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CO To Add More MSY-EWR Service  
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4950 times:

Eff. 4/3, CO will be adding a 4th daily nonstop between MSY and EWR, to be operated by CO Express/ExpressJet.

It'll be a 5:09pm arrival from EWR with a 5:40pm departure.

This is what CO's MSY departure schedule will look like as of 4/3:


5:38a IAH 733
6:30a IAH 738
6:35a EWR 733
7:00a IAH 738
7:55a IAH 738
8:30a IAH ERJ
9:15a IAH 739
10:15a EWR 73G
10:40a IAH 73G
11:15a CLE ERJ
12:00p IAH 735
1:20p IAH 735
2:50p EWR 733
3:05p IAH 739
4:30p IAH 735
5:40p EWR ERJ
5:46p IAH 738
6:55p IAH 738

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5700 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4939 times:

Now thats an absolutely beautiful schedule right there, although perhaps one more rotation to CLE would be good as well?


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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4903 times:

no more 753  crying 


Oh well, glad to see CO is still committed to MSY


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4868 times:

A daily ERJ to CLE? Meh... I wish they'd bump that up to at least 1 735. Wish they had a later flight to IAH... like 8pm or so.


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User currently offlineMilemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4814 times:

I flew MSY last week and was amazed how deserted that airport was. Good to hear someone is increasing service.

User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4805 times:

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 3):
A daily ERJ to CLE?

IIRC, pre Katrina, they didn't fly mainline between MSY/CLE it was only express jet..... don't think we'll see it in the near future...



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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

And there was much rejoicing-yaaaaay! (insert Terry Gilliam animation of minstrels waving little flags here) Always glad to hear when you guys get another addition at MSY.

Jim



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 2):
no more 753

It's seasonal....it'll likely be back for the Summer.

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 3):
A daily ERJ to CLE? Meh... I wish they'd bump that up to at least 1 735. Wish they had a later flight to IAH... like 8pm or so.

They had 2x ERJ to CLE before Katrina. 1x is a good compromise for now I think. It'll likely go double daily before too long. 735 is probably overkill right now.

Quoting N353SK (Reply 2):
Oh well, glad to see CO is still committed to MSY

Yes, we all are. They have flat out owned the MSY-Houston O&D market as of late. And they'll be the clear market leader again in MSY-NYC service.


User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

It is still hard to believe how much WN shunned MSY. A lot of people may have left MSY after Katrina, but most of the evacuees weren't business travelers. That area has a huge encatchment area..... it is sad. Hopefully CO and XE with its new service will help spark Moisant a little.

User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4711 times:

Hopefully the folks in the N.O. area will return CO's loyalty and committment when other carriers who have been slower to rebuild their service there eventually return (with "welcome us back" promotional pricing). Unfortunately, in most cases, corporate loyalty goes unrecognized in the face of fares that are a dollar or two lower.


"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

Quoting PExDCA (Reply 9):
Hopefully the folks in the N.O. area will return CO's loyalty and committment when other carriers who have been slower to rebuild their service there eventually return (with "welcome us back" promotional pricing). Unfortunately, in most cases, corporate loyalty goes unrecognized in the face of fares that are a dollar or two lower.

Well, it's interesting because initially, WN really made an effort to let people here know that they were back...with "we're with you, new orleans, as you rebuild" billboards popping up in different areas. Those have been down for quite some time now, and WN has not added one new flight in here since June. Other airlines have, and if you look at the ticket counters these days, you'll see consistent lines at AA...DL...CO....FL...but not WN. My feeling is that they had the chance to really show what they were made of in terms of loyalty to the area, but they let it pass, and now other airlines are seeing some of WN's former passenger base head their way.


User currently offlineMSYguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
8:30a IAH ERJ

Interesting. I didn't realize CO was servicing any of the IAH flights with RJs. I've never seen an MSY flight in the B terminal at IAH (but I guess it's been awhile, now that I think about it, and with just one per day, the opportunity would be rare, in any event).

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
y feeling is that they had the chance to really show what they were made of in terms of loyalty to the area, but they let it pass, and now other airlines are seeing some of WN's former passenger base head their way.

