AA87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4131 times:
I was just reading a thread on LGA and jogged my memory of taking off on Runway 22 on a DL 757 once. It was right after a US crew reported a pothole on 13-31 (gotta luv NYC - even the runways have potholes). Anyway, for anyone who knows LGA, 22 departure was one of the strangest experiences. Climbing out south/southwest over Astoria and then Staten Island felt like a completely different city, since none of the standard departures do that.
Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3964 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4033 times:
22 departures are not particularly unusual. I used to live in Woodside, literally directly under the extended centerline of this runway. We got 22 takeoffs almost every morning. It's not the most common departure configuration, but anybody who lives in the same area I did will tell you how many takeoffs they have to deal with overhead every week. On weekends, I almost always got woken up way too early in the morning by 22 departures.
A 22 departure with a turn to the *right*, as seems to have been suggested in the original post, may be more unusual. I believe the standard 22 departure is a turn to the left shortly after takeoff, which wouldn't take you over Astoria, it would take you over East Elmhurst.
You can look at the SIDS for LGA, though - there are several 22 departures, it's a perfectly standard departure.
AA87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3957 times:
Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 1): Is 22 the one that looks like your landing on a dock???
Yes, 22 is most commonly used rwyfor landings, but rare for take-off. Not sure the reason, probably has to do with tight real estate at LGA, winds, etc. But I've also wondered if safety was a factor. Of the 4 runways at LGA (2 strips that cross), 3 lead into the bay, and there have been overruns or crashes off at least 2 of them. 22 overrun leads immediately into the Grand Centra Pkwy and various buildings.
. Thanks, that was the response I was looking for. I grew up in the area but not "in the zone" so you would know better. Interesting, in all the years of driving by LGA and fying in/out, that was the only 22 departure I'd ever seen. And yes, clibmout was slightly to the left, so Elmhurst would be correct.