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US Airways Applies To Codeshare With BR/RJ/VS  
User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

US Airways has applied with the DOT to codeshare with EVA Air, Royal Jordanian, and Virgin Atlantic. All three carriers will place their code on US-operated flights, and US will also place its code on RJ-operated flights.

These codeshare agreements are continuations of agreements America West previously had with the three carriers. The VS codeshare is surprising, as US had previously indicated it would not be keeping that arrangement, like it already discontinued HP's codeshare agreements with BA and QF. It does not appear that US intends to seek Antitrust Immunity with RJ, as HP currently has ATI with them.


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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Quoting A330323X (Thread starter):
It does not appear that US intends to seek Antitrust Immunity with RJ, as HP currently has ATI with them.

Well, given RJ soon to codeshare with AA, there's really no need within a year.


User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Quoting A330323X (Thread starter):
The VS codeshare is surprising

Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Quoting A330323X (Thread starter):
The VS codeshare is surprising,

maybe a sing VS could be a future Star member with merged BD?



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3993 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 2):
Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.

It's a unilateral codeshare which VS placed its code on selected routes by HP/US to Vegas and Phoenix


User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 762 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

For RJ, now there are 2 reasons to move in T7@JFK:

-Their membership in oweworld so they can share ticket and check-in counters and lounges with partner BA (along with IB, QF, CX)
-To lower the connection times onto US Airways flights.

Looking forward to it


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Interesting regarding the VS and RJ codehshare applications.

VS already has a codeshare programme with US Major Continental Airlines, who are in the SkyTeam Alliance. What is the need for a codeshare with US? I guess it will be for LGW-LAS/PHL/CLT flights?

RJ is joining OneWorld very soon and have applied for codeshares with AA. Again why the need for US codeshares?

Rob!   

[Edited 2007-02-22 22:13:33]

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 1):
Well, given RJ soon to codeshare with AA, there's really no need within a year.

I agree that's probably why they didn't apply for ATI, but I wouldn't assume the US codeshare will end just because RJ will be adding another codeshare partner in AA; it's by no means certain one way or another.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 2):
Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.



Quoting B742 (Reply 6):
VS already has a codeshare programme with US Major Continental Airlines, who are in the SkyTeam Alliance. What is the need for a codeshare with US? I guess it will be for LGW-LAS/PHL/CLT flights?

As I stated and as Jimyvr pointed out, VS only places its code on US flights; US does not place its code on VS flights.

For the full lists, if anyone is interested:

VS* code on US/HP-operated flights:
LAS-LAX/SFO/SAN/JFK/PHX
PHX-LAX/SFO/IAD

BR* code on US/HP-operated flights:
LAS-LAX/SFO
PHX-LAX/SFO

RJ* code on US/HP-operated flights
PHX-DTW/JFK/ORD
LAS-DTW/JFK/ORD

US* code on RJ-operated flights:
AMM-DTW/JFK/ORD



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

I don't even think US deserves to be in the *A, they remind me of an airline that belongs in SkyTeam.


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 8):
I don't even think US deserves to be in the *A, they remind me of an airline that belongs in SkyTeam.

What on earth does that even mean?  Confused



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 9):
What on earth does that even mean?

It means exactly what it sounds like. US has changed a lot in the past 6 years and since they joined the Star A. Since, they have gone extrememly downhill. All airlines in a specific alliance should offer about the same service.

If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight, the difference is amazing.

So, what I am saying is that US has changed since joining the *A, for the worse.



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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10):
If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight, the difference is amazing.

Uhhh... well, yeah, considering that Envoy Class is a *BUSINESS CLASS* offering, of course it's not going to seem particularly great compared to a UA International First Class suite. That's sort of obvious to anyone. Why on Earth would you compare the two?

Envoy is hardly a top-line business product anymore, but it still has a few advantages (Passport IFE kicks ass, when it's working.)



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 11):
Envoy is hardly a top-line business product anymore, but it still has a few advantages (Passport IFE kicks ass, when it's working.)

And I think it is a safe assumption that if you are travelling US Envoy, most likely you would be connecting on UAs business class equilvalent. And if you are indeed a UA First customer, you would be informed that US does not offer First.



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User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 8):
I don't even think US deserves to be in the *A, they remind me of an airline that belongs in SkyTeam.

Everyone gets an opinion, I guess.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10):
US has changed a lot in the past 6 years

Six years ago the twin towers were still standing too. Every airline has gone through major changes since then.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10):
Since, they have gone extrememly downhill.

Didn't they just turn a profit for 06? Maybe you were thinking of Varig.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10):
US has changed a lot in the past 6 years and since they joined the Star A. Since, they have gone extrememly downhill. All airlines in a specific alliance should offer about the same service.

If that was the case, no alliance would meet your unilaterally decided upon criteria for membership. As it is, the 3 US based SkyTeam carriers all have very different domestic service levels.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10):
If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight

There is a 99.9% chance that would never happen, given that you would be flying WAY out of the way to do something like that.

Quoting Captaink (Reply 12):
And if you are indeed a UA First customer, you would be informed that US does not offer First.

And I would guess that if for some strange reason you ended up going United International First to US International on an A330, they may well put you in one of the former First Class seats.



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