I was just looking at WN's interactive route map, which I hadn't done in awhile. In their defense, if you look at non-stop options out of places like AUS, TUL, OKC, IND, SAT, BHM, the number of destinations served is comparable to MSY (within 4 of the number of available nonstop destinations). That said, WN's offerings at MSY are radically less than what was available pre-storm.

Further to your point, the routing options on WN out of MSY are so poor these days, there is really no reason to choose them over another carrier unless you are flying to one of their nonstop destinations. Apart from the nonstops, you're generally going way out of your way (frequently to HOU to get to a destination that is east of MSY or to TPA or MCO to get to the Northeast); it's no surprise that MSY pax are eschewing WN.

P.S. Don't mean to turn every thread into a gripe about WN's service reductions here; it's just a topic that interests me.


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 3):
A daily ERJ to CLE? Meh... I wish they'd bump that up to at least 1 735. Wish they had a later flight to IAH... like 8pm or so.

While I'm sure this won't appease you, I should point out that CO785 CLE-MSY is on a 735.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 2):
glad to see CO is still committed to MSY

As are we, this airline is amazing!

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 3):
I wish they'd bump that up to at least 1 735

Quoting HPAEAA,reply=5:
pre Katrina, they didn't fly mainline between MSY/CLE it was only express jet


CLE-MSY was a 735 for years before Katrina, and was a double-daily ERJ leading up to the storm.

Quoting XJET (Reply 8):
A lot of people may have left MSY after Katrina

....careful with this

Quoting XJET (Reply 8):
but most of the evacuees weren't business travelers

or travelers at all!
UNO did an interesting study in 2002: in the 3rd, 7th, and 9th wards-- nearly 27% of the individuals had never left Louisiana, nearly 40% had never left the DeepSouth (LA, MS, AL, FL [geographically], GA), and nearly 94% of them had never left the USA.

(and before anyone takes a stab at MSY's lack of intercon nonstops using the aforementioned information, keep in mind that that'd be like attempting to extrapolate LAX's int'l potential using data from SouthCentral  Yeah sure)

Quoting XJET (Reply 8):
will help spark Moisant

....ooooooooh, that's a name that hasn't been heard in a while  Wink

Quoting PExDCA (Reply 9):
Hopefully the folks in the N.O. area will return CO's loyalty and committment when other carriers who have been slower to rebuild their service there eventually return

I'm living testimony to that, and MSYTristar can vouch for it:
Just paid $406 more to connect in IAH to TPA, on a 737 (which I usually go well outta my way to avoid flying) just to support CO and avoid giving WN money for my nonstop to TPA in April. Yes it sucks to spend more for a 1stop, but it'd be even worse IMO to support that airline after the way they've handled our market.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
and WN has not added one new flight in here since June

For the sake of further clarification:
WN has not added one (OF ANY KIND OF) flight in here since June 2006... not just "new" ones
(yes Steve, I knew what you meant, just bringing the point home  Wink)

Quoting MSYguy (Reply 11):
've never seen an MSY flight in the B terminal at IAH

Seen a few. The late-nights (11pm+) used to be RJs.... and then they went 738/757 pre-K!


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 13):
Quoting PExDCA (Reply 9):
Hopefully the folks in the N.O. area will return CO's loyalty and committment when other carriers who have been slower to rebuild their service there eventually return

I'm living testimony to that, and MSYTristar can vouch for it:
Just paid $406 more to connect in IAH to TPA, on a 737 (which I usually go well outta my way to avoid flying) just to support CO and avoid giving WN money for my nonstop to TPA in April. Yes it sucks to spend more for a 1stop, but it'd be even worse IMO to support that airline after the way they've handled our market.

Would this make you the exception that proves the rule?  spin 



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlineNateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 13):
Just paid $406 more to connect in IAH to TPA, on a 737 (which I usually go well outta my way to avoid flying) just to support CO and avoid giving WN money for my nonstop to TPA in April. Yes it sucks to spend more for a 1stop, but it'd be even worse IMO to support that airline after the way they've handled our market.

