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User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

What airlines in the world are wholey owned or deely subsidized by the government? I live in Brasil but the airlines here are all privately owned, correct? Then, is British Airways privately owned or owned by the state?

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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

BA is a private Airline , AZ is to 49% public but the government will sell 39% .

User currently offlineColeplane From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

The following are wholey owned by the government:
Air Algerie
TAAG Angola
Azerbaijan
Belavia
Druk Air
Cubana
Garuda Indonesia
Iran Air
Air Koryo
PIA
Palestinian
Syrian
Conviasa
Vietnam

The government is the majority shareholder in these:
Singapore
Ukraine Intl
PLUNA
Uzbekistan

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_carrier



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User currently onlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Emirates owned but not supported by Dubai Government, which means it is an investment project which should make profit at the end of the year. Air Arabia is 50% owned by Government and the rest for senior businessmen
Etihad, Qatar Airways, Kuwait Airways, Oman Air, Egypt Air, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Iran Air, Royal Jordanian, Yemnia are all owned and supported by government, in which the government do not expect a profit they just keep pumping cash in it.


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

You can add TAME to the list as it's owned by the Air Force in Ecuador. Seems like there was a thread a few weeks ago about Uncle Hugo nationalizing an airline or two as well.


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8959 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4984 times:

Quoting Sampa737 (Thread starter):
I live in Brasil but the airlines here are all privately owned, correct?

AFAIK the only ever airline to be government owned in Brazil was VASP, but they were eventually privatized.



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User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

Quoting Coleplane (Reply 2):
Singapore

The Singapore govt is the majority shareholder through it's investment company, Temasek. Like Emirates, SQ is expected to give a return on the investment, and not simply suck in govt money.


User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1202 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4952 times:
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I believe the governments of Sweden, Denmark and Norway still have controlling interrests in Scandinavian Airlines
The Government of Canada also control Air Canada if I am correct.



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User currently offlineColeplane From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 7):
I believe the governments of Sweden, Denmark and Norway still have controlling interrests in Scandinavian Airlines

Say, a bit off subject, but do you know if SAS still has shareholdings in BMI?



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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

Cayman Airways is government owned, so is Satena from Colombia (owned thru the Colombian Airforce) and Ecuadorean Tame.
During its last years in the 80's, Air Panama was goverment owned too.
If Nica still exists as a company, the Nicaraguan government is a partner of TA, same is the case of Aviateca, where the Guatemalan government is supposed to be a shareholder..



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User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4851 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
Emirates owned but not supported by Dubai Government, which means it is an investment project which should make profit at the end of the year. Air Arabia is 50% owned by Government and the rest for senior businessmen
Etihad, Qatar Airways, Kuwait Airways, Oman Air, Egypt Air, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Iran Air, Royal Jordanian, Yemnia are all owned and supported by government, in which the government do not expect a profit they just keep pumping cash in it.

Give me a break. There's no distinction between Emirates and other regional carriers. Mohammed bin Rashed has a lot of involvement with the airline. Call a spade a spade.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

With the possibility to be the only one in the world, Cypriot Government owns two airlines - Cyprus Airways and Eurocypria.

In the past ECA used to be a subsidiary of CY but last August in a move to help the national carrier come out of a financial crisis the Government purchased ECA. Hence today they own 70% of Cyprus Airways and 100% of Eurocypria.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

Quoting Coleplane (Reply 8):
Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 7):
I believe the governments of Sweden, Denmark and Norway still have controlling interrests in Scandinavian Airlines

Say, a bit off subject, but do you know if SAS still has shareholdings in BMI?

Yes, they have a 20% share in BMI.


and back to the topic. All the Scandinavian gov't own parts of SAS, just above 50% in total. The Swedish gov't owns 21,4%, while the Norwegian and Danish each owns 14,8%. However it can be classified as a rather passive ownership and they receive no support from any of the governments. I know both the Norwegian and Danish government for instance has deals with other companies on several routes and often use them instead of SAS.


User currently offlineABpositive From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

Indian airline, with its subsidiary Alliance Air, is fully owned by the Government of India.

Air India has an interesting set up in that the Government of India is a 49% share holder with an option to buy additional 2%.


