Continental123 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 147 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7870 times:
I was just wondering what route was flown by the most airlines? Perhaps LAX-NRT?
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4036 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7849 times:
I know there are several airlines that fly LAX-HNL and SFO-HNL, but I have to think there are other routes with more airlines elsewhere in the world. If you count EWR/JFK as "NYC" and LHR/LGW/STN/LTN as "LON", then there are quite a few airlines flying the "NYC" to "LON" route. But I suspect you meant specific airports....
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6477 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7809 times:
He's right-- you mean airport-pairs or cities?
As I recall you need 12+ airlines to be a contender.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6677 posts, RR: 17 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7787 times:
Until UA quit LHR-JFK last year there were six airlines, AA, AI, BA, KU, UA and VS on this route.
Like LHR-JFK, LHR-HKG is operated today by five airlines, BA, CX, NZ, QF and VS with direct flights. And when you come to routes that are so long they (currently) require a stopover, like LHR-SYD, the number of operators increases significantly. With a necessary stopover anywhere between DXB and NRT all the airlines with a hub at or between these airports seem to either offer an LHR-SYD service or are applying to fly to SYD so they can offer such a service. Those currently offering a one-stop service include BA (via SIN), EK (via DXB), JL (via NRT), QF (via SIN), TG (via BKK) and VS (via HKG). They are likely to be joined by the likes of QR who have recently applied for rights.
Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2005 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7765 times:
A quick check shows at 21 carriers flying ORD to LAX tomorrow. I didn't check if all of them are non-stops, but I suspect that would be a minimal issue. FWIW:
ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6477 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7685 times:
How about it-- are you counting just nonstop airlines, or just direct, or connecting too?
Continental123 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7679 times:
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7626 times:
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4):
ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.
One can argue that you can't logically count all of these since many of these carriers don't have fifth freedom rights, meaning that can't have passengers originate at ORD and terminate at LAX. For instance, you can't get a ticket to fly on Thai from ORD to LAX. However, the originator of the thread did not specify that you must be able to fly the route as a passenger, only the airline flies the route, so I guess they count. If not, you can only count AA and UA. Alaska does not serve ORD-LAX.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6677 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7591 times:
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4): A quick check shows at 21 carriers flying ORD to LAX tomorrow. I didn't check if all of them are non-stops, but I suspect that would be a minimal issue. FWIW:
ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.
Are you sure that all these airlines actually fly between ORD and LAX. For example I believe that the ANA, Air Canada, Air New Zealand, Asiana, bmi, LOT, Lufthansa, SAS, Thai and possibly the US Airways flights may all be code-shares on United Airways' flights and that none of them actually fly the route. Certainly it would be very unusual for non-American airlines to have rights on such a route and equally unusual for eleven members of the Star Alliance to operate the same route. Similarly I see a good representation of One World members including Cathay Pacific, Iberia and Qantas as well as American in the list. Again I suspect that these are code-shares and that only AA from this group actually flies this route.
Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2005 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7592 times:
Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 8): That must include code shares I guess
Yes, my mistake, these include a bunch of codeshares.
RW717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 283 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7566 times:
ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.
One can argue that you can't logically count all of these since many of these carriers don't have fifth freedom rights, meaning that can't have passengers originate at ORD and terminate at LAX. For instance, you can't get a ticket to fly on Thai from ORD to LAX. However, the originator of the thread did not specify that you must be able to fly the route as a passenger, only the airline flies the route, so I guess they count. If not, you can only count AA and UA. Alaska does not serve ORD-LAX.
Actually, I believe that most of these airlines do not physically fly this route at all but are part of the Star Alliance.
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B6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 813 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7560 times:
Quoting Richierich (Reply 1): I know there are several airlines that fly LAX-HNL and SFO-HNL
LAX - HNL (7): Hawaiian - up to 3x daily, Northwest 1x, Continental 1x, Delta up to 2x, American up to 4x, United up to 5x, ATA up to 2x daily.
SFO - HNL (5): Hawaiian, Northwest, Delta, American, United
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4036 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7546 times:
OK - so what is the tally?
EZE-GRU and LAX-NRT with 7 each? Is that the winner?
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5240 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7499 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 3): Those currently offering a one-stop service include BA (via SIN), EK (via DXB), JL (via NRT), QF (via SIN), TG (via BKK) and VS (via HKG). They are likely to be joined by the likes of QR who have recently applied for rights.
??? Only BA (via SIN), VS (via HKG) & QF (via SIN, BKK & HKG) offer direct, one stop service LHR-Oz. The stop is about 1.5 hours. All other airlines offer a one stop connecting flight with a stop of between about 2 hours and about 18 hours. Airlines offering one stop connecting flights LHR - SYD/MEL are SQ (SIN), TG(BKK), CX(HKG), KE(ICN), JL(NRT), EK(DXB), SA(JNB) and maybe OZ(ICN). GF & BI offer 2 stop, 1connection flights.
