TWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 647 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2194 times:
I have an awkward question. I just viewed this video on YouTube.com and the person who posted it says it is from February of 1985. But I tend to think it is later than that.
It is a video about this man's Florida vacation and the first several minutes show a place at the gate, taking off, and landing. It is a US Air flight from Washington DC to Fort Lauderdale as seen by the take off scenery and the pilots wlecome to FLL PA.
That is where my first flag comes up.... According to my 1985 OAG's and the route maps on DepartedFlights.com US Air did not operate the Washington to FLL service much later when they made DC a focus city.
I know that smoking was still allowed on the flight as evident by the FA's PA before landing, but that could have been as late as Feb. 1990 since the no-smoking ban did not go into effect until the end of that month and prior to that date you could smoke only on flights 2 hours or greater (After 1988 law). This flight in the OAG is clearly over 2 hours. So the video could be from later.
Also, the Flight Attendant Uniforms, they are a modern navy blue. If I recall their uniforms were brown or tan in 1985. So abother reason the date seems off to me.
Georgetown From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 232 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2158 times:
That's 85 alright. I can just tell by the cars, what's on the radio, etc. Kinda one of those things you had to live through (I'm guessing you may have been in diapers at the time?) Great freaking link though, brings me back to being a kid. By the way, we'll see you in the Big East tourney...you guys got a solid team this year.
Electech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
Hard to say for sure, but if it's not 1985 then he went through a lot of trouble piecing together the video. All the songs are pre-1985, the TV ads were for reruns of shows that ended before 1983, the newest car I saw was the 1985 model Chevy Cavalier and 1984 Camaro. The Pentagon proves the flight was before 1989, the old bus lines that ran underneath the building were closed in 1988 but are clearly visible in the takeoff.
The only thing that really bugs me is the audio. The quality is too good. Sure, this might be on 8mm film, but still...he must have done some serious audio editing to make that video come out as good as it did.
I might suggest that the flight connected through PIT. Nothing says the flight was non-stop. No Captain's voice on the first flight to compare.
Edit: Regarding the window shots, I guess he either booked the same seat on both flights (now who would do that? ) or it was a continuing flight.
The other possibility is that it was a seasonal/promotional route that did not make the 1985 route map because it was not in effect in August, when the route map was printed.
[Edited 2007-02-20 07:21:46]
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JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2108 times:
The vette that poped up was between and 84-89 then i saw one short dog caddy they came out in what 86??? so depending on the time of year it could have been late 85.. I noticed a pan-am 727 on take off but man those easterns looked good when he landed didnt they...like brand new..
It could very well have been 85 no later than 87 but gee did you see the other videos of the trip.. like pulling over and watching people... the elementary school was odd..
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2085 times:
This was the small sedan deville 86 87,,, when they looked like a box..
Now i saw it a while back in Atlanta a Pan-am 727 as i was boarding for memphis.. the pan am flight was going 30 miles south of memphis and 15 minutes from my home to the casinos in miss.. I wished i had walked over and bought
a ticket to Tunica..lol Never would i have dreamed anything like that flew in here.
Electech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2060 times:
Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 8): This was the small sedan deville 86 87,,, when they looked like a box
The ninth generation deVille, 85-88. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cadillac-Sedan-de-Ville.jpg
Since we're talking Cadillac, I noticed several Cimmaron on the road...I don't know about Florida, but in Virginia people hated those, by 1985 the early models were being traded in for just about anything else. The other thing I saw that was even more curious was the FWD Fleetwood Brougham, which just hit the streets in late '84. But the biggest teller was that there were no Ford Taurus, or they were carefully avoided by the camera. Those made a big entrance in December 1985, by Feb. '86 or '87 you could be sure one would have popped up.
That image of the DCA terminal is a nice comparison for the "historic" terminal of today. Did you see the big GA field just after liftoff? Now that's bringing back some memories! TWA was at the DCA terminal then too...Yes, Pan Am was there, but I only watched for their 747s at Dulles . Only chance to fly PA was from LAX to I think either DEN or PHX in 1975 or '76. I slept the whole trip...I still believe my mom slipped rum into my apple juice. But I flew TWA several times to see my dad in Missouri, joined their "FF" program when I was 12. Loved STL, hated EWR. (I can't remember why, I just did...probably had to do with how busy the gate agents were and the FA that gave me extra snacks when I transferred in STL...)
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TWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 647 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
Wow, this is really interesting.
I agree, it could have been 1985.
But after some of you sugested that it could have been a one-stop, I looked that up as well in my Jan. '85 OAG as well as my Dec. '85 OAG and the one-stop service still did not esist from DC to FLL. That is what is bugging me here.
And the uniforms, they seem to be from the late 80's.
But who really knows, this will probably always remain a slight mystery.
LongHaul67 From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 237 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
This sure brings back good memories!
I went up and down those streets myself in Nov 87, and everything looks the same. Had a memorable flight from EWR into MIA on a CO DC10. It was almost empty for some reason and we were being tossed around by that warm and humid Florida air. Great stuff!
Dc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1554 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14): Haven't watched "Back to the Future", have ya? JVC had consumer camcorders on the market in 1985
Oooops totally forgot about that.
A friend of mine had a Beta cam back in '85 and it was heavy and bulky. You also had to lug around a large battery pack that was the size of a purse. My friends and I were envious because he had a video cam.
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1631 times:
:D boy that brings back memories,,,lol cadilac cimmaron.. a freind of mine bought a brand new one from the dealership
and on the way home stopped real hard for a stop sign, and the entire windshield landed on the hood...