A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 47 Posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2725 times:
US Airways has applied with the DOT to codeshare with EVA Air, Royal Jordanian, and Virgin Atlantic. All three carriers will place their code on US-operated flights, and US will also place its code on RJ-operated flights.
These codeshare agreements are continuations of agreements America West previously had with the three carriers. The VS codeshare is surprising, as US had previously indicated it would not be keeping that arrangement, like it already discontinued HP's codeshare agreements with BA and QF. It does not appear that US intends to seek Antitrust Immunity with RJ, as HP currently has ATI with them.
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Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.
Jimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2575 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 2): Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.
It's a unilateral codeshare which VS placed its code on selected routes by HP/US to Vegas and Phoenix
Aisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 757 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2324 times:
For RJ, now there are 2 reasons to move in T7@JFK:
-Their membership in oweworld so they can share ticket and check-in counters and lounges with partner BA (along with IB, QF, CX)
-To lower the connection times onto US Airways flights.
B742 From UK - England, joined Mar 2005, 3760 posts, RR: 21 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
Interesting regarding the VS and RJ codehshare applications.
VS already has a codeshare programme with US Major Continental Airlines, who are in the SkyTeam Alliance. What is the need for a codeshare with US? I guess it will be for LGW-LAS/PHL/CLT flights?
RJ is joining OneWorld very soon and have applied for codeshares with AA. Again why the need for US codeshares?
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 47 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 1): Well, given RJ soon to codeshare with AA, there's really no need within a year.
I agree that's probably why they didn't apply for ATI, but I wouldn't assume the US codeshare will end just because RJ will be adding another codeshare partner in AA; it's by no means certain one way or another.
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 2): Would this be on select flights (LAX, EWR, JFK, MCO) or would every flight to the US on VS be part of the codeshare? I'm curious if VS 44 LAS-LGW would be part of the codeshare.
Quoting B742 (Reply 6): VS already has a codeshare programme with US Major Continental Airlines, who are in the SkyTeam Alliance. What is the need for a codeshare with US? I guess it will be for LGW-LAS/PHL/CLT flights?
As I stated and as Jimyvr pointed out, VS only places its code on US flights; US does not place its code on VS flights.
For the full lists, if anyone is interested:
VS* code on US/HP-operated flights:
LAS-LAX/SFO/SAN/JFK/PHX
PHX-LAX/SFO/IAD
BR* code on US/HP-operated flights:
LAS-LAX/SFO
PHX-LAX/SFO
RJ* code on US/HP-operated flights
PHX-DTW/JFK/ORD
LAS-DTW/JFK/ORD
US* code on RJ-operated flights:
AMM-DTW/JFK/ORD
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Boston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 9): What on earth does that even mean?
It means exactly what it sounds like. US has changed a lot in the past 6 years and since they joined the Star A. Since, they have gone extrememly downhill. All airlines in a specific alliance should offer about the same service.
If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight, the difference is amazing.
So, what I am saying is that US has changed since joining the *A, for the worse.
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FCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2048 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10): If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight, the difference is amazing.
Uhhh... well, yeah, considering that Envoy Class is a *BUSINESS CLASS* offering, of course it's not going to seem particularly great compared to a UA International First Class suite. That's sort of obvious to anyone. Why on Earth would you compare the two?
Envoy is hardly a top-line business product anymore, but it still has a few advantages (Passport IFE kicks ass, when it's working.)
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Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 11): Envoy is hardly a top-line business product anymore, but it still has a few advantages (Passport IFE kicks ass, when it's working.)
And I think it is a safe assumption that if you are travelling US Envoy, most likely you would be connecting on UAs business class equilvalent. And if you are indeed a UA First customer, you would be informed that US does not offer First.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10): US has changed a lot in the past 6 years and since they joined the Star A. Since, they have gone extrememly downhill. All airlines in a specific alliance should offer about the same service.
If that was the case, no alliance would meet your unilaterally decided upon criteria for membership. As it is, the 3 US based SkyTeam carriers all have very different domestic service levels.
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 10): If you are on a UA First Class flight and you connect to a US "Envoy" flight
There is a 99.9% chance that would never happen, given that you would be flying WAY out of the way to do something like that.
Quoting Captaink (Reply 12): And if you are indeed a UA First customer, you would be informed that US does not offer First.
And I would guess that if for some strange reason you ended up going United International First to US International on an A330, they may well put you in one of the former First Class seats.
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