FLFlyGuy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 238 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7047 times:
Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 18): Quoting Continental123 (Thread starter):Perhaps LAX-NRT?
Although at seven currently, I think they had far more carriers on this route a couple of years ago.
JL
NH
SQ
KE
MH
TG
RG
NW
UA (not sure about this)
DL
You left out AA! Also, I don't think MH, TG, RG, or DL fly it with their own metal.
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25 DeltAirlines: LAX-LAS has quite a few: AA UA DL US WN NW This might be the most competitive domestic route out there. This also neglects B6 down the road at LGB.
26 Stirling: If we are talking current, or historical, the 12 number from memory seems to be the golden egg. I have this supplemental map that once came with the
27 VHVXB: You can add PK as well with its 2 weekly service
28 Gemuser: They have had the rights forever! They haven't operated it AFAIK in about 5 years. It used to be served by the FRA service which went SYD-SIN-BKK-FRA
29 Himmat01: BOM-DEL Air India Indian Jet Airways Air Sahara Air Deccan Kingfisher Airlines Spice Jet Go Air Indigo Airlines
30 Cloudyapple: CPA712/713 have been on the schedule for a long time. + Thai + Orient Thai + PIA + Finnair (Winter only) + Cargoes In the past - Lauda Qantas Thai Sk
31 9VSWA: SIN-CGK is also right up there, with 10 airlines serving the route using their own metal. SQ, GA, EK, QR, LH, AI, PR, Valuair, Adam Air and Lion Air a
32 Kaitak: Actually, CX has been operating that route for quite a while - with DC4s, Electras, Convair 880s and so on, up to date; it is actually one of its old
33 Ktachiya: Yes, suprisingly they did. The reason being that 6 years ago on my way to YVR, I planned to fly through LAX. I was looking at MH, RG and I knew there
34 FLLspoter: US Domestic goes to FLL-LGA Thats 6 there NK,DL,AA,US,B6,Airtran
35 Richierich: Except for the previously mentioned LAX-LAS and LAX-HNL (still considered domestic, right?)
38 FLLspoter: It is domestic but no one operates it with domestc aircraft DL uses 767 AA 757 and 767 hiwaiian 767 and 717 ua 767 anymore And besides on FLL-LGA all
39 Viscount724: Correct, CX has had a daily HKG-BKK-SIN flight for decades in addition to their HKG-SIN nonstops. It's currently a 744.
40 Nosedive: and your point is... That's all he wanted to know
41 RAFVC10: But Air Nostrum and Aebal operates these flights under IB and JK IATA code... I find a route operated by 10 airlines... LONDON - NEW YORK 1. British
42 Gemini573: As you said, the number of carriers between BKK-HKG and BKK-SIN are pretty close. I wonder which city pairs has more daily flights? I think that BKK-
43 KEno: From the archive... RE: Cities Connected By The Most Carriers (by KEno Nov 19 2004 in Civil Aviation) Back in Nov 2004 the Top 4 routes were as below,
44 Cedarjet: I think it's worth mentioning Iranian domestic routes here. I think Tehran-Mashhad and Tehran-Kish would be right up there. Tehran to Mashhad includes
45 Richierich: Who knew?! Thanks for the input. That would not have been a city pair I would have thought of.
46 Abrelosojos: = Bombay - Delhi also has service by Air India Express which makes it 10 airlines. 11 if you count Indus Air with same aircraft immediate connection.
47 PU752: Montevideo - Buenos Aires air shuttle with up to 30 one way freqs during high season peak, today there are 16 daily flights between MVD and EZE/AEP. R
48 Cedarjet: Indeed. Check out this INCREDIBLE trip report / article about the (yes) Saha 707 by Jan Koppen, you'll see halfway down, there's a pic of the departu
49 PlymSpotter: They are still technically different companies and seperate airlines though Dan
50 Aloha73G: Huh? What determines if an aircraft is domestic? Hawai'i routes have had widebodies for many years due to their length (ETOPS) and the volume of traf
51 N770WD: For February 2007, specific to airport pairs BKK-HKG 14 9I, AI, AY, CI, CX, EK, ET, GF, KQ, N8, OX, PK, TG, UL SIN-CGK 9 AI, EK, GA, KI, LH, PR, QR, S
52 FLLspoter: Hawaii and alaska are not consideder domestic by most airlines because you have to spend more miles to get there than other domestic flights Joe
53 Cloudyapple: Make it 12. Thai Sky has ceased and Hong Kong Airlines flies to Phuket, not Bangkok. Air Hong Kong, Saudi Arabian and Martinair fly freighters to Ban
54 N1120A: Only two of those airlines actually fly the route, AA and UA. Actually, that would be 8th freedom rights, because it would be cabotage. Does American
55 Swissgabe: Around two-three years ago there was a topic with the same subject. At that time I remember that SIN-CGK, BKK-SIN and HKG-BKK where in the top 3 routi
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