Helvknight From Switzerland, joined Aug 2006, 995 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8307 times:
I'm sat in the departure lounge at LCY and they have closed the runway. There is an AF Avro at the end of the runway, aparently it burst a tyre on landing.
Flights are being cancelled left and right, I am just waiting for my LX flight to ZRH to follow suit
I've heard that a lot of the incoming traffic is being diverted to Southend.
Pilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1378 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8219 times:
This note has been posted on the LCY website:
London City Airport
We can confirm that an incident occurred at London City Airport this morning. The incident involved an Air France aircraft from Paris Orly flight number AF5020.
On landing at 08.35 the aircraft tyres burst. We can confirm the aircraft safely came to rest at the Eastern End of the runway and all passengers and crew on board have been safety transported to the terminal.
The runway is currently closed and we recommend all passengers travelling via London City Airport today contact their Airlines directly for further travel information.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3254 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7890 times:
As long as they don't send them to bloody Biggin Hill - I was stuck there for 6 hours once when VLM planes were diverted to there - the staff didn't even know that there were 4 buses of passengers arriving and hadn't got a clue how to cope.......
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7710 times:
Biggin Hill is the closest airfield to LCY and could handle any LCY size aircraft - outside of the terminal - which is designed for Biz-Jet pax. Any more than 10 people at a time causes a problem
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7433 times:
Hmmm, VLM, the biggest operator of LCY states at their website that no flights are possible till at least 14.00 GMT. After that they hope they can start their services again.
Is this true? Anyone at LCY with more info as to what time it will reopen?
KL911
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
Pilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1378 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7365 times:
Latest info. coming through the media channels are that LCY and Cityjet are discussing ways to move the aircraft off the runway, but given this happened at 8.35am this morning, and I make it 1.35pm, it sounds like the airline and airport haven't really planned for this type of event. Obviously if the wheel was badly shredded and damaged the fuselage, the CAA might have to be called in, but if it is just a burst tire, it seems they are making a bit of a mess of sorting it out.
Latest info is that the airport will be closed several more hour's, but I've no idea what time that info was released by the airport I'm afraid.
Compounding the problem is the fact that the plane is stuck at the eastern end of the runway, away from the terminal and ramp area, so it has to back track down the runway to get out of the way.
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7314 times:
It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?
Helvknight From Switzerland, joined Aug 2006, 995 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6975 times:
OK, I'm finally home.
Jeez what a journey.
What happened is that it was a Cityjet (AF/WX Bae 146 not Avro, sorry) flight, they had a problem with the brakes and the wheels locked. All 4 tyres burst.
I eventually left for LHR at about 11:30, talking to the girl on the check in desk they were going to have to bring in a crane to shift the plane, it wouldn't be at the airport till about 12:00, probably it wouldn't be moved till at least 14:00. In fact the wibsite says the runway wasn't clear and the airport reopened till 17:05.
It was chaos on wheels - no real info and a single ticket desk dealing with about 5 airlines including LX, you can imagine the queues - I waited 2 hours before I gave up and there were about 100 people in front of me. This is where I had a problem, there were no contingency plans that I could see of, they were even letting pax into the terminal although they weren't letting them check in. Before they cancelled my flight and I went landside the terminal area was jammed to the doors. (I was a bit amused when I and a few other cancelled passengers were challenged by the jobsworths when we exited the sterile area without putting our bags on the belt )
I went to LHR even though I had no rebooking, LX at LHR were pretty helpful and got me just about the last seat on the 13:50 flight. Finally got home 4 hours late.
IcLCY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 256 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6779 times:
Afraid not, the angle of the aircraft & major constuction projects on both the north & south sides of the dock blocked the best viewing areas for this(eastern) end of the runway.
LOL !
Then call in a squad of soldiers with explosives to blow off the fin !
Resembles the CI-incident at Kai Tak where that B744 overshot the runway ...
Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1672 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 6259 times:
Here's the last update from LCY web site
London City Airport can confirm that the airfield is now fully open for arriving and departing aircraft. The disabled aircraft, involved in the incident this morning, was recovered and removed from the runway at 17:04. As the aircraft was being towed the Airport’s Operations team conducted a full runway inspection, declaring the airfield open at 17:05.
As a result of the incident this morning, all airline services have been disrupted. London City Airport would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused and advise all passengers to contact their airline for further travel information.
The incident involved an Air France flight, operated by CityJet, from Paris Orly, flight number AF5020 (aircraft type BAe146 – 200).
On landing at 08.35 this morning the aircraft tyres burst. We can confirm that the aircraft safely came to rest at the eastern end of the runway and all 55 passengers and 5 crew were safely transported to the terminal.
London City Airport would like to thank the emergency services, who were stood down early this morning once the incident was declared safe, and airport and airline staff for their support in assisting the Airport to return to full operational status. Finally, we would like to thank all passengers affected by today’s incident for their understanding and patience
QantasA380 From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 212 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 6259 times:
Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 14): It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?
Not sure if this is what you're getting at, but having a second runway doesn't necessarily help with tyre bursts (although most parallel runway systems would be alright). In October 2005, a Thai A340-600 landed in Melbourne in strong crosswinds, burst a number of tyres and skidded along the runway (RWY16/34). The aircraft stopped on RYW16/34, but within the runway strip for the cross runway (RWY09/27)... which, naturally, closed the entire airport for a number of hours (the deep gash in RWY16/34 left by the wheel rims didn't help though).
Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 45 Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4803 times:
Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 14): It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?
I'm sorry, but this comment has really annoyed me. I work at LCY, and was watching and helping out with the recovery operation today. An airport like LCY does not have engineering support on-site. A specialist team from Stansted had to be called to LCY to help recover the 146.
We couldn't actually move the aircraft due to the weight put onto the gear, as all 4 main tyres had burst. The operation was done as quickly as possible, making safety the number one priority.
From 15:00 onwards, a shortened runway was opened for departing traffic only - but depending on size and weight of the aircraft.
At 18:00 the aircraft had been towed off of the runway and onto the western apron. The airport then re-opened.
Baron52ta From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4002 times:
Britain's airports have always been prone to this sort of trouble Manchester used to have this problem until they opened the second RWy one time a British Airways Concorde did the same, blew its mains which messed things up for hours. On another occasion a British Airtours 737 court fire and closed the airport for I believe a whole day.
Many of our airports have just one RWy so if things happen it closes the airport and there is nothing they can do about it.
Teneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 423 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
That british airtours incident that you are referring to resulted in many fatalties and as with any fatal accident the investigation takes time. This incident at LCY was minor in comparrison to that. BTW does anyone know how long MAN's runway was closed after the british airtours incident?
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