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L10's Coming To LAS!  
User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Although I cannot elaborate for fear of my life, there is word about the airport that 2x L15's will be based at LAS in the very near future. The a/c have been purchased fom the Middle East by a casino mogul for VIP flying to and from LAS and Macau. Th a/c are currently going through overhaul in preparation for the operation. Details to follow shortly!

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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Thread starter):
Although I cannot elaborate for fear of my life

Fear of your life? Over an aviation rumor?

Quoting Crownvic (Thread starter):
The a/c have been purchased fom the Middle East by a casino mogul for VIP flying to and from LAS and Macau.

I know Steve Wynn is building a casino in Macau - in fact, my cousin's husband is project manager for it. Not sure why Wynn would need 2 L-1011s for service between Vegas and Macau, but he's got a little more money than me, so I guess he can do what he wants.


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

HPLASOps....This is Vegas Pal...You didn't know that they still break knee caps here if you "talk"  Smile

User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6666 times:

LAS-MFM is 7319nm great circle. Can a L1011 make that distance? Lots of extra fuel tanks I guess.

User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6654 times:

On the eastbound, Sheldon's 76 can make LAS nonstop, but I doubt it on the L15. Because these are VIP a/c with lower pax counts, the nonstop will probably be based on weather conditions meaning that westbound winter nonstops would not work and summer being very questionable. I believe on the eastbound, they can make it pretty much year-round.

User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 2):
HPLASOps....This is Vegas Pal...You didn't know that they still break knee caps here if you "talk"

I've met my share of VIPs in my time here, never once has anyone threated my life over a rumor. Besides, there isn't much that old blind fart Wynn can do secretly anymore. If he takes a piss, it's news.


User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6637 times:

Yea I'm thinking they're going to have to stop in Japan or something. It should be able to make 5500nm LAS-NRT considering its max fuel + few pax.

User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6626 times:

HPLASOps...It's not Wynn!

User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6609 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 7):
HPLASOps...It's not Wynn!

Who else qualifies as a "casino mogul rich enough to purchase 2 L-1011s for VIP travel between LAS and MFM?" Can't be a very long list, no?


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6595 times:

Can you say Sandy?? He is also building a few casinos in Macau.

Hey CV
I don't suppose we will see a new L1011 from GJ to commerate these beauties, will we?  Wink



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User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6595 times:

Indeed, the only two moguls left in LV are Adelson and Wynn. Everything else is coporations. And I am inclined to belive its Wynn too. Hopefully Steve wont put his elbow through the airframe  Wink

User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6581 times:

Garudarod...Go to sleep..It is past your bed time!

User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1086 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6537 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1):
I know Steve Wynn is building a casino in Macau - in fact, my cousin's husband is project manager for it.



Seems the the project manager would have told you that the new Hotel has been open for a few months now.

Watch your kneecaps.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

Perhaps you are referring to the two ex-Saudia Royal Flight L-1011-500's that were purchased by the Las Vegas Sands Corporation? They are s/n 293A-1249 and 193G-1250, the last two L-1011's built, and both had previously been converted to VIP configuration. Their previous registrations were HZ-HM5 and HZ-HM6, they are now registered N388LS and N389LS.

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5055 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6225 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 5):
I've met my share of VIPs in my time here, never once has anyone threated my life over a rumor. Besides, there isn't much that old blind fart Wynn can do secretly anymore. If he takes a piss, it's news.

I just got off the phone with Wynn, and he was furious with your statement. He got so mad, he punched a hole in a Picasso. He said he was aiming for the knees! LOL!



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8675 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

I'm guessing its Wynn too. I just have to ask why L10's instead of 742's?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 15):
I'm guessing its Wynn too. I just have to ask why L10's instead of 742's?

MCOflyer

Maybe the 742's were too extravagant!


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6061 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1):
I know Steve Wynn is building a casino in Macau - in fact, my cousin's husband is project manager for it.

Well then I'm sure your cousin's wife told you Wynn Macau opened in September 2006.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6019 times:
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474218 already told you who it was.

Sands owns The Venetian and The Sands Macao.

Hardly a secret and there are facts to back it up.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 15):
I just have to ask why L10's instead of 742's?



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 16):
Maybe the 742's were too extravagant!

I take it neither of you has ever been on board an L-1011 in VIP configuration. They are every bit as luxurious as any 742, including AF1. Additionally, these two aircarft are very low hour and cycle, since both have been in VIP configuration since new.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5863 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 13):
Their previous registrations were HZ-HM5 and HZ-HM6, they are now registered N388LS and N389LS.

Will they still have the Chaff and Flare dispensers?

I miss HZ-HM6



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 20):
Will they still have the Chaff and Flare dispensers

I doubt it. I see the HF antennias have been removed from HM5, I heard the Comm center had been removed and while the ECM appears to be installed I would doubt that its is still opernational.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8675 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5749 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 19):
I take it neither of you has ever been on board an L-1011 in VIP configuration.

Correct, I've been on a DL l011, but that was years ago. Where are they getting spare parts from?

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 5):
If he takes a piss, it's news.

im pretty sure hes taken a piss in the last weekend and i didnt hear anything about it........ Smile



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5564 times:

N388LS should be over at SAT now. Apparently flew over on 13FEB OERK-SNN-SAT.
No sign yet of N389LS (haven't been tracking this one to be honest).

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
25 Crownvic : 474218...Thank you for bringing some intelligence into this thread! Unfortunately, people will still argue until they finally see the operators AOC!
26 FlyHoss : According to the FAA N-number database, N388LS does belong to the Las Vegas Sands Corporation but is already used on a Lear 35. Also according to the
27 Post contains images TZTriStar500 : No, N388LS is available and also reserved by Las Vegas Sands Corp. It was deregistered from the Lear 35A owned by AIRLAND L L C in 1998 and therefore
28 United_Fan : How do L10's handle hot & high conditions ? Should be nice to see them take off loaded up wgen it's 115 out!
29 Gigneil : Like most tris and quads, they handle it well. They have more energy available after an engine out so the legal weight limits are higher. NS
30 United_Fan : True,always fun to see Champions 727's use all of 25R to take off , with compressor bangs and all!
31 474218 : Crownvic, Just in case you haven't seen it N388LS L-1011-500 s/n 293A-1249 arrived McCarran direct from Shannon. Its the first of two L-1011-500 VIP a
32 Post contains images United_Fan : So where are they stashing it ? I don't think LAS has a hangar for a heavy,do they ? Wonder where they're gonna find crews current on L10's ? I meen,w
33 Jetjack74 : I chalk it up to ego which might be the only aircraft big enough to transport "it" around.
34 FlyingTexan : Most million dollar players are flown compliments of the casino on a chartered jet. Some even fly commerical - I saw a few million dollar level playe
35 Crownvic : 474218...Yes, there are some good pictures on jetphotos that I saw. Thank you
36 Post contains links Rotate : http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=&picid=3544 This baby really looks great .... , does anybody know how often there are going to fly?
37 MCOflyer : Boy she is a beauty. MCOflyer
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