Jetpixx From St. Lucia, joined Jul 2004, 933 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 17152 times:
What is the largest city (in terms of population/catchment area, etc) in the United States and then also the world which is heavily served by multiple airlines, but does not have true hub? Here are a couple of the ideas which came to my mind for the United States, although I certainly could be wrong.
EI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 411 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 17044 times:
The correct answer would have to be LAX. The 2 most populous counties in the country use LAX. It's a focus city for DL, AA, UA, and WN, but non of them have made it a hub. The SoCal metro area is one of the most populous.
DAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 16601 times:
Quoting Pelican (Reply 10): Berlin could be the biggest city in Europe without a hub.
It most certainly is, at least as far as the city itself goes Berlin is the second largest in Europe after London. Not sure what position they hold as far as entire Metro areas go, though Berlin should still be in front, behind the whole Ruhr area MSA.
Interestingly enough, the second place is hold by Hamburg. Most larger cities in Europe are hub cities for their repective carriers, and I believe outside of Germany and the UK, there are no 1,000,000+ cities in the EU that aren't airline hubs.
TYCOON From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16428 times:
Might be a bit nit-picky, but what is our definition of a hub?
Air Berlin and Germanwings certainly use Berlin as a base of operations/hub (I won't bother counting Easyjet but they do have quite the operation based in Berlin too)
Tuifly (ex. HLX) use Hamburg as a base/hub
And, technically, the new Brazilian LCC Webjet has GIG as its hub.
Are we talking flag-carriers or major operators?
Incitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4363 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16283 times:
Quoting TYCOON (Reply 14): Might be a bit nit-picky, but what is our definition of a hub?
A hub is an airport where an airline maintains a large presence AND it schedules flights in a way that there are many passengers that land there just to change airplanes.
An airport that is a crew/maintenance base is not a hub, even if the airline chooses to call it so.
I fail to see how Webjet Brazil would have a hub in GIG. They don't even have enough airplanes to have a hub anywhere.
The absolute right answer is LAX even though United Airlines calls it one of its hubs. The vast majority of United's passengers at LAX are local.
An airline scheduling 40 well timed flights at an airport may have it as a hub. Another airline scheduling 200 flights at an airport catering to local traffic without regard for convenient connections does not have it as a hub. I don't regard TAM's operation at GRU as a hub because the flight schedule is not convenient for connections.
N200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 786 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16015 times:
Quoting XJET (Reply 21): JAX is the most populated city in Florida. No hub there. It is a larger city than BOS. It is actually the third most populated city on the east coast.
Those kind of stats are always fun to throw around, just like El Paso is bigger than Atlanta and San Antonio is larger than Dallas. But metro area population figures are much more accurate and I think more fun to look at as they give you a better idea of how many people really live "there." San Antonio is now the seventh largest city in the country, but the problem is there just aren't that many of us living outside the city limits in the surrounding hills.