That is absurd.

Do you really expect WN to fly unprofitable routes from MSY?

As a former New Orleanian, I too am dissapointed in the slow pace of "recovery" in all sectors, but don't blame WN for this. They are still the largest carrier at MSY and still offer non-stop service to the most cities. Do you really think that WN could still make make money on a non-stop flight to SAN or IND? I doubt it, neither are servied non-stop from HOU either. People in MSY just need to accept that the situation there has changed for the worse and airlines will not restart service until economic conditions justify it. CO has been bring service up to pre-Katrina levels because they are a network carrier whose hub in Houston has extremely strong business and social ties to New Orleans.

My advice: save your money and your time and fly Southwest.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Quoting PExDCA (Reply 14):
Would this make you the exception that proves the rule?

I may be among the more dramatic examples, but based on what (limited) interaction I've had with other MSY-roadies, I'm certainly not the only one.

That, and quite a few are flying out of BTR more lately; which is a testament to that airport's effort to reduce fares/gain destinations, but I don't really like (as per moi) as it further weakens MSY's O&D


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4361 times:

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):
My advice: save your money and your time and fly Southwest.

Sometimes in life there is a financial cost associated with following your conscience. There is a lot of truth to the expression "we speak with our wallets".

I'm not saying that there are not considerations on both sides of this issue, but your response illustrates what I attempted to point out in my initial post on this thread... if you want any company (not just airlines) to expand in a given market you need to reward them with your continuing patronage, not only when they offer a lower price, but when sometimes it costs more as well.

In this case it appears that CO is investing in the rebuilding of air service in N.O. and it's kind of refreshing to see (at least one person) returning the investment.



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlineMSYguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):
Do you really expect WN to fly unprofitable routes from MSY?

No. But many of the routes no longer served could be profitable.

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):
People in MSY just need to accept that the situation there has changed for the worse and airlines will not restart service until economic conditions justify it.

Current demand levels warrant additional service; the market is underserved. No one here is expecting to have what we had before (certainly, if you've spent anytime here post-K, you know that). For my part, I just want the service reductions to correlate with the actual drop in demand; WN has gone much further.

Are you suggesting that a market like MSY/BHM, which had about 700 seats per day pre-storm, couldn't support a single flight now (which is presently the situation thanks to WN, but not for long, thanks to XJET)? Do you think the loss of that city pair entirely reflects "economic conditions"? The answer is no. It reflects WN's decision to use its aircraft elsewhere. Which, of course, is their right. But call it what it is; don't attribute it to "economic conditions."

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):
CO has been bring service up to pre-Katrina levels because they are a network carrier whose hub in Houston has extremely strong business and social ties to New Orleans.

And the additional flights to EWR? What's the explanation for those? Could it be that CO is *profitably* flying routes from MSY?


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4326 times:

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):

My advice: save your money and your time and fly Southwest.

...your advice has been:
heard
taken into consideration
denied


I'd rather spend the extra any day to reward a company looking out for us than to do so for one that's done all but shove a cedar trunk up our collective recta then brag about it.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 19):
I'd rather spend the extra any day to reward a company looking out for us than to do so for one that's done all but shove a cedar trunk up our collective recta then brag about it.

Amen, brother!

I think WN sort of expected the general population of the Greater New Orleans area to just sort of take what WN will give them on account of past loyalty. The people here are smarter than that. This is '07, not '05, and make no mistake about it...even though they may still have the most flights from MSY (not by that many), WN is no longer the can-do-no wrong darling of this airport. That ship has sailed.


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

I always thought it was B.S. how CO flies ERJs from EWR-MSY post-katrina. I know before the tragedy CO was flying 73Gs on this route, and afterwards scaled back service on this route. Glad to hear that they are adding because it is due. CO is way more capable of filling up larger aircraft on this route.


"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

Bravo it good to see more flts into MSY.


Belize my home sweet home...
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 21):
Glad to hear that they are adding because it is due. CO is way more capable of filling up larger aircraft on this route.

Actually just this month they replaced the last ERJ with a 733 on the route. I'm sure in time the new ERJ flight will go to 735/33. The EWR flights are always full or oversold from here every day.


