Edelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6735 times:
I was flying an AA A300 on FS and a question came to mind. Why aren't there any pictures of any AA A300 on DFW? From my many trips to DFW I have never seen or remember to have seen one there. Is it because they are only sent to the Caribbean and places around there?
Any answers would help. After all isn't DFW AA's main hub?
AA hasn't really ever flown the A300 into DFW in regular scheduled service. In fact, to my knowledge, AA has never scheduled the A300 through DFW. I know they used to fly them to ORD, from SJU and possibly other places, when they used to have a SJU FA base, but that was long, long ago. Today, as others have said, the higher cargo capacity means they stay on the east coast, doing runs to and from the Caribbean and Latin America out of JFK and MIA.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6613 times:
The A300 has really always been and is currently the backbone and main aircraft for their vast Latin American operation. As mentioned the cargo space and the seating for 267 is a good capacity for such routes especially from cities like Chicago, New York, and Miami where many natives from the Latin American countries make up a majority of the passengers on most flights.
The 757-200 is better suited for flights to Latin America from cities like Philadelphia and Dallas where the demand is not as high.
As far as I know the A300 has never really operated domestic flights between US cities.
DBCooper From Brazil, joined Jun 2004, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
The A300 operates in domestic service on flights from MIA to the North.
For a time the A-300 operated to LAX (to/from MIA) and LAS (to/from ORD).
It has been seen at DFW, but only due to MIA-LAX diversions due to medical emergencies or in-flight mechanical issues. It has never been scheduled to operate there.
At one time, when AA was short of transatlantic equipment, the A-300 could also be seen on LHR-BOS/JFK and CDG-BOS. The a/c was configured in 3-classes for this service.
I have flown on AA's A-300s several times over the years, including LHR-BOS, JFK-MIA, MIA-SJU, SJU-STT, STT-STX-MIA and ORD-MIA. I do not like flying on it due to it's generally run-down interiors and poor maintenance reliability. After my last flight on it, part of a YUL-JFK-MIA-GIG trip, I decided to avoid it at all costs in the future.
Adh214 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6538 times:
Each aircraft in the fleet requires hundreds of spare parts to be kept in inventory. To minimize this inventory it is best to limit the number of aircraft types that visit any given airport. For example, I don't think the MD 80 visits Miami and that is also a large AA hub. ( I could be wrong and I am sure someone will correct me if I am)
I over heard (sorry no source) that when AA stopped sending the A300 to LAX they eliminated over a million dollars of spare A300 parts from their parts inventory at LAX.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6481 times:
Quote: Each aircraft in the fleet requires hundreds of spare parts to be kept in inventory. To minimize this inventory it is best to limit the number of aircraft types that visit any given airport. For example, I don't think the MD 80 visits Miami and that is also a large AA hub. ( I could be wrong and I am sure someone will correct me if I am)
You are correct - AA has isolated most types to certain hubs. It works for them as they have McDonnell Douglas, Boeing, and Airbus types in their fleet. Less cross-over, less need for spare parts.
As for the A300, it was ordered specifically for Caribbean and Latin American services because of its cargo hold. Someone will need to help me out with the specific pallet type, but the A300 can carry two of these side-by-side in the hold. The 767 is a few inches too narrow to do this.
The amount of cargo being carried to the Caribbean and several points in Latin America is voluminous - and the A300 can handle it all. And if I remember correctly, the 787 is wide enough to hold the two side-by-side pallets - I would assume that Boeing made sure that was one of the first things it designed the 787 for.
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N276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6274 times:
I'm AA ramper at DFW. With respect to the SJU runs with the 757, they normally go out packed to the rim with passengers n baggage (I try to avoid 'em). But very little by way of cargo. I think that if the cargo volume from the DFW area was big enough to warrant an A300, they'd send one or two a day. But as of now, the big cargo shipments are handled through MIA. I have worked @ DFW for 10 years and I have only "heard" of one instance where an A300 made a stop @ DFW. I don't remember the circumstances though.
DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6221 times:
AA sends no A300s west of the East Coast. No MD80s to JFK or MIA. No 738s to ORD. So I bet you're wondering what they fly between MIA and ORD, if you cannot include MD80s or 738s? 757s.
