AviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8568 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 2): I wonder if that now seems like a wasted investment.
Probably not. UPS is so big and has so much money I don't think anyone in the company will even think twice about it. Putting the new engines on those old birds back in the early '90s would almost be like fitting winglets on a 737-300 nowadays - a big investment in the short term, but a huge money saver in the long run (say 5 to 10 years down the road).
Baw2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7740 times:
It was fun working the -100's at PIT when UPS had the convertables doing charter work on the weekends down to CAN and the dominican republic. The one unique thing that stands out in my mind about the -100 was having to slide the speed faring aft to get at the rear baggage hold. The latches on the faring would hangup periodically making it fun to deal with in the winter time.
"And remember, Keep your stick on the ice"--->Red Green
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2980 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7560 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 6): Too bad the inevitable is about to happen. At least there is still Fed Ex for some good 727 sighting. Has UPS only operated the -100 series?
UPS operated a few -200 series aircraft till just about right after 9/11. This small subfleet was retired mainly because it was a dozen or less aircraft, and the only one in the fleet using the JT8D. They were able to cut a bit of capacity when they needed to, plus eliminated the spares and maintainence of a (for them) oddball engine type.
UPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7205 times:
5 722's were in fleet with UPS. They were not economical since we had the 757.Those were sold to Varig and Transmile. The 757 will move to what cities are left on the 721 fleet. There are only 16 frames that we are talking about . The first re-engined RR Tay 721 flew in 1992 and 52 of them were re-engined. So a 15 year run with a 15 percent reduction in fuel burn for 10 mil per aircraft, the program paid for it's self.
TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3760 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5967 times:
Quoting UPS Pilot (Reply 15): So a 15 year run with a 15 percent reduction in fuel burn for 10 mil per aircraft, the program paid for it's self.
Add to this that it became Stage III so its landing fees dropped considerably on some airports, as well... They were used for years in CGN, and this would not have been possible if they had kept the old engines.
Scottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5381 times:
Very sad to hear this. My father was one of the project managers for the reengining project... even has his name on the patent. I personally am going to greatly miss them. They always meant a lot to me.