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 19):
I'd rather spend the extra any day to reward a company looking out for us than to do so for one that's done all but shove a cedar trunk up our collective recta then brag about it.

So, the solution is to NOT fly an airline that offers non-stop service to the city you want to go to, and to spend $400+ MORE to one-stop it on an airline that does NOT fly non-stop to where you want to go? All in order to "make a point" about how the airline that offers non-stop service to the city you want to go has not been "good" to MSY?

Hmmm.. that will show WN. Hell, maybe they'll pull out of MSY altogether if enough people do that. Wouldn't that be great?

Give me a break. WN has better opportunities at IAD, DEN and (soon) SFO. Those are all post-Katrina additions to the route network that need airplanes. I'm sure there are a number of cities in WN's network that have not seen additional flights since last June.

Yay on CO, but to bash WN is ridiculous.


25 Post contains images PExDCA : LOL. Sounds like you have managed to summarize the business case for every frequent flyer program in 50 words or less!
26 MSYtristar : Nope, not ridiculous at all IMO. You'd have a different outlook on the situation if you lived here most likely. ConcordeBoy is right on for supportin
27 Ejmmsu : Its a shame when the airline that offers the most flights from an airport gets labeled as "not being commited to our airport"... that doesn't make any
28 XJET : If everyone felt the same as these two guys in MSY, WN would HAVE to close the station. MSY is a strange situation. I actually understand the sentime
29 MSYtristar : At this point, it's sort of like whatever, you know? If they add flights, if they decrease flights, if they stay the same....whatever. No one really
30 Tommy767 : Well thats good to hear. I hope sometime in the future CO will ring in the decision to bring the international 752s down to MSY for some daytime turn
31 Post contains images PExDCA : Maybe they are leaving some market share for Air Gumbo to pick up?
32 Travelin man : I'm sure you are emotional about it, but it is not at all a rational argument. What you "feel" WN's service levels "should" be is irrelevant. But if
33 MSYguy : I don't speak for the others, but I'm not saying I don't want WN around. I am saying that they have elected to deploy their assets elsewhere, despite
34 MSYtristar : Um, no. I really don't care what they do at this point. But don't expect me to support them. They shouldn't put up "we're with you, NOLA..." billboar
35 Post contains images XJET : Wow!! I hadn't thought about those guys for quite some time!
36 MSYtristar : Oh you need to check out airgumbo.com then....they want to fly A330's to Europe now.
37 Travelin man : Umm.. the other cities also did not have a MASSIVE decrease in their populations (and associated tourism) in the past two years. See the correlation?
38 XJET : That is very interesting indeed! Has MSY ever had serivce across the Atlantic on a scheduled basis? I wonder where Air Gumbo would fly. CDG?
39 Tom in NO : The metro NOLA population has slipped from 1.5 million pre-K to 1.3 million currently. While such a decrease is noteworthy, it shouldn't be called a
40 MSYtristar : The only massive decrese in population was from Orleans parish itself...and most of those displaced were not exactly frequent flyers. Metro area is a
41 TransWorldSTL : Travelin Man, It's not worth it. Everyone else on this board realizes why WN chooses not to come back full strength to MSY, except for these few peop
42 FlyPNS1 : WN's decision to cut 50% at MSY isn't solely just to favor other cities. It's partially just because demand is lower at MSY. And if WN can make more
43 MSYtristar : And you base that upon what? Do you work in revenue management for an airline? Not at all. But it's more than 10. There's just 10 of us on this board
44 MSYtristar : For the umpteenth time....this is getting tiring....they can put the planes where they want to. It's their business to run. No one is questioning tha
45 Travelin man : I guess revenue management at WN made that decision.
46 MSYtristar : ' Absoultely they did. The airline's priorities have changed. They have chosen to move on to othe roppurtunities....perhaps not better oppurtunities,
47 Tom in NO : Actually chief, you can make that 9.....I haven't flown domestically on anybody other than Southwest since April of 1996. Tom at MSY
