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Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?  
User currently offlineQuetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

A friend of mine suggested to me recently that if I want to fly on an IL-62 for the first time, then my time is running out.

He stated that the Russian authorities had revoked authority to produce new spare parts for this aircraft - or something to that effect?

Can anyone elaborate?

If so, (and I know a similar thread was posted - almost a year ago now, but updated info would be nice) what kind of routes/operators are still available? I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?


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User currently offlineEGBJ From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 498 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

From Wiki....

"In August 2006 a total of 88 Ilyushin Il-62 aircraft remain in airline service. Major operators include: TAAG Air Angola (4), Air Koryo (4), Interavia Airlines (3), Dalavia Far East Airways (7), Air Kokshetau (3), Domodedovo Airlines (17), Rossiya (8), Uzbekistan Airways (5) and Cubana (11). Some 16 other airlines also operate smaller numbers of the type"


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4675 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Quoting EGBJ (Reply 1):
TAAG Air Angola (4)

I believe that's incorrect. The latest photo from the database is from 1997. You bet the spotters would have photographed them since then ! Also, they ordered Boeings to replace them.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
A friend of mine suggested to me recently that if I want to fly on an IL-62 for the first time, then my time is running out.

He stated that the Russian authorities had revoked authority to produce new spare parts for this aircraft - or something to that effect?

Yes, your time is running out. But I don't think it's for the reason your friend stated. The IL-62 is simply being withdrawn because of its horrible economics.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
If so, (and I know a similar thread was posted - almost a year ago now, but updated info would be nice) what kind of routes/operators are still available? I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?

SU flew them weekly (or every 2 weeks) on the SVO-LAD route, but I can't find the flight anymore. Domodedovo Airlines flies them to the Far East, e.g. DME-GDX (Magadan). Cubana might also be a possibility.


Edit: Amadeus shows the SU SVO-LAD flight as a Tu-154M. That puzzles me, because it can't fly the route nonstop. Maybe an error ?

[Edited 2007-02-19 12:15:14]


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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

Do SU still have that single IL62 laying about?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 3865 times:

Your best bet is Cubana. TAAG hasn't had them for a while in active service and I don't think Uzbekistan has either, to fly the Air Koryo models you need to be on an official tour of the country as independent travel is banned, and in Russia although there are several flights still flown on them they almost all operate weekly and to some very remote Siberian destinations which could well be a little daunting if you don't speak the language well. Cubana though does have a good sized fleet and operate regular flights on them throughout the Caribbean, plus it's reasonably inexpensive to get there and the flights are reasonable; some of the Russian ones I looked at were well over a thousand pounds return!


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

Funnily enough, I was having a look through the December OAG pocket guide and there is an IL62 service running from Dubai to Kinshasa. Cannot remember the name of the airline, but it began with "N". Much as I would like to fly on a 62 ...

User currently offlineQuetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Kinshasa... bring it on!

The crazier the better.

I myself was reading a guidebook about the Russian Far-East today and for the first time heard about Magadan. Whilst adventurous, it sounds like an amazing place. Willing to look at ALL of the available options, dream at first, and then actually start to form a 'realistic' plan. If a 62 gets me there, even better.

Kaitak, if you could find out 'who' is operating that DXB-Kinshasa flight?? Would be tops....



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User currently offlineLxlgu From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

Hi A342!

SV operate the TU154 MOSCOW JEDDAH LUANDA

Cheers!
Tony


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 3580 times:
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Quoting EGBJ (Reply 1):
"In August 2006 a total of 88 Ilyushin Il-62 aircraft remain in airline service. Major operators include: TAAG Air Angola (4), Air Koryo (4), Interavia Airlines (3), Dalavia Far East Airways (7), Air Kokshetau (3), Domodedovo Airlines (17), Rossiya (8), Uzbekistan Airways (5) and Cubana (11)

Cubana has 11 Ilyushin 62?????  Confused No, Wiki is wrong.

Quoting Lxlgu (Reply 7):
SV operate the TU154 MOSCOW JEDDAH LUANDA

Yes, once a week. What an experience!!!!  Wow!

