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XJT To Fly For DL Out Of LAX!  
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9379 times:

This is per an internal website. ExpressJet will begin flying as Delta Connection out of LAX on routes to SLC, Mexico, and other locations in California. Look for the press release tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen. Good news indeed.


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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9356 times:

So are they going to have a base in LAX as well as ONT?

User currently offlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9359 times:

How many aircraft does ASA have on these routes now, given that XJ will replace ASA....

User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9352 times:

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 1):
So are they going to have a base in LAX as well as ONT?

Yes, that will be the case. Who would have thought? I was thinking the DL flying would be based out of SLC.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9331 times:

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 2):
How many aircraft does ASA have on these routes now, given that XJ will replace ASA....

I saw somewhere (either here or on FlyerTalk) that ASA is operating about 6-7 CRJs out of LAX currently. Keep in mind though that more expansion is coming...and I wouldn't be surprised if more came (since the already announced service should be no more than 2 more planes).


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3308 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9330 times:

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 2):
given that XJ will replace ASA...

XJ is Mesaba, not ExpressJet..... Mesaba will not be replacing ASA....


User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9226 times:

Quoting WestIndian425 (Reply 3):
I was thinking the DL flying would be based out of SLC.

Pinnacle is rumored to have SLC for Delta.


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9133 times:

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 5):
XJ is Mesaba, not ExpressJet..... Mesaba will not be replacing ASA....

I think he knew that. A lot of people on here shorten ExpressJet to XJ, not referring to that as the actual airline code, but rather just an abbreviation. Most of them know that XJ is mesaba.



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User currently offlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9081 times:

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 7):
Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 5):XJ is Mesaba, not ExpressJet..... Mesaba will not be replacing ASA....
I think he knew that. A lot of people on here shorten ExpressJet to XJ, not referring to that as the actual airline code, but rather just an abbreviation. Most of them know that XJ is mesaba.

Exactly.

Since XJet (the branded side) has come on-line, it's easier than ever to reference them as XJ.

But, back to the question earlier - anyone know how many ASA RJ's are used out of LAX right now...


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8927 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 4):
Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 2):
How many aircraft does ASA have on these routes now, given that XJ will replace ASA....
I saw somewhere (either here or on FlyerTalk) that ASA is operating about 6-7 CRJs out of LAX currently. Keep in mind though that more expansion is coming...and I wouldn't be surprised if more came (since the already announced service should be no more than 2 more planes).

That would certainly fit with the rumors that the new carrier is supposed to operate 10 RJs for Delta. Around 7 to replace ASA, 3 more for expansion, would make sense.


User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 731 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8846 times:

The XJ being used to identify ExpressJet on here is simply people trying to shorten the NYSE stock symbol for ExpressJet which is XJT or people not knowing that XJ is Mesaba Airlines and NOT ExpressJet. I've posted this several times but ExpressJet is:

2-letter: XE
3-letter: BTA
NYSE: XJT
and branded/internally sometimes: XJet

[Edited 2007-03-01 14:22:29]


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8777 times:

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 6):
Pinnacle is rumored to have SLC for Delta.

A rumor with zero substance to back it up......
Wishful thinking more or less on some 9E pilots.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8691 times:

Expressjet has been confirmed:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070301/nyth057.html?.v=84

Quote:
HOUSTON, March 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: XJT - News) today announced that its subsidiary, ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., signed a two-year capacity purchase agreement with Delta Air Lines, Inc. The deal will cover 10 ERJ-145XR aircraft that will be placed into service during June 2007. Delta will be responsible for scheduling, marketing, pricing and revenue management on the aircraft and will collect all passenger revenues. ExpressJet will operate, maintain and finance the aircraft.

"We are pleased to have ExpressJet join the Delta Connection Program," said Shawn Anderson, Delta's vice president in charge of the Delta Connection program. "We decided to partner with them because of their strong operating performance and the capabilities of their ERJ-145XR fleet that will enable Delta to offer customers more choices to and from the Western ski markets and into Delta's hub in Los Angeles."


Hubbing out of LAX, as expected, though the "Western ski markets" part sounds rather interesting, wonder what kind of routes that'll include.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8680 times:

EGE/JAC/HDN/MTJ type of stuff, although other than the SoCal markets, is this service redundant to SLC?

Don't know in an ERJ can get into ASE.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8524 times:

DL refers to LAX as a hub in this press statement, rather than a focus city.
That means their hubs are ATL/CVG/JFK/SLC/LAX? Does UA consider LAX a hub?
-A



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User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8487 times:

I would qualify the term "hub" by adding calling it an international hub (as opposed to a domestic hub).

User currently offlineXJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2473 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 10):
The XJ being used to identify ExpressJet on here is simply people trying to shorten the NYSE stock symbol for ExpressJet which is XJT or people not knowing that XJ is Mesaba Airlines and NOT ExpressJet. I've posted this several times but ExpressJet is:

2-letter: XE
3-letter: BTA
NYSE: XJT
and branded/internally sometimes: XJet

Because folks, lets face it, I never, in my life, worked or am working for ExpressJet.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 7):
I think he knew that. A lot of people on here shorten ExpressJet to XJ, not referring to that as the actual airline code, but rather just an abbreviation. Most of them know that XJ is mesaba.

Nope...alot of people ask me if i work for or used to work for ExpressJet. So most people don't know. XE is expressJet folks.

Quoting WestIndian425 (Thread starter):
ExpressJet will begin flying as Delta Connection out of LAX on routes to SLC, Mexico, and other locations in California.

