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Most Airlines On A Single Route?  
User currently offlineContinental123 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 147 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 8637 times:

I was just wondering what route was flown by the most airlines? Perhaps LAX-NRT?

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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 8616 times:

I know there are several airlines that fly LAX-HNL and SFO-HNL, but I have to think there are other routes with more airlines elsewhere in the world. If you count EWR/JFK as "NYC" and LHR/LGW/STN/LTN as "LON", then there are quite a few airlines flying the "NYC" to "LON" route. But I suspect you meant specific airports....


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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6800 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 8576 times:

He's right-- you mean airport-pairs or cities?

As I recall you need 12+ airlines to be a contender.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7403 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8554 times:

Until UA quit LHR-JFK last year there were six airlines, AA, AI, BA, KU, UA and VS on this route.

Like LHR-JFK, LHR-HKG is operated today by five airlines, BA, CX, NZ, QF and VS with direct flights. And when you come to routes that are so long they (currently) require a stopover, like LHR-SYD, the number of operators increases significantly. With a necessary stopover anywhere between DXB and NRT all the airlines with a hub at or between these airports seem to either offer an LHR-SYD service or are applying to fly to SYD so they can offer such a service. Those currently offering a one-stop service include BA (via SIN), EK (via DXB), JL (via NRT), QF (via SIN), TG (via BKK) and VS (via HKG). They are likely to be joined by the likes of QR who have recently applied for rights.

Others may be able to add to the above list.


User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2316 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8532 times:
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A quick check shows at 21 carriers flying ORD to LAX tomorrow. I didn't check if all of them are non-stops, but I suspect that would be a minimal issue. FWIW:

ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11421 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8511 times:
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I think EZE-GRU is a winner also with 7 airlines: JJ, RG, G3, AR, 4M, BA and LH.
EZE-SCL with 5: AC, AR, LA, G3 and AF.

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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6800 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8452 times:

How about it-- are you counting just nonstop airlines, or just direct, or connecting too?

User currently offlineContinental123 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8446 times:

Check this out: LAX/NRT - 7

User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4):

That must include code shares I guess


User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8393 times:

Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4):

ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.

One can argue that you can't logically count all of these since many of these carriers don't have fifth freedom rights, meaning that can't have passengers originate at ORD and terminate at LAX. For instance, you can't get a ticket to fly on Thai from ORD to LAX. However, the originator of the thread did not specify that you must be able to fly the route as a passenger, only the airline flies the route, so I guess they count. If not, you can only count AA and UA. Alaska does not serve ORD-LAX.



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7403 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8358 times:

Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4):
A quick check shows at 21 carriers flying ORD to LAX tomorrow. I didn't check if all of them are non-stops, but I suspect that would be a minimal issue. FWIW:

ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.

Are you sure that all these airlines actually fly between ORD and LAX. For example I believe that the ANA, Air Canada, Air New Zealand, Asiana, bmi, LOT, Lufthansa, SAS, Thai and possibly the US Airways flights may all be code-shares on United Airways' flights and that none of them actually fly the route. Certainly it would be very unusual for non-American airlines to have rights on such a route and equally unusual for eleven members of the Star Alliance to operate the same route. Similarly I see a good representation of One World members including Cathay Pacific, Iberia and Qantas as well as American in the list. Again I suspect that these are code-shares and that only AA from this group actually flies this route.


User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2316 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8359 times:
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Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 8):
That must include code shares I guess

Yes, my mistake, these include a bunch of codeshares.


User currently offlineRW717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8333 times:

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 9):
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 4):

ANA, Air Canada, Air China International, Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Asiana Airlines, bmi, Brussels Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Eastern Airlines, Iberia, JAL, LOT - Polish Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas Airways, SAS, Thai Airways International, Turkish Airlines, US Airways, United Airlines.

One can argue that you can't logically count all of these since many of these carriers don't have fifth freedom rights, meaning that can't have passengers originate at ORD and terminate at LAX. For instance, you can't get a ticket to fly on Thai from ORD to LAX. However, the originator of the thread did not specify that you must be able to fly the route as a passenger, only the airline flies the route, so I guess they count. If not, you can only count AA and UA. Alaska does not serve ORD-LAX.

Actually, I believe that most of these airlines do not physically fly this route at all but are part of the Star Alliance.



