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Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?  
User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

Is a flight which originates within the U.K destined for JER a domestic route? I reckon yes, but my mate (a JER resident) reckons no.

Any ideas anyone?


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User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Jersey is a Crown Dependency and not part of the U.K (or EC), thus flights from the UK mainland are not classified as domesic and all passengers need to pass through customs and immigration.


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User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 1):
customs and immigration

...or is it just customs?

Travel between UK and Republic of Ireland/Channel Islands used to be called 'Common Travel' - BHX's late 1980s terminal was designed with a 'Common Travel Pier' for ROI and Channel Islands departures/arrivals because the formalities were different from travel to EC/International destinations

One or other (customs or immigration) had different requirements for pax departing to or arriving from these destinations, and I believe there was no immigration, just an identity document check - maybe someone knows more accurately what the rules are/were?



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

I have only ever travelled by ferry to Jersey, but did not need a passport and there was no customs or immigration, at least by sea.

Cheers
Noel


User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 1):
not part of the U.K (or EC)

Not part of the European Union (EU) - correct. EC=European Commission.


User currently offlineJER757 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Jersey is not a domestic destination, however as we are a crown dependancy no passports need to be shown at either end. We are not part of the EU so passengers must clear customs by going through the non-EU channel at airports, although this point seems to be lost on many who head straight for the green channel and rarely encounter any problems.

Interestingly, BA racognises us as a European route, hence why Club Europe and Euro Traveller are the two cabins offered. Domestic destinations lost the Club cabin many years ago.



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

The only reason I ask is I'm taking my daughter there Friday, but her passport has expired. Flying with Flybe and I rang them to ask what the "SP" was. They said that photographic I.D was not needed for her (or any child under 16) as long as the accomanying adult had photo I.D for himself and can vouch for the childs identity. That said, a birth certificate would suffice for her as it is, according to her, a domestic route.


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User currently offlineE195 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 191 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 6):
Flying with Flybe and I rang them to ask what the "SP" was. They said that photographic I.D was not needed for her (or any child under 16) as long as the accomanying adult had photo I.D for himself and can vouch for the childs identity. That said, a birth certificate would suffice for her as it is, according to her, a domestic route.

That is correct.
the easiest thing for us on the check in is to bring a birth certificate.
Most of the time its not realyl a problem for us

David



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Quoting E195 (Reply 7):
That is correct.
the easiest thing for us on the check in is to bring a birth certificate.
Most of the time its not realyl a problem for us

David

On the BE229 Thurs!!! Make sure you're at checkin to get me on o.k!!!



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User currently offlineE195 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 191 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1799 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 8):



Quoting Cumulus (Reply 8):
On the BE229 Thurs!!! Make sure you're at checkin to get me on o.k!!!

wish i could
im no longer a mere check in agent.

im dispatcher now!

BE229 thats the 0800 ish one i think, if so i wont be about as im on lates tomorrow, 1300 - 2130
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if you email me ill see what i can do. refering to the Private Message

David



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

The whole reason BA keeps the club cabin on that route is that it does very, very well. You can have 40+ passengers travelling in it, that's a lot of tray and champagne throwing I can imagine, kudos to BA crews who still serve a fantastic club product on a 30 minute flight, the shortest on the network,

Sam



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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Do you pay UK taxes from JER?

If not, what are the taxes like?


User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting JER757 (Reply 5):
BA racognises us as a European route, hence why Club Europe and Euro Traveller are the two cabins offered. Domestic destinations lost the Club cabin many years ago.

Thats not the case at all, it stems from the high yield's achieved in Club Europe at the time of the withdrawal of CE on domestics. If you work for us in JER you'll know who'm im refering to when i say PC was the driving force behind the decision. As it is now JER is the top performing CE route out of LGW at the minute so the decision is certianly vindicated.

To answer the original question, yes Jersey is a domestic destination, however as we are not in the EU, and as such are able to purchase duty free goods, there is still a need, amongst other reasons, to clear customs upon arrival. This is also the reason that Jersey arrivals take a different route at LGW than the other domestics.

Rgrds


User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 1617 times:

In short, my little girl travelled with no I.D at all (and none was asked for). The check in agent for Flybe at JER on the way back wasn't too sure as he was new but he was quickly told by the girl at the next counter it was ok.

Flight back was 22 minutes, fastest I've ever done it straight to ORTAC then over the west of the Isle Of Wight straight onto 02 at SOU!!! Took longer to board!!



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