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Aeroflot Buy 5 Second Hand A330s  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5808 times:

http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actu...l_actu_marches.phtml?&news=3974528

Very sorry , only in French , unable to find a link in English.

Aeroflot will buy (or will receive ???) 2 second hand A330s in 2007 , and 3 in 2008, till 15 in the coming years .
They are very close a 22 A350s order , which should be announced before year end.
Is it the end of the SU announcements saga ?

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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

Is this 5 + 15 new or 5 + 10 new? Where are they going to get second A330s and what model?

User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

A330 in a lovely SU livery? I can't wait to see them. Are they 332 or 333?


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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2745 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5591 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 1):
Is this 5 + 15 new or 5 + 10 new?

It is 5 + 10 at a future date. Probably all used and/or leased.

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
They are very close a 22 A350s order , which should be announced before year end.
Is it the end of the SU announcements saga ?

Ahhhhh. . . don't we wish! Remember, this is about the exact same stage that Aeroflot was at last year. They had decided on what they were going to buy (x22 787 & x22 A350) and were just awaiting the government to act. They didn't. Will it happen this time? I'm not holding my breath.


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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5543 times:

Here's an English translation. It's my own (I don't trust BabelFish or other online translation sites) so forgive any errors.

Quote:

Aeroflot, Russia’s largest airline, has announced that it will acquire five, second-hand Airbus A330 between now and 2008 at the same negotiating a larger contract for new aircraft.

Aeroflot’s assistant general manager, Lev Koshliakov, told Reuters that the airline was planning on buying two, used aircraft this year, three next year, and up to a total of 15 in the coming years.

“There aren’t any new aircraft available for another 12 to 18 months but we’re continuing discussions with Airbus. We’re currently looking for second-hand A330s”, Mr. Koshliakov said.

Aeroflot wanted to buy at least 22 Boeing 787, costing between $2.5 and $3 billion, as well as an equal number of Airbus A350. Deliveries are expected between 2010 and 2012.

Moscow, however, has refused to authorize financing for these contracts. Any new aircraft will not be delivered before 2014 due to increased global demand.

On Wednesday, an inside source at Airbus told Russian press agency Interfax that the company was about to sign a contract for 22 A350. Koshliakov said that such an agreement could be announced within the year, refusing to comment further on the matter.

LH423



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31243 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5531 times:
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Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
Ahhhhh. . . don't we wish! Remember, this is about the exact same stage that Aeroflot was at last year. They had decided on what they were going to buy (x22 787 & x22 A350) and were just awaiting the government to act. They didn't. Will it happen this time? I'm not holding my breath.

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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
A330 in a lovely SU livery? I can't wait to see them. Are they 332 or 333?

Agreed. They are going to look incredible. The A330 seems to have a big tail, and that tail design of SU is going to be breathtaking on that.



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Here's what Aeroflot had to say, 2 weeks ago, about buying second hand aircraft.

http://www.kiplingerforecasts.com/ap.../XmlStoryResult.php?storyid=303579

Aeroflot wants new planes because "there are few A330s on the secondary market whose condition would satisfy us," the news agency quoted Okulov as saying. He said the first deliveries could take place in late 2008.

Also interesting is this...

Okulov said Aeroflot rejected a recent offer from Airbus and its parent European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. for A330s and A350s because the delivery schedule was unsatisfactory, and that the company expects to receive a new offer next week,

And then this yesterday...

The negotiations with Airbus have entered the final phase. The
concern has offered as early dates for starting the shipments as
possible, and although Aeroflot needs these planes even earlier, its
management understands that [Airbus] cannot make a better proposal," the
source said.

http://www.interfax.com/3/243349/news.aspx



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User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
A330 in a lovely SU livery? I can't wait to see them. Are they 332 or 333?

AFAIK 332.



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User currently offlineHimself From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
Ahhhhh. . . don't we wish! Remember, this is about the exact same stage that Aeroflot was at last year. They had decided on what they were going to buy (x22 787 & x22 A350) and were just awaiting the government to act. They didn't. Will it happen this time? I'm not holding my breath.

Just found this story that says no. -- at least as far as the 787 side of it.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...echnology/2003583130_boeing22.html


User currently offlineColumbia107 From Gibraltar, joined Aug 2004, 358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2772 times:

Is this not another aircraft sale decision based on politics?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31243 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
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Quoting Columbia107 (Reply 10):
Is this not another aircraft sale decision based on politics?

Yes, but that is how things are done sometimes... It's not unique to Russia and it's certainly not unique to commercial aircraft purchases.


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