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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1984 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9989 times:

Hello All,

I have heard that the first AC 777 has already been started being painted. Does anyone have any info on its current status, or better yet some pictures???


Keep the shinny side up!
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User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4955 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 9898 times:

Go to http://www.seattle-deliveries.com/777deliveries600-799.htm, you can watch it's progress towards first flight from there.
No doubt a picture will show up there or on http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/ pretty soon after first flight.


User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1369 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 9727 times:

My sister's itenary for her flight in may to LHR shows a 77W. I guess the first flight would be around april/may, any insider info?

User currently offlineSfuk From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 9685 times:

I was looking on AC's website and they are listing a 77W already????
Jumping the gun a bit arn't they?

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/index.html

Stu


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9692 times:

Quoting Sfuk (Reply 3):
I was looking on AC's website and they are listing a 77W already????
Jumping the gun a bit arn't they?

People are booking flights on the plane. They are entitled to see a seat map, aren't they?


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Does/Can the 777 come with winglets? Just seems wrong if the 787 automatically comes with blended wignlets and the 777 doesnt/can't have them..

just wondering..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineSfuk From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9657 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):
People are booking flights on the plane. They are entitled to see a seat map, aren't they?

Dude, it's nothing to do with seat maps. The link I provided lists AC's 'Current' fleet

Quote from AC website:

Air Canada's fleet consists of 332 aircraft, including the Air Canada Jazz fleet of 133 aircraft (as of February 2007).


Not that it's really that important......

Stu


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9632 times:

Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 1):
Go to http://www.seattle-deliveries.com/777deliveries600-799.htm, you can watch it's progress towards first flight from there.

Thanks for the free plug to my site once again  spin , however http://blog.seattle-deliveries.com would be better to track day to day progress. I don't have anything worthy of note on this aircraft yet though until it comes out of paint.

R


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9590 times:

Quoting Sfuk (Reply 3):
was looking on AC's website and they are listing a 77W already????
Jumping the gun a bit arn't they?

Why? The 77W is not a new model and it comes from Everett, not from Toulouse  duck 


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9368 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 5):
Does/Can the 777 come with winglets? Just seems wrong if the 787 automatically comes with blended wignlets and the 777 doesnt/can't have them..

just wondering..

The 777-300ER and 777-200LR come with raked wingtips which provide the same benefits as blended winglets.

Therefore those models do not need blended winglets.

The 777-200, -200ER, and -300 do not come with either blended winglets or raked wingtips.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

Wow can´t wait´til they come to FRA !

User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9346 times:

How many 777s did AC order? How long till AC has all of them? And, How long until the A340s are gone?  Wink


Will You Try to Change Things? Use the Power that you have, the Power of a Million new Ideas.
User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1984 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9331 times:

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 11):

Firm orders for 18, plus options for 18 more. As for the 787 if you were interested, it was 14 with options of up to 60.

Time line I am not sure when they will have all of them, however it could be 2009 as that number seems stuck in my head. Keep in mind if they take the options it will pass that date. The 343 will unfortunatly be gone with the arrival of the 777s  Sad



Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineSalomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9199 times:

You can find a delivery schedule for the first 14 here. I remember reading somewhere that Air Canada had secured leasing for 1 extra 777-300ER (C-FITW) from a leasing company (which one Confused), enabling them to return 1 A340 sooner. Would that mean they will get a total of 19 777s?


Takeoffs are optional; landings are mandatory.
User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9188 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):
People are booking flights on the plane. They are entitled to see a seat map, aren't they?

Air Canada's website lists them as having already taken delivery of 1 777-300ER. In reality, no 777-300ER has yet been delivered to Air Canada. Thats the whole big deal here that apparently no one in this thread has understood.


User currently offlineBakersdozen From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9165 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
Air Canada's website lists them as having already taken delivery of 1 777-300ER. In reality, no 777-300ER has yet been delivered to Air Canada. Thats the whole big deal here that apparently no one in this thread has understood.

Come on, it's their plane, it's being painted. Since people are booking flights on it for next month it only makes sense to add it to their current fleet. I can see the ton of questions now if it wasn't done... "I'm flying on a 777 next month but I checked your fleet and AC doesn't have one. What gives?"

It's not a "big deal" as you say...


