FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3174 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
In the tradition of all those other aviation threads, I thought "why not start one for Indiana?" It doesn't matter whether we're taking IND, FWA, SBN, EVV, GYY, or whatever... as long as it's in the State of Indiana, it's fair game.
I'll start out with these questions. First, now that Allegiant can be found at both SBN and FWA, is EVV next? I think EVV is ripe for G4.
Secondly, how is SkyValue/Xtra Airways doing at GYY? I've heard mixed things.
Thirdly, will AirTran actually enter FWA? My hometown airport could still use some more competition, and we were in the top 5 cities in terms of votes in FL's poll.
And no Indiana thread would be complete without mentioning IND. Once the new terminal opens in about a year and a half, I'm wondering how the gates will be allocated... will NW and FL get more dedicated gates, or will it be a common-use system?
Feel free to answer these questions and add your own!
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3174 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2305 times:
Quoting COSPN (Reply 1): Whatever happend to the proposed IND-EVV FWA flights the state was going to subsidize ???
The proposed intrastate flights went by the wayside after ATA decided to shut down their ATA Connection division. IND-FWA barely lasted four months, and IND-GYY never started... not sure about IND-EVV.
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1812 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2164 times:
Hmm, a few things I will throw out there.
First of all, what's the deal with Airtran and IND? It sounded like it was going to be a focus city for them. FL even signed Peyton Manning as a spokesperson and inked an endorsement deal with the Colts. Now, they've caped out at 16 flights. At one time I applied for a recruiting position with Airtran that was to be based in IND, making me think there were plans to up operations there. Are they waiting for the new terminal? Did something else grab their attention? What's the deal?
On that note, when is BWI-IND going to start? Good way to connect your focus cities.
As far as G4, yeah, I think EVV fits its business pattern. Would the MD's have to have weight restrictions to do LAS-EVV?
I have to admit, for selfish reasons, I would love it if they had PIE-EVV. But I would only use it once a year, and only if it worked out to be a lot cheaper then RSW-EVV or RSW-IND then drive to EVV.
Jeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
Quoting LV (Reply 7): First of all, what's the deal with Airtran and IND? It sounded like it was going to be a focus city for them. FL even signed Peyton Manning as a spokesperson and inked an endorsement deal with the Colts. Now, they've caped out at 16 flights. At one time I applied for a recruiting position with Airtran that was to be based in IND, making me think there were plans to up operations there. Are they waiting for the new terminal? Did something else grab their attention? What's the deal?
They cannot keep employees. You cannot add flights if you don't have the people to work them.
You are now free to be sexually harassed and then terminated for filing a complaint--Southwest Airlines to me.
AmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
If I remember, ATA Connection (flew by "Chicago Express") was doing very well with flights to/from MDW. Do you think ATA would re-start ATA Connection to provide feeder for Southwest and ATA in MDW (and perhaps, feeder for Southwest in IND)???
What happened to Chicago Express certification? I recalled they were sold at auction but heard nothing after that.
It will not be a common use system. This information comes directly from those in charge. There will likely be some common use gates but there will be normal gate leases just like almost all U.S. airports.
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1812 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2096 times:
Quoting Jeremy (Reply 8): They cannot keep employees. You cannot add flights if you don't have the people to work them.
Let me guess, someone else is paying a buck more an hour so people get their foot in the door at FL then go to someone else.
It's a shame that's happening, but you get what you pay for. Everyone in Indy I have talked to who have flown FL have good things to say about them. The IND-RSW flights are becoming just about a shuttle for my family.
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3174 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2066 times:
Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 5): 1. When is LAF going to get commerical air service again, if ever?
2. When is B6 going to start JFK-IND (and I am convinced it is only a matter of time)?
1) Don't expect LAF to get scheduled air service ever again. As others have said, despite the presence of big companies like Subaru, Wabash National, and Caterpillar (and Purdue University, of course), it's too close to IND. Plus, due to its proximity to IND, LAF isn't eligible for EAS subsidies.
2) I, too, think it's not a matter of if but when JetBlue starts IND, but at the same time, I wouldn't expect B6 to jump into this super-crowded market quite yet. Fares from NYC to IND are already very reasonable, and the incumbent carriers fly the route often: US Express to LGA 6x daily, NW to LGA 4x daily (3x Airlink CRJ/1x mainline DC-9), DL Connection to JFK 2x daily, and CO 5x daily to EWR (4x Express/1x mainline). Plus the recent PR fallout over the East Coast delays may have given B6 a pre-announcement black eye. Personally, I'd like to see B6 come into FWA with the E190s instead of duking it out with the heavyweights at IND, as we still lack nonstop service to the NYC area.
Quoting LV (Reply 11): IND a hassle? I guess you must be talking about the drive. IND is one of the easiest airports to get through. Grant it, the terminal is showing it's age, but that's why they are building a new one.
Of course the drive is a hassle. But there's also the fact that a lot of people in my area who fly out of IND for cheap fares have to stay overnight near the airport in order to actually catch that $69 departure to MCO that departs at 7 in the morning. Plus there's the issues of parking and the last 5 miles of I-69 which can get so packed and dizzying at times. Granted, IND is one of the easier major airports to get around and through... but you can't change the drive in any way, shape, or form.
Just before or after Okun renegged on his bid, the certificate expired.
I could see B6 coming to IND in 6-18 months. Not sure what I think about B6 and/or FL coming to FWA. I see FWA as being pretty similar to PIA, in terms of city size, proximity to other large and small markets, etc. And PIA does seem (IIRC) to have more service than FWA...so it would make sense for FWA to get more service I suppose.
SmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1599 posts, RR: 33 Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1906 times:
As a Hoosier (now transplanted to London, UK), this is a very interesting thread to me!
My hometown airport is FWA. Every time I fly (especially my FWA-London, UK flights several times a year for school), I use my hometown airport; it's so convenient and I even get great fares from there. Plus it's full of memories for me.
I have been wondering...What is the "ultimate" future for FWA (airport-wise and air traffic-wise)?
Will FWA always be a largely regional airport (with one or two LCCs like Allegiant around)? I can remember the days long ago (in my ancient youth) when FWA was served by DL, UA, AA, NW, and Piedmont mainline (727s, 737s, MDs, etc) when it was paradoxically a smaller airport.
Will it grow any bigger in the foreseeable future? I have seen its 20-year master plan (back in 2003), with grandiose plans for a new midfield terminal between the existing runway 5-23 and a new parallel 5-23. But I am well aware of how grand master plans for airports can be! (Never mind that their terminal was rebuilt and enlarged in 1996, with 4 jetways that are underutilised).
Now that FWA has Allegiant, will it attract any other LCCs in the future? Or will FWA sort of stagnate in its present state?
By the way, how large will the city of Fort Wayne, IN, eventually get?
Speculate away--it ought to be an interesting discussion!
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