48 Post contains images MSYtristar : I knew you'd jump in, Tom. Remember that classic -300 flight to LAX that you took? Needless to say there's not much excitement coming from B these da
49 Post contains images Ejmmsu : When I went to MSY, I rewarded NW with their 5 flight per day "dedication" to MSY
50 Post contains images MSYtristar : They are back up to a whopping 6 now if you can believe it...but they only had 8 before, so they're getting close.
51 FlyPNS1 : Let's see how long XJet really lasts. And if WN wants, they can blow XJet out of the water in a heartbeat. And CO's increased presence is still just
52 MSYtristar : I don't think that WN really wants to fight for MSY anymore. WN could have preempted XE's arrival by restoring BHM and JAX svc....but they didn't. BH
53 Post contains images Tom in NO : I'll be interested in that one myself.....in the event they don't last long and do go under, a lack of MSY traffic won't be one of the causes. Here's
54 Post contains images MSYtristar : Downgrading....oh heavens no....it's great news. It's just nice to see some activity in (or in this case on) the terminal. You, sir, are the man.
55 TransWorldSTL : Uh oh. Must mean WN doesn't care. Well, no one made you reply to it. Or make a separate post just for it either. I work in retail. Let me just say...
56 Post contains links and images Tom in NO : Plus the fact I can get some killer pictures from up there is an added bonus... Tom at MSY
57 Post contains images MSYtristar : For the record, you said it, not me. Well I feel justifiied to continue my quest to spread the truth. And the purpose of this post wasn't to talk abo
58 Ejmmsu : Much of the traffic into MSY before the hurricane was tourism and convention traffic. Have tourism and conventions fully recovered to pre-hurricane le
59 TransWorldSTL : Actually, I do. And the demographics are the exact reason my company is battling to get out of its contract with the New Orleans Gov't to have to reb
60 FlyPNS1 : Right now, I would agree with you. However, WN might change their mind down the road. But is it profitable demand? Sure, there may be lots of people
61 MSYtristar : Fair enough. I won't delve into the recent articles published stating that retail spending is at a near all time high in both Jefferson and St. Tamma
62 MSYtristar : No, not at all, but a lot of that has been replaced by more business-oriented travel...engineers, architects, government workers, construction labore
63 Travelin man : The question is not if demand is there. The question is whether the demand is MORE profitable than DEN, SFO, IAD, PHL, or the other stations WN has o
64 MSYtristar : Of course it all boils down to the $$$. No one on here from MSY has said anything differently. You'll just have to bear with us while we go through t
65 MSYguy : I think we've been pretty constructive about the issue. For you to disparage the constructive comments as bitching is unfortunate. I haven't seen one
66 TransWorldSTL : Not at all. It took me a few minutes to figure out what you were trying to say with your horrible grammar, but I got it.. Retail companies would alwa
67 MSYguy : Not worthy of a response -- other than, don't be a jerk. Your response to this ignores the fact that, when a seller of any kind must compete in a mar
68 N1120A : The airline must have lied to you about the airport you landed at, because MSY has been anything but deserted the last 2 weeks. Those are mostly extr
69 IAD51FL : At IAD they dont look like they are making much money..... quite a few of their afternoon flights are at about 1/2 cap. They cancel 1 or 2 MDW flight
70 Post contains images N1120A : We will know after the weigh the trash. A great deal now is business related, along with the rebounding tourist industry. That is illegal
71 MSYtristar : Now people are resorting to quasi insults (and not a very good one at that) to get their point across? Wow. Asm usual, MSYguy, you have proven that y
72 TransWorldSTL : You're taking the analogy way too far. I was speaking in terms of retail (clothing, etc) . Retail (clothing, etc) companies almost always sell their
73 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : National flew MSY-AMS/CDG with a DC10....BA flew MSY-LGW with a L15. Few corrections/additions here: NA flew MSY-AMS and MSY-ORY nonstop, this airpor
74 Ejmmsu : What do you mean by that, exactly?
75 ConcordeBoy : Quite simply that it's a perpetual cycle of cause & effect, wherewithin it's difficult for either to take the (necessary) initiative for advancement p
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