See www.takeorf.com.