I also remember way back when there were some "white" A300s occasionally seen at DFW right after they were first delivered. Maybe for a short time they flew out of DFW, but I don't know for sure.
762s are not scheduled to fly to DFW, but they are somewhat frequent visitors when 763s break down in LAX. I saw one here at DFW not that long ago. As I matter of fact, I flew on a 762 a year ago LAX-DFW. It was a fiasco at the gate getting the seats all redone, and they used the biz-class section as first class, so there were some people grumbling that some ended up with a "better" first class seat than some others.
Floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2072 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5832 times:
Quoting DFW13L (Reply 17): AA sends no A300s west of the East Coast. No MD80s to JFK or MIA. No 738s to ORD. So I bet you're wondering what they fly between MIA and ORD, if you cannot include MD80s or 738s? 757s.
Yep. The 757 is one of them that is seen at every single hub in the system (including STL).
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1722 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5703 times:
I recently flew from MCO-MIA and back in A300 aircraft, and I liked them very much. The interiors seemed new and fresh, except for the old bulkhead treatments. The seats had the new seat covers and were very comfortable. They were spotlessly clean. And I was surprised that on such a short sector, the flights were packed in both directions.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5677 times:
Quoting L1011 (Reply 23): I recently flew from MCO-MIA and back in A300 aircraft, and I liked them very much. The interiors seemed new and fresh, except for the old bulkhead treatments. The seats had the new seat covers and were very comfortable. They were spotlessly clean. And I was surprised that on such a short sector, the flights were packed in both directions.
Must have flown on a recently refurbished aircraft.
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: Correct.... i.e... DFW doesn't see the A300, ORD doesn't see the 738, a300, JFK doesn't see the md80 738, LGA doesn't see the 767, 777, a300, BOS doe
: I do remember seeing AA 762s and A300s at DFW within the last year. They were scheduled departures and not emergencies.
: MIA doesn't see the S80, that's it. They see both 767s, -300s and -200s.
: definately didn't see the A300 at DFW. They have never been scheduled to DFW--and definately not within the last year. If you saw an AA762 then it wa
: ORD used to see or still sees 738's. MCOflyer
: If you are seeing regular 762s at DFW they are probably coming out of mx at AFW. Every 767 I've seen leave AFW has made a short hop over to DFW.
: When did AA cease serving MIA with the MD-80??? I flew MSP-MIA and MIA-MSP in 2004 on MD-80s in 2004.
: Each AA airport has specific aircraft that fly through there with some aircraft being region specific or concentrated to a specific airport. While AA
: ORD hasn't seen 737s since, if I remember correctly, mid-2004. At that time, ORD was consolidated on all MD80/757 for shorthaul and domestic, while M
: LAX-JFK is one. Also, AA's SJU ops are definately US domestic. Didn't they also pull the 738s out of BOS?
: Actually, American Airlines does not fly from Chicago anywhere in Latin America, outside of Mexico.
: We say a A300 in Boston a couple of months ago taking the place of a 757 trip, We all ran out and started doing a voodoo dance to make sure it left(ju
: You may have caught an A300 in DFW, since the A300's go to TUL for heavy maintenance, and it could have possibly been a diversion from TUL due to weat
: Incorrect! Eastern operated early build A300B2-200s I believe (I may be wrong on the variant). Continental acquired most (if not all) of Eastern's A3
: Why? = $$$$$$$$$$$ "Used to" is correct. Yep, Jan'06 was last month. The Simplification Plan pulled 738s from ORD and SFO crew bases, MD80s from MIA,
: The first 25 A300-600R were ordered as "walk-away" leases the first 10 years of the lease back in 1988. There original intended purpose was the Caribe
: Correct if I am wrong, but isnt there no 738 service in ORD?
: American currently operates A300s on Miami-New York JFK and Miami-Orlando, until a few years ago they also served Miami-Newark and Miami-Boston, as w
: Originally the 738's were deployed in 1999 out of ORD to primarily operate routes to the West Coast and as a competitive response to United. They then
: The one and only time I got on one was from ORD to Miami. The a/c I flew on had just arrived from Milan. This was years back mind you.