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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3093 times:
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Looks like HPN/JFK/MDT will be the first cities to see scheduled DH2 planes.

CLE - HPN - 0730-0915
HPN - CLE - 0935-1130

CLE - JFK - 1530-1725
JFK - CLE - 1750-2005

CLE - MDT - 1200-1315
MDT - CLE - 1335-1500


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User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Thread starter):

CLE - HPN - 0730-0915
HPN - CLE - 0935-1130

CLE - JFK - 1530-1725
JFK - CLE - 1750-2005

I think these two flights were previously E135 flights.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3054 times:
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yeah, all three of these flights were scheduled SRJ equipment.


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User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

i saw a MSN, CMH and an IND rotation in there as well..

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting RJNUT (Reply 3):
i saw a MSN, CMH and an IND rotation in there as well..

Yeah, CMH starts April 4th, and MSN, IND and SYR start May 6. Haven't found any others so far.


User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

hopefully they do better than Freedom's DH2 JFK operation...that will kill people's love of CO real fast!

I imagine Horizon must have taken good care of these birds!


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8191 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

Quoting RJNUT (Reply 5):
hopefully they do better than Freedom's DH2 JFK operation...that will kill people's love of CO real fast!

I'm sure it will. Commutair runs a good company, unlike Freedom, and these Dash-8s are well taken care of. They'll be just fine.



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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

I'd like to see how the 25 minute turn in JFK works for them.

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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Those are tight turns

User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

No, its not DH2, its DH8. Not much call for a round engined taildragger on scheduled flights.

User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

Quoting Erj-145mech (Reply 9):
No, its not DH2, its DH8. Not much call for a round engined taildragger on scheduled flights.

No, DH2 is the IATA code for a Dash-8 Series 200

Likewise, DH1 is the -100, DH3 is the -300, and DH4 is the -Q400.

DH8 is the IATA code for all series Dash-8 models.

Courtesy: your friendly neighborhood airlinecodes.co.uk



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User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 911 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

What date will the first service begin, and to what city?

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
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looks like March 13.............CLE-JFK


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 12):
looks like March 13.............CLE-JFK

JFK is getting that A/C because, at least what I heard, the bins on the DH-8 are larger than those on the ER3.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3923 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2646 times:
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never worked a prop plane before, so i cant vouch for bin space!!


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

A 25 minute turn shouldn't be an issue, as long as planning builds ground and taxi times into the flights. Turning the aircraft in 25 minutes itself is the easy part.

User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 476 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

two hour block time from CLE to JFK-- that's got some serious cushion in there. Bet the flying time, even in a turboprop, is 60 minutes-- assuming no ATC delays.

These planes are a big drop in capacity if when replacing the ERJ45.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Will ELM be a destination for the DH2 a/c?

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User currently offlineInTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Are you sure about that flight time?

I used to fly COEX from ABE-CLE when they had turboprob service, and it always took 90-100 minutes...


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8191 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 18):
I used to fly COEX from ABE-CLE when they had turboprob service, and it always took 90-100 minutes...

B1900s are alot slower, but yeah, ERJ takes about 1 hr to JFK, so figure 1:20 for a prop.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 17):
Will ELM be a destination for the DH2 a/c?

CommutAir closed ELM early in February.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 20):
CommutAir closed ELM early in February.

Thanks, I thought COEX still served that city.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineROCandTPA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Commutair will be starting SYR-CLE Dash8 Monday through Friday. Commutair has ended ROC-HPN and ROC-ELM, Commutair will drop ROC-CLE from 6 weekly to 1 weekly.

[Edited 2007-02-22 04:22:31]

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5364 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 16):
two hour block time from CLE to JFK--

How's that for progress? I believe UA used 2 hour CLE-IDL block times for their DC-6B's. The airlines, which used to sell speed, are now running the schedules of 50 years ago.

As stated in another thread, so far all the new Commutair Dash8 flights are replacing ERJ's - not B1900's.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 23):
How's that for progress? I believe UA used 2 hour CLE-IDL block times for their DC-6B's. The airlines, which used to sell speed, are now running the schedules of 50 years ago.

It's just smart. It's building in the fairly usual ATC delays that happen in/out of JFK. We have CLE-EWR flights that have like 1:50 block times, for that very reason.


25 XJRamper : Yeah its progress because that means the airlines are allowing for error into JFK. You are in the JFK system between 4p-10p be ready for massive dela
26 MasseyBrown : Today's block times may be "smart" and unfortunately they are a fact of life - but I don't know how you call them progress.
27 Falcon84 : It may not be progress, but it's better than a time 30 minutes less, and dealing with constantly being late.
28 Post contains images DAYflyer : Please send one to DAY....
29 COERJ145 : I've been on both, and while the bins are slightly smaller on the DH8, there is more overhead space overall than the ER3.
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