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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8327 times:

Quoting Richierich (Reply 1):
I know there are several airlines that fly LAX-HNL and SFO-HNL

LAX - HNL (7): Hawaiian - up to 3x daily, Northwest 1x, Continental 1x, Delta up to 2x, American up to 4x, United up to 5x, ATA up to 2x daily.

SFO - HNL (5): Hawaiian, Northwest, Delta, American, United

~B6FA4ever

[Edited 2007-02-28 02:00:09]

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8313 times:

OK - so what is the tally?
EZE-GRU and LAX-NRT with 7 each? Is that the winner?



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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8266 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 3):
Those currently offering a one-stop service include BA (via SIN), EK (via DXB), JL (via NRT), QF (via SIN), TG (via BKK) and VS (via HKG). They are likely to be joined by the likes of QR who have recently applied for rights.

??? Only BA (via SIN), VS (via HKG) & QF (via SIN, BKK & HKG) offer direct, one stop service LHR-Oz. The stop is about 1.5 hours. All other airlines offer a one stop connecting flight with a stop of between about 2 hours and about 18 hours. Airlines offering one stop connecting flights LHR - SYD/MEL are SQ (SIN), TG(BKK), CX(HKG), KE(ICN), JL(NRT), EK(DXB), SA(JNB) and maybe OZ(ICN). GF & BI offer 2 stop, 1connection flights.

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8224 times:

One I can think of; MAH-BCN for the upcoming summer:

AeBal ... B717
Air Europa ... B738
Air Nostrum ... ATR72, DHC8, CRJ
ClickAir ... A320
Iberia ... MD87, MD88
Spanair ... MD82, MD83, MD87, F100(GIR Jet lease)
Vueling ... A320


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User currently offlineBuckieboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

7 does seem to be the magic number at the moment:

BKK to SIN; all direct and bookable through Travelocity on Fridays:

LX
SK
CX
AY
TG
SQ
QF

+ there may also be some LCCs on this route that don't show up on Travelocity's website

Cheers

BB


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8162 times:

Quoting Continental123 (Thread starter):
Perhaps LAX-NRT?

Although at seven currently, I think they had far more carriers on this route a couple of years ago.

JL
NH
SQ
KE
MH
TG
RG
NW
UA (not sure about this)
DL



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8106 times:

AKL-SYD : NZ, QF, EK, LA, AR, DJ


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8081 times:

KQ ~ BKK-HKG
ET ~ BKK-HKG
AI ~ BKK-HKG
CX ~ BKK-HKG
GF ~ BKK-HKG
UL ~ BKK-HKG
EK ~ BKK-HKG
CI ~ BKK-HKG


User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 826 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8014 times:

Quoting Buckieboy (Reply 17):
BKK to SIN; all direct and bookable through Travelocity on Fridays:

LX
SK
CX
AY
TG
SQ
QF

+ there may also be some LCCs on this route that don't show up on Travelocity's website

Cheers

BB

since when did CX hv the right to fly BKK-SIN?!

HKG-BKK should be up the list there



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User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 826 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7992 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 20):
KQ ~ BKK-HKG
ET ~ BKK-HKG
AI ~ BKK-HKG
CX ~ BKK-HKG
GF ~ BKK-HKG
UL ~ BKK-HKG
EK ~ BKK-HKG
CI ~ BKK-HKG

where is TG??

BKK - HKG is operated by 10 carriers with their own metals, who can beat that, please voice up!

TG, ET, CX, GF, UL, EK, CI, OX, AY, AI

[Edited 2007-02-28 04:06:30]


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7921 times:

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 22):

LOL how could I forget TG

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 22):
AY

This service will discontinue once AY start their direct service to HKG

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 21):
since when did CX hv the right to fly BKK-SIN?!

or QF for that matter.

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 22):
10 carriers with their own metals

you forgot KQ which makes it 11


User currently offlineFLFlyGuy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 244 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7814 times:
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Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 18):
Quoting Continental123 (Thread starter):Perhaps LAX-NRT?
Although at seven currently, I think they had far more carriers on this route a couple of years ago.

JL
NH
SQ
KE
MH
TG
RG
NW
UA (not sure about this)
DL

You left out AA! Also, I don't think MH, TG, RG, or DL fly it with their own metal.