Hi Quetzal,

As Plymspotter said, your best option is Cubana. Is the last airline with scheduled flights authorised in EU to operate the IL6. CU uses to fly in summer season twice a week the HAV-LPA route with this aircraft. Other routes are from HAV to EZE with an intermediate stop at CCC or CYO. MEX and SDQ are, too served with IL6.

TAAG retired from its fleet the last IL62 in 2005 and was sold to a russian airline. I don't remember the name... And Uzbekistan not flies it since the arrive of the 752's.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
I believe that's incorrect. The latest photo from the database is from 1997. You bet the spotters would have photographed them since then ! Also, they ordered Boeings to replace them.

The Boeing 747-300 replaced them. Now they are going to replace the 743 with 772. 732 to be replaced with 737NG.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 3):
Do SU still have that single IL62 laying about?

Not for scheduled operation. The LAD flights used to have been operated with a Rossia IL6.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?

Outside Russia the best option would be the twice weekly Cubana SDQ-HAV vv run or PEK-FNJ vv which is also twice a week.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 8):
CU uses to fly in summer season twice a week the HAV-LPA route with this aircraft

Afraid I don't think they are operating this flight this year, I can't find it on Amadeus, but hopefully it's just not been added yet. Would have been great, as last year it was the last IL-62 flying trans-Atlantic.


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 8):
As Plymspotter said, your best option is Cubana. Is the last airline with scheduled flights authorised in EU to operate the IL6.

Not so. SNN sees Rossiya IL62s on charter flights to both the Caribbean and the Canaries, often from Murmansk, 2 or 3 times a month in the winter, this winter being no exception. These flights are in addition to the regular flights to the US on Government business to the UN and the odd time to Washington

[Edited 2007-02-19 19:41:10]

User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

HAV - BOG is also flown with IL-62 once weekly.
I saw it approaching some day and it was one of the sexiest Aviathings I've seen.



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User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

I have just been checking out the Cubana website and I see that you could take an IL-62 from HAV to SDQ on 2/22 in business class for only $290.
That's not bad at all.
I think I will have to look into doing a trip like this.



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User currently offlineLCFreeman49 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

Jeremy,

I would be interested in making a trip on an IL62 as well. I am a pilot as well as an aviation buff. If you are interested email me.

Charles



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1795 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 15):
Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!

Can't US Citizen ask, not to stamp their passports? Basically you should be fine then, right? I only know that Cuba doesn't care if US Citizen visite their country, the other way around would be another story.



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User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2910 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 15):
Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!

Not quite sure yet how they do it, but when I was in Mexico recently there were a large group of Americans flying over to Havana.



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1795 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

Swissgabe...I have no idea if you can do that or not, but perhaps somebody else here knows?

Jeremy...Yes, there are many Americans going into Cuba, but usually, it under special circumstances that are pre-approved by the State Department. However, I think my request for going to Cuba just to ride on the IL-62 might wind up buying me a ticket to the insane asylum!


User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

No more IL62 in service for TAAG.

The only 2 regular "National" airlines to operate the IL62 on schedulled flights are CUBANA DE AVIACION (Cuba) and AIR KORYO (North Korea).

The IL62 is still operated by amny "private" airlines of countries from the former Soviet Union, many of them were inherited from Aeroflot after the "burst" of the USSR, or sold as second hand aircraft.
Even those airlines, biggest operators of the IL62 are now replacing them mostly by Western aircraft , such as VIM (B757).

The Russian Government is now probably the last biggest operator of the Great beautiful IL62 ...


User currently offlineMilesDependent From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Am flying an IL62 on 7 April PEK-FNJ and I can't wait. Just hoping they don't sub it for a TU-154... Then on 11 April flying FNJ-SHE on hopefully the TU-154 (very unlikely they'd sub this for IL-62)

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Try Cubana's IL-62
Not sure if they still fly to Cancun but when they did (2001), it was only $175 roundtrip to Havana.
Cubans love to see Americans come and visit. It's our governemnt that has a problem with us going down there.

Cubana's service was really good also.

I took this photo. It was the first IL-62 interior shot added to the database.


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