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Two Virgin America At SFO 2/25/07  
User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3857 times:

Yesterday, I landed at SFO from LAX on the way back from LIM and saw two Virgin America 320s parked at the maintenance areas at SFO, across from the AA terminal. It was an impressive sight, though not much seemed to be going on with the aircraft.
I searched and saw a couple of similar threads, but none addressed how long the planes had been at SFO and why they are even there in the first place, since the airline doesn't have certification yet.
Any comments?
FLY2LIM


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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

wow, no replies. Maybe I saw a vision, lol.

FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

That's funny. I thought VX was leasing out their 11 buses...so I would assume that would include the two at SFO.

User currently offlineB6sFinest From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

Well even though we wont ever see them in the air, atleast in VA colors, they are pretty planes. Oh well...

User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 685 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

At least one of them has been there for some time, and yes, yesterday there were two of them there. They are parked over in the general aviation area of the airport and have been doing an excellent job of collecting dust.

Quoting FLY2LIM (Thread starter):
It was an impressive sight

Agreed! As long as they sit over in general aviation doing nothing and not flying our domestic skies as a foreign controlled carrier, it is an impressive sight.  box   duck   box   stirthepot 



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User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 633 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

The airline is based in Burlingame, CA, which is pretty much San Fran. One of the aircraft is stationed around the airport for commercial purposes, and the other is one of several aircraft used by VX to bring higher up staff back and forth from New York. The aircraft actually come from Griffis Airpark though.

As of now, the two aircraft in SFO are 622VA and 623VA, however, 624VA, and 625VA have also made their visits to SFO.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6762 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

Now are they allowed to fly the aircraft for promotion as long as they don't do scheduled or charter service?

I mean, I was just thinking it might be a good idea for them to fly to the 40 airports they said they could potentially served to try to muster up some support... I mean, instead of them just sitting there..

or would the price of gas be too much for that kind of promotions? I could see it.. 40 days and 40 nights to 40 cities by Virgin America...



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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

The sad thing is, if this airline was called anything except Virgin, it would have got by without raising an eyebrow.
Put the Virgin name on the side and everyone run's screaming.



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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting Xpfg (Reply 5):
The airline is based in Burlingame, CA, which is pretty much San Fran. One of the aircraft is stationed around the airport for commercial purposes, and the other is one of several aircraft used by VX to bring higher up staff back and forth from New York. The aircraft actually come from Griffis Airpark though.

As of now, the two aircraft in SFO are 622VA and 623VA, however, 624VA, and 625VA have also made their visits to SFO.

I was aware of where their headquarters were and it made sense for them to be in SFO. However, I found it curious that they had them just parked there in plain sight, and TWO of them. I am aware they don't have an operating license yet, so I wasn't sure why they had two aircraft. Now I find out they actually have four, lol.

Thanks for the info.

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 7):
The sad thing is, if this airline was called anything except Virgin, it would have got by without raising an eyebrow.
Put the Virgin name on the side and everyone run's screaming.

I had just returned from a trip to LIM, via MIA and LAX. I was very tired, so I don't recall either running or screaming, lol. The reason I started the thread is simply because it's an airline I'm very aware of and because it felt strange seeing their planes ready to fly but just parked at a major airport. I would have started the thread with any airline like that.

FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4247 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2813 times:

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 7):
The sad thing is, if this airline was called anything except Virgin, it would have got by without raising an eyebrow.
Put the Virgin name on the side and everyone run's screaming.

I think calling it "Sir Richard Air" might have caused some problems...



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 7):
The sad thing is, if this airline was called anything except Virgin, it would have got by without raising an eyebrow.
Put the Virgin name on the side and everyone run's screaming.

I agree. And the ones doing the screaming are a gaggle of legacy carriers who are either mired in bankruptcy or so full of themselves (likely, both) that they can't stand the thought of someone else coming along. Trot out all the legislators, all the political 'hired guns'...anyone that can roadblock this some more, allowing the 'high and mighty' legacies to continue doing what they do best: losing money, pissing off customers, playing 'can-you-top-this' with their competition, and other 'reindeer games.'

Talk about NIMBY-ism. These legacy fossils want to padlock the playground now that they're in it.


User currently offlineTbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

I do apologize if I may sound ignorant, but there has been some question as to the management background at Virgin America (with the exception of Sir Richard). Posters have written that headquarters are in Burlingame, CA. I'm quite familiar with that area and its proximity to San Francisco. Also, one of the most expensive places to live in the US. Posters have also written that the Virgin America aircraft have been used to transport higher up staff back and forth to New York.

Something in the whole equation doesn't seem to add up. I remember the days of Frank Lorenzo et al. Are there some similarities emerging here?

Inquiring minds want to know.  duck 


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