IADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 669 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
This is weird, if IB ever merged it was talked about, quite oftten, that it would probably be with BA. Maybe there is soemthing to the rumored BA/AA deal and IB is starting to cast a wider net. However, in the end I do not believe this rumor at all.
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 70 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
I would seriously look into the possibility of LH buying a stake in Tap Portugal, rather then focus on Iberia. Tap Portugal is expected to begin it's privatisation in late 2007 or early 2008. While Iberia has an excellent network into South America, Tap is very dominant in Brazil and various African Countries.
SKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 843 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
From a few months there are rumors about this issue. Also in 2002 LH made an attempt to start talks with IB. The BA's response was increasing code-share agreements with IB.
IB, LH and UA had a negotiation in 1995 as well just before Star Alliance was founded ...but they (specially LH) broke off negotiations
It's true IB and LH --and BA too-- have complementary networks but is true IB is right now an oneworld member and it's logic IB continues being an OW member.
An hypothetical IB-LH merger could means a disorder at Madrid Int' Airport as I don't think BA, AA, LA and AY are agree to leave from T-4 to T1/T2 again.
Also ...what happend with both, SAS & Spanair? I'm sure SAS will do a veto in Star to this movement or they don't will allow IB join Star Alliance.
I believe the most intelligent thing is IB gets a good agreement with BA in order to do a great merger.
Quoting WINGS (Reply 5): I would seriously look into the possibility of LH buying a stake in Tap Portugal, rather then focus on Iberia. Tap Portugal is expected to begin it's privatisation in late 2007 or early 2008.
IB could be interested in TP, ...but LH does prefer IB over TP if they need to choose.
OK, TP is the solely non-south american carrier which serves 3 or 4 destinations in N.E. Brazil, but that's all.
IB has a great value because its network in LatinAmerica including GIG and GRU, TP has a great network inside Brazil but in LatinAmerica TP flies only Brazil and Venezuela.
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 70 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 1288 times:
Quoting SKY1 (Reply 6):
IB could be interested in TP, ...but LH does prefer IB over TP if they need to choose.
Well Tap Portugal would be an easir and less expensive acquasition.
Quoting SKY1 (Reply 6): OK, TP is the solely non-south american carrier which serves 3 or 4 destinations in N.E. Brazil, but that's all.
IB has a great value because its network in LatinAmerica including GIG and GRU, TP has a great network inside Brazil but in LatinAmerica TP flies only Brazil and Venezuela.
Many members seem to forget the strenght that Tap Portugal has outside of South America. The African Continent also represents great potential. Currently Tap has links to the following African countries. It is also for that reason that I suspect that LH will be a likely candidate to acquire a stake in Tap Portugal.
ANGOLA
CAPE VERDE
GUINEA-BISSAU
MOZAMBIQUE
SAO TOME E PRINCIPE
SENEGAL
SOUTH AFRICA
SKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 843 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 1255 times:
Wings,
TP specially serves the former Portuguese colinies and the Portuguese speaking-countries. That's plain and logic.
IB also is expecting about the TP privatisation as both netwoks fits muito bem
Anyway, I'm afraid this "talk" with LH is only to put pressure in BA. Im my own opinion I do prefer anytime a merger with BA and see IB for years inside oneworld.
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1880 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 1237 times:
KLM said they weren't talking with Air France too in the beginning... Look what happened there. It could be that the talks are in a very early stage and that it can go both ways. If it isn't going okay, they can walk away without an explanation. When things go right, they can bring out the good news.
However, I do recall Lufthansa saying that they won't be doing mergers or takeovers for the foreseeable future, but I can't find a link on the moment.
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Anyway, I'm afraid this "talk" with LH is only to put pressure in BA. Im my own opinion I do prefer anytime a merger with BA and see IB for years inside oneworld.
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