User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9158 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 13):
leasing for 1 extra 777-300ER (C-FITW) from a leasing company (which one ), enabling them to return 1 A340 sooner. Would that mean they will get a total of 19 777s?

Yes you are correct Salomon, AC did leased out another B777-300ER for 10years so thats a total of 19 firm orders from 18. I remember way back when Boeing introduce the brand new B777 to the world and I knew someday AC will place an order for those B777s.


User currently offlineSalomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9158 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
Air Canada's website lists them as having already taken delivery of 1 777-300ER. In reality, no 777-300ER has yet been delivered to Air Canada. Thats the whole big deal here that apparently no one in this thread has understood.

Actually, the first 777-300ER appears to have been imported in Canada, as shown here. Now, could this mean the 777 left Paine Field without anyone noticing or are they just ahead in paper work?



Takeoffs are optional; landings are mandatory.
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 9092 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 17):
Actually, the first 777-300ER appears to have been imported in Canada, as shown here. Now, could this mean the 777 left Paine Field without anyone noticing or are they just ahead in paper work?

 bigthumbsup 

R


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4955 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9091 times:

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 16):
AC did leased out another B777-300ER for 10years

It is the second for delivery, according to the model number that has a "Q8" in it, it signifies ILFC as the leesor.

Quoting Salomon (Reply 17):
or are they just ahead in paper work?

It is not uncommon to file import entries with Canada Customs ahead of time. Truckers do it regularly but usually not this far ahead.


User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9037 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 13):
I remember reading somewhere that Air Canada had secured leasing for 1 extra 777-300ER (C-FITW) from a leasing company (which one ),

From the Air Canada website:

Air Canada leases additional Boeing 777-300ER to accelerate wide-body fleet renewal and modernization
MONTREAL, April 3 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today it has signed
a 10-year lease for one new Boeing 777-300ER from International Lease Finance
Corporation to accelerate its wide-body fleet renewal and modernization
program.
Air Canada will take delivery of the leased aircraft in May 2007,
bringing to eight the total number of Boeing 777s entering the fleet next
year. Delivery of the leased aircraft will allow Air Canada to accelerate by
nearly two years the return of a leased Airbus A340-300 originally scheduled
to be returned to ILFC in mid-2009. The transaction is part of an ongoing
renewal program that will give Air Canada one of the most modern aircraft
fleets in the world and provide savings on fuel, expanded range capabilities
and other efficiencies.
In November 2005, Air Canada announced that it had concluded agreements
with Boeing for the acquisition of up to 36 Boeing 777s and up to 60 Boeing
787 Dreamliners. The agreements include firm orders for 18 Boeing 777s, plus
purchase rights for 18 more, in a yet-to-be determined mix of the 777 family's
newest models: the 777-300ER, the 777-200LR Worldliner and the 777 freighter.
Delivery of the 777 aircraft is scheduled to commence in March 2007. The
agreements also include firm orders for 14 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, plus
options and purchase rights for an additional 46 aircraft. Air Canada's first
787 is scheduled for delivery in 2010.


User currently offlineSimong From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7805 times:

Quoting Sfuk (Reply 3):
was looking on AC's website and they are listing a 77W already????
Jumping the gun a bit arn't they



Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):

People are booking flights on the plane. They are entitled to see a seat map, aren't they?

I think that SFUK was referring to the fact that it states that there is one A/C already in the fleet ..... not the fact that there is a seat map !



BA all the way !!!
User currently offlineLH477 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 584 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7005 times:

I think they might be entering the Air Canada's fleet later then expected. I had booked a return leg of LHR-YYZ on April 7th on 77W, however I got a change in Itinerary this weekend stating it was changed from 77W to 343. I was so depressed, I was so looking forward to 77W, mind you I love the 343, but really was looking forward to that new plane smell.  Smile....Oh well!!!!


Come on you gunners......!!!!!
User currently offlineKearney From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6685 times:

The delivery flight of the first 773 is at the end of march. It will fly to vancouver. From vancouver i have been told it will be touring Canada. Id think it will be stoping in YUL and YYZ first.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6384 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 4):
Quoting Sfuk (Reply 3):
I was looking on AC's website and they are listing a 77W already????
Jumping the gun a bit arn't they?

People are booking flights on the plane. They are entitled to see a seat map, aren't they?