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25 DeltAirlines : LAX-LAS has quite a few: AA UA DL US WN NW This might be the most competitive domestic route out there. This also neglects B6 down the road at LGB.
26 Stirling : If we are talking current, or historical, the 12 number from memory seems to be the golden egg. I have this supplemental map that once came with the
27 VHVXB : You can add PK as well with its 2 weekly service
28 Gemuser : They have had the rights forever! They haven't operated it AFAIK in about 5 years. It used to be served by the FRA service which went SYD-SIN-BKK-FRA
29 Himmat01 : BOM-DEL Air India Indian Jet Airways Air Sahara Air Deccan Kingfisher Airlines Spice Jet Go Air Indigo Airlines
30 Cloudyapple : CPA712/713 have been on the schedule for a long time. + Thai + Orient Thai + PIA + Finnair (Winter only) + Cargoes In the past - Lauda Qantas Thai Sk
31 9VSWA : SIN-CGK is also right up there, with 10 airlines serving the route using their own metal. SQ, GA, EK, QR, LH, AI, PR, Valuair, Adam Air and Lion Air a
32 Kaitak : Actually, CX has been operating that route for quite a while - with DC4s, Electras, Convair 880s and so on, up to date; it is actually one of its old
33 Ktachiya : Yes, suprisingly they did. The reason being that 6 years ago on my way to YVR, I planned to fly through LAX. I was looking at MH, RG and I knew there
34 FLLspoter : US Domestic goes to FLL-LGA Thats 6 there NK,DL,AA,US,B6,Airtran
35 Richierich : Except for the previously mentioned LAX-LAS and LAX-HNL (still considered domestic, right?)
36 EXAAUADL : How many airlines fly SYD-AKL?
37 Post contains images Buckieboy : Cheers BB
38 FLLspoter : It is domestic but no one operates it with domestc aircraft DL uses 767 AA 757 and 767 hiwaiian 767 and 717 ua 767 anymore And besides on FLL-LGA all
39 Viscount724 : Correct, CX has had a daily HKG-BKK-SIN flight for decades in addition to their HKG-SIN nonstops. It's currently a 744.
40 Nosedive : and your point is... That's all he wanted to know
41 Post contains images RAFVC10 : But Air Nostrum and Aebal operates these flights under IB and JK IATA code... I find a route operated by 10 airlines... LONDON - NEW YORK 1. British
42 Gemini573 : As you said, the number of carriers between BKK-HKG and BKK-SIN are pretty close. I wonder which city pairs has more daily flights? I think that BKK-
43 Post contains links KEno : From the archive... RE: Cities Connected By The Most Carriers (by KEno Nov 19 2004 in Civil Aviation) Back in Nov 2004 the Top 4 routes were as below,
44 Cedarjet : I think it's worth mentioning Iranian domestic routes here. I think Tehran-Mashhad and Tehran-Kish would be right up there. Tehran to Mashhad includes
45 Richierich : Who knew?! Thanks for the input. That would not have been a city pair I would have thought of.
46 Abrelosojos : = Bombay - Delhi also has service by Air India Express which makes it 10 airlines. 11 if you count Indus Air with same aircraft immediate connection.
47 PU752 : Montevideo - Buenos Aires air shuttle with up to 30 one way freqs during high season peak, today there are 16 daily flights between MVD and EZE/AEP. R
48 Cedarjet : Indeed. Check out this INCREDIBLE trip report / article about the (yes) Saha 707 by Jan Koppen, you'll see halfway down, there's a pic of the departu
49 Post contains images PlymSpotter : They are still technically different companies and seperate airlines though Dan
50 Aloha73G : Huh? What determines if an aircraft is domestic? Hawai'i routes have had widebodies for many years due to their length (ETOPS) and the volume of traf
51 N770WD : For February 2007, specific to airport pairs BKK-HKG 14 9I, AI, AY, CI, CX, EK, ET, GF, KQ, N8, OX, PK, TG, UL SIN-CGK 9 AI, EK, GA, KI, LH, PR, QR, S
52 FLLspoter : Hawaii and alaska are not consideder domestic by most airlines because you have to spend more miles to get there than other domestic flights Joe
53 Cloudyapple : Make it 12. Thai Sky has ceased and Hong Kong Airlines flies to Phuket, not Bangkok. Air Hong Kong, Saudi Arabian and Martinair fly freighters to Ban
54 Post contains images N1120A : Only two of those airlines actually fly the route, AA and UA. Actually, that would be 8th freedom rights, because it would be cabotage. Does American
55 Swissgabe : Around two-three years ago there was a topic with the same subject. At that time I remember that SIN-CGK, BKK-SIN and HKG-BKK where in the top 3 routi
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