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User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Hi All,

I have an awkward question. I just viewed this video on YouTube.com and the person who posted it says it is from February of 1985. But I tend to think it is later than that.

It is a video about this man's Florida vacation and the first several minutes show a place at the gate, taking off, and landing. It is a US Air flight from Washington DC to Fort Lauderdale as seen by the take off scenery and the pilots wlecome to FLL PA.

That is where my first flag comes up.... According to my 1985 OAG's and the route maps on DepartedFlights.com US Air did not operate the Washington to FLL service much later when they made DC a focus city.

Link to 1985 Route Map:

http://www.departedflights.com/US110185.html

Link to first Route Map with Washington to FLL service from 1989:

http://www.departedflights.com/US100189.html

I know that smoking was still allowed on the flight as evident by the FA's PA before landing, but that could have been as late as Feb. 1990 since the no-smoking ban did not go into effect until the end of that month and prior to that date you could smoke only on flights 2 hours or greater (After 1988 law). This flight in the OAG is clearly over 2 hours. So the video could be from later.

Also, the Flight Attendant Uniforms, they are a modern navy blue. If I recall their uniforms were brown or tan in 1985. So abother reason the date seems off to me.

Please look at it and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZ_MSh_Q2c&mode=user&search=

Thanks for your help on this stupid question that seems to be eating at me.

TWA1985

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User currently offlineGeorgetown From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
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That's 85 alright. I can just tell by the cars, what's on the radio, etc. Kinda one of those things you had to live through (I'm guessing you may have been in diapers at the time?) Great freaking link though, brings me back to being a kid. By the way, we'll see you in the Big East tourney...you guys got a solid team this year.


Let's go Hoyas!
User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Wowsers...727s L-1011's and EASTERN A300s galore!


Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Hard to say for sure, but if it's not 1985 then he went through a lot of trouble piecing together the video. All the songs are pre-1985, the TV ads were for reruns of shows that ended before 1983, the newest car I saw was the 1985 model Chevy Cavalier and 1984 Camaro. The Pentagon proves the flight was before 1989, the old bus lines that ran underneath the building were closed in 1988 but are clearly visible in the takeoff.

The only thing that really bugs me is the audio. The quality is too good. Sure, this might be on 8mm film, but still...he must have done some serious audio editing to make that video come out as good as it did.

I might suggest that the flight connected through PIT. Nothing says the flight was non-stop. No Captain's voice on the first flight to compare.

Edit: Regarding the window shots, I guess he either booked the same seat on both flights (now who would do that?  scratchchin  ) or it was a continuing flight.

The other possibility is that it was a seasonal/promotional route that did not make the 1985 route map because it was not in effect in August, when the route map was printed.

[Edited 2007-02-20 07:21:46]


Send not to know for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee
User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

The vette that poped up was between and 84-89 then i saw one short dog caddy they came out in what 86??? so depending on the time of year it could have been late 85.. I noticed a pan-am 727 on take off but man those easterns looked good when he landed didnt they...like brand new..

It could very well have been 85 no later than 87 but gee did you see the other videos of the trip.. like pulling over and watching people... the elementary school was odd..



i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 6):
i saw one short dog caddy they came out in what 86???

The Seville Elegante came out in 1980.

edit: I was also surprised to see a Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon, those first came out in 1984 in limited numbers. First car I ever drove...

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 6):
I noticed a pan-am 727 on take off but man those easterns looked good when he landed didnt they...like brand new..

I liked seeing the 727s again...Brings back memories of sitting on the DC waterfront watching them line in one after another. Nice shot of the thrust-reversers too!

[Edited 2007-02-20 07:49:20]


Send not to know for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee
User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

This was the small sedan deville 86 87,,, when they looked like a box..

Now i saw it a while back in Atlanta a Pan-am 727 as i was boarding for memphis.. the pan am flight was going 30 miles south of memphis and 15 minutes from my home to the casinos in miss.. I wished i had walked over and bought
a ticket to Tunica..lol Never would i have dreamed anything like that flew in here.



i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Kind of neat to see DCA back in the 80s. The other videos bring me back to my childhood.


I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 8):
This was the small sedan deville 86 87,,, when they looked like a box

The ninth generation deVille, 85-88. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cadillac-Sedan-de-Ville.jpg
Since we're talking Cadillac, I noticed several Cimmaron on the road...I don't know about Florida, but in Virginia people hated those, by 1985 the early models were being traded in for just about anything else. The other thing I saw that was even more curious was the FWD Fleetwood Brougham, which just hit the streets in late '84. But the biggest teller was that there were no Ford Taurus, or they were carefully avoided by the camera. Those made a big entrance in December 1985, by Feb. '86 or '87 you could be sure one would have popped up.

That image of the DCA terminal is a nice comparison for the "historic" terminal of today. Did you see the big GA field just after liftoff? Now that's bringing back some memories! TWA was at the DCA terminal then too...Yes, Pan Am was there, but I only watched for their 747s at Dulles . Only chance to fly PA was from LAX to I think either DEN or PHX in 1975 or '76. I slept the whole trip...I still believe my mom slipped rum into my apple juice. But I flew TWA several times to see my dad in Missouri, joined their "FF" program when I was 12. Loved STL, hated EWR. (I can't remember why, I just did...probably had to do with how busy the gate agents were and the FA that gave me extra snacks when I transferred in STL...)



Send not to know for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee
User currently offlineCYLW From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

Quoting Electech6299 (Reply 7):
edit: I was also surprised to see a Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon, those first came out in 1984 in limited numbers. First car I ever drove...

The Omni/Horizon came out in 1978


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Wow, this is really interesting.

I agree, it could have been 1985.

But after some of you sugested that it could have been a one-stop, I looked that up as well in my Jan. '85 OAG as well as my Dec. '85 OAG and the one-stop service still did not esist from DC to FLL. That is what is bugging me here.

And the uniforms, they seem to be from the late 80's.

But who really knows, this will probably always remain a slight mystery.

TWA1985


User currently offlineLongHaul67 From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

This sure brings back good memories!
I went up and down those streets myself in Nov 87, and everything looks the same. Had a memorable flight from EWR into MIA on a CO DC10. It was almost empty for some reason and we were being tossed around by that warm and humid Florida air. Great stuff!  Big grin

[Edited 2007-02-20 17:08:14]

User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2151 times:

Anyone have a US Air Timetable from Feb. 1985 that could see if a flight existed from Washington DC to FLL (even as a one-stop)?

TWA1985


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

I wonder if the guy shot this with Beta or VHS. The videocameras back then were huge and one had to have a large battery pack slung around the neck when going mobile with it.

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6343 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 13):
I wonder if the guy shot this with Beta or VHS. The videocameras back then were huge and one had to have a large battery pack slung around the neck when going mobile with it.

Haven't watched "Back to the Future", have ya? JVC had consumer camcorders on the market in 1985...  Wink They are huge by today's standards, though.



Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
Haven't watched "Back to the Future", have ya? JVC had consumer camcorders on the market in 1985

Oooops totally forgot about that.
A friend of mine had a Beta cam back in '85 and it was heavy and bulky. You also had to lug around a large battery pack that was the size of a purse. My friends and I were envious because he had a video cam.


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

:D boy that brings back memories,,,lol cadilac cimmaron.. a freind of mine bought a brand new one from the dealership
and on the way home stopped real hard for a stop sign, and the entire windshield landed on the hood...



i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 16):
on the way home stopped real hard for a stop sign, and the entire windshield landed on the hood...

Ahh, the quality of American cars back then...



Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
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