It's strange that AC already has the seat map for their new 777 in their website but still does not have the seat map for their "Extreme Makeover" 767-300s with the flat-bed seats in J class, although 4 of those aircraft are already in service, with 2 more by the end of March. They show 4 different 763 seating layouts but all involve the the old 5-abreast standard J seats.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/index.html#current


25 Post contains links MEL : the Star Alliance timetable is showing the following flights as 77W: AC410 / 01Apr07 12:00-13:10 YYZ-YUL AC417 / 01Apr07 15:00-16:18 YUL-YYZ right now
26 Post contains links and images Salomon : Is it her? Note the blue on the on tail. She came out 02-16-2007? Source[Edited 2007-02-26 05:12:39]
27 MEL : Yes, that is C-FITL.
28 BlatantEcho : man, that's going to look great in AC colors
29 Post contains images ZBBYLW : I myself can not wait until I see how this bird looks for real in AC colours, should be interesting. The only thing I do not like about all of this, i
30 BeechNut : The A340-300 will not disappear...she will just climb slooooooowwwwly into the sunset... All kidding aside I do like the A340-300. Sort of reminds me
31 Post contains links Allee : http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/ A photo of the 77W fully painted is in that link.
32 Fly_yhm : I love how we all crack jokes about the awwwweeeeeeesome performance on the A340. Wow She looks great even without being able to see all of her. Cant
33 Kearney : I have some photos, unfortunatly I am not able to share on airliners.net as they are off aircanada's employee site, but I can tell you she is painted
34 SixtySeven : The latest rumour from flight ops is that the 340s will all be gone by years end. Including the -500s. Initially the -500s were to be the first to go
35 Bakersdozen : haha so why is it called that? I'm curious, not offended.
36 Legoguy : Brilliant looking livery! That will look great in the air! BTW what colour does A/C paint their fuselages?
37 C172Akula : She looks good! Can't wait to see a nice unobstructed shot to take it fully in!
38 Sebring : You are, in fact, pulling this info right out of the sky. AC paid cash - US$87 million - for each -500. They are not paying double anything. They are
39 Post contains images FighterPilot : Wow...... That's awesome. I can't wait to see her in person. Cal
40 SixtySeven : Sebring. During the second round of cuts during CCAA I spoke with the then VP Operations. He told me that during the restructuring of the leases AC ma
41 SixtySeven : Oh by the way Sebring. Two of a kind is not the right description. The -500 is a lemon compared to what they are getting in the 777. Nearly 70 more se
42 Post contains links ChrisA330 : AC are not leasing the -500s. It was in the CCAA legal documents that they paid Airbus $87 million for each frame. As part of the same agreement they
43 BeechNut : By two of a kind I think he meant an orphan fleet of only two aircraft. I have in front of me the Air Canada prospectus that indicates that the A340-5
44 SixtySeven : Could it be that they leased, then bought them back? Or is that not in your prospectus.
45 AC777LR : Dave I think its a frosted Green, mint shade.
46 Sebring : Quite correct, Chris. I'm sure SixtySeven is a nice fellow and even bumps into executives from time to time but I discussed these planes at the time w
47 CayMan : If someone actually told you that it is incredibly false information. In the CCAA procedure nobody would "make" them take anything, other than the co
48 Threepoint : The colour swatch is #3A45G - Regurgitated Aquafresh from the Benjamin Moore 'Fluid' series.
49 Sebring : Nope, I remember the purchase details at the time, posted them here on a.net at the time. The planes have always been owned. Usually what happens wit
50 BeechNut : No, the prospectus clearly indicates that they were a conditional purchase direct from Airbus, financed until 2019. Beech
51 Sebring : AC actually calls it Frost Green Very nice plane in the sky on a day like today, when YYZ is covered in fresh white.
52 SixtySeven : Well then, I stand totally corrected. I thought the "juice" I had been given was good but alas, I am wrong (better not let the wife hear that). Before
53 Amirs : on what routes are the 77L and 77W alreadt scheduled to flt for with AC? Any chance TLV?
54 ChrisA330 : YYZ-LHR/FRA/HKG/NRT/PVG and YVR-NRT seem to be the first routes to see the 777s.
55 Post contains images Multimark : Easy on the hyperbole cowboy. The A340 are certainly not death jets, and were welcomed by AC pax when they were introduced into service (how soon peo
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