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

In the Caribbean

Bahamasair
Caymanair
Air Jamaica
Caribbean Airlines ( Trinidad and Tobago the airline that replaced BWIA)
LIAT (50% owned by governments 50% by billionare Allan Stanford following the merger of his Caribbean Star and LIAT)
Cubana

Regards



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4050 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Until about 1988, AC was a wholly owned Crown Corporation of the Federal Government of Canada. There are some parties there (most notably the NDP) who feel it should be re-nationalized.


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User currently onlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 10):
Mohammed bin Rashed has a lot of involvement with the airline

he have more important things to do than Emirates, do not mix Emirates with Saudi Airline where Prince Sultan control everything from A to Z. He even want to privatize it and hold the majority


User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Air China is a fully owned government entity.


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User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 10):
Give me a break. There's no distinction between Emirates and other regional carriers. Mohammed bin Rashed has a lot of involvement with the airline. Call a spade a spade.

Sorry but you are wrong here. the Chairman is Sheikh Ahmed and he handles all the affairs of EK and not Sheikh Mohammad .... and EK is an investment project and returns a profit. The Government does NOT pump any sort of money into it. It is a profitable company. It is doing extremely well and no one can believe that ...so that is why people insist that it is govt supported. The Govt does not pump any money.... EK is doing fine on it's own


User currently onlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4578 times:

Quoting EK156 (Reply 19):
Sorry but you are wrong here. the Chairman is Sheikh Ahmed and he handles all the affairs of EK and not Sheikh Mohammad .... and EK is an investment project and returns a profit. The Government does NOT pump any sort of money into it. It is a profitable company. It is doing extremely well and no one can believe that ...so that is why people insist that it is govt supported. The Govt does not pump any money.... EK is doing fine on it's own

i second that

i dont know why some people not accepting that there is a successful company, is it a matter of being jealous?!


User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

huh? Jealous? More like you Imaratis being defensive.

I wish your country and airline all the best. I have no problem with you being successful, what I have a problem with is UAEflyer going out of his way to depict Emirates in one camp and all the other airlines in the region in another camp. That's bullshit. Emirates is a government owned and controlled airline. Why can't you admit that?

Anyway I'm out of this conversation, I have a feeling it would be a deaf's debate.


User currently onlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 21):
huh? Jealous? More like you Imaratis being defensive.

I wish your country and airline all the best. I have no problem with you being successful, what I have a problem with is UAEflyer going out of his way to depict Emirates in one camp and all the other airlines in the region in another camp. That's bullshit. Emirates is a government owned and controlled airline. Why can't you admit that?

Anyway I'm out of this conversation, I have a feeling it would be a deaf's debate.

i do agree you should be out of this, because all you have is misleading information about Emirates, and yes we are very defensive for right not for "bullshit" which you like to use against us.

Emirates is on one camp and that is a fact, Thanks God we live in same region but our mentality is much advanced and modernized than our neighbours.
If we go further than that the moderator will use his red cards!  scared 


User currently offlineTYCOON From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 393 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Not to take sides on this, but if the question is state ownership than HiJazzey is right UAEflyer as you state that Emirates is government owned, albeit indirectly. Government ownership does not necessarily mean subsidization. Nothing wrong with government's investing in airlines. Air France-KLM has a minority shareholding indirectly by the French state and it is very profitable (but as we all know, it hasn't always been profitable).

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6844 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4500 times:

We got 2 government airlines... Garuda Indonesia and Merpati... add to that, the state oil company has an airline too, Pelita... so, 3 government airlines here...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

Government of Finland is the majority owner in Finnair, and as far as I have understood it, they are not going to give it up. What a shame, in my mind, and that kind of principle doesn's belong to today's Europe.

25 777jaah : Satena is the commercial branch of Colombia's Air Force, si its 100% owned by our goverment. Surprisingly, is a nice airline with a nice, modern a eff
26 Garri767 : Wasn't gabon air owned by the government? Garri767
27 FURUREFA : The french government owns 44% of AF-KL. Matt
28 Vlada : JAT Airways is 100% owned by Government of Serbia. Regards, Vlada
29 SpeedbirdEGJJ : Aurigny (GR) is owned by the States of Guernsey, the 'government' of the Island so i guess they'd qualify. The matter is however a touchy subject in t
30 Greenair727 : I believe SAA is heavily subsidized by the South African government.
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