What happened with Chautauqua flying the ERJs for DCI?

XJR



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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8436 times:

So how many Connection carriers does this give Delta?

Comair...ASA...SkyWest... Mesa... CHQ...Xjet... am I missing any?

How does that compare to United or US?



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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8415 times:

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 17):
Comair...ASA...SkyWest... Mesa... CHQ...Xjet... am I missing any?

Don't forget Shuttle America.

US still has more because of their wholly-owned Express carriers, but DL seems determined to catch up...

US: (9) Trans States, Air Wisconsin, Mesa, Chautauqua, Republic, Colgan Air, PSA, Piedmont, Air Midwest
UA: (7) Trans States, ScabJets, Chautauqua, Mesa, Colgan Air, Shuttle America, SkyWest
DL: (7) Comair, ASA, SkyWest, Chautauqua, Mesa, ExpressJet, Shuttle America



USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8387 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 18):
Don't forget Shuttle America.

US still has more because of their wholly-owned Express carriers, but DL seems determined to catch up...

US: (9) Trans States, Air Wisconsin, Mesa, Chautauqua, Republic, Colgan Air, PSA, Piedmont, Air Midwest
UA: (7) Trans States, ScabJets, Chautauqua, Mesa, Colgan Air, Shuttle America, SkyWest
DL: (7) Comair, ASA, SkyWest, Chautauqua, Mesa, ExpressJet, Shuttle America

Delta actually has 8 now, as you forgot about Big Sky, soon to operate BE1s out of BOS.


User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8246 times:

This has been talked about and talked about and talked about, and a couple of us have been hinting to this, but nobody has ever picked up on it and others didn't believe. I'm looking through my old post to find the exact one, but I wrote about this before XpressJet announced their initial plans for their stand alone operation.

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8234 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 13):
EGE/JAC/HDN/MTJ type of stuff

What about just DEN?

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 13):
Don't know in an ERJ can get into ASE.

Aspen does NOT need more capacity. Flights are empty as it is. EGE would be plenty.

Will this mean we will see sandwhiches/better snacks on these flights? Specifically, LAX-SEA?

I am thinking DL will expand XE to: DEN, PHX, and PDX.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 21):
Will this mean we will see sandwhiches/better snacks on these flights? Specifically, LAX-SEA?

No. The contracting carrier sets specs for on-board service. Unless DL's going to pay XE to serve that stuff, it's not going to happen.



USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 12):
Hubbing out of LAX, as expected, though the "Western ski markets" part sounds rather interesting,

And remember it isn't just Colorado with the big ski resorts.....Of course there is Sun Valley Idaho, also Sunriver OR, Mammoth CA, and Tahoe CA...Whistler BC is huge, but the best way there is via YVR.



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User currently offlineCsturdiv From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 1515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8094 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 19):
DL: (7) Comair, ASA, SkyWest, Chautauqua, Mesa, ExpressJet, Shuttle America

Delta actually has 8 now, as you forgot about Big Sky, soon to operate BE1s out of BOS.

Wasn't there a carrier called Freedom Air flying Delta Express routes as well?



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25 WhatUsaid : That's part of Mesa....
26 Belizexp : As of this summer it will be as follow Comair, SkyWest, ASA, Chautauqua, Shuttle America, Freedom, Mesa, ExpressJet, Big Sky,
27 ASEFlyer : I don't know how people would take the ERJs into EGE when they can fly on a 757 from LAX on American. DL should add 75 service from LAX. Empty? Maybe
28 DeltAirlines : Not quite - Mesa doesn't actually fly for Delta. All flights are on Freedom, since Mesa as itself can't fly for Delta due to it flying planes with gr
29 Goldenshield : Weight restrictions to SLC? Well, maybe a little sometimes, but nowhere near an empty plane.
30 WestIndian425 : The EMB 145XR's weight restriction is basically the MGTOW. Those A1E engines are more than enough to give that aircraft the edge performance-wise. In
31 PSU.DTW.SCE : Most of the service into EGE is subsidize/contracted by Vail Resorts. Prior to each season, Vail Resorts negotiates the service into EGE with the air
32 Goldenshield : Yeah, that's great for sea level. Give me an answer for takeoff out of ASE with a 150 mile alternate in the dead of summer.[Edited 2007-03-02 06:06:4
33 Jkudall : Routes from SLC...including routes that already exist.
34 Floridaflyboy : I don't doubt that you get that question, but I think the overwhelming majority of people who use XJ on this forum are like me and are just too lazy
35 Ejmmsu : It dosn't change the fact that XJ means mesaba, and XJ does not mean Expressjet. For the sake of correctness, any time someone uses XJ for Expressjet
36 Post contains images GoBoeing : Great to see flying being awarded to quality companies. I wonder if XJT would consider a dual crew base, similar to that used by airlines that base cr
37 Hawaiian717 : Considering the traffic in the region and the distance between LAX and ONT, I wouldn't consider it feasible to have a crew arrive at ONT and have to
38 Ejmmsu : Yes It still doesn't change the fact that XJ means mesaba, and XJ does not mean Expressjet. For the sake of correctness, any time someone uses XJ for
39 SHUPirate1 : Travis, don't tell the Air Line Pilots Association this, but GoJets' pilots are actually unionized...
40 FlyPNS1 : See this is what is crazy about the connection carrier business. DL is now giving business to XJT. XJT can then use those profits to subsidize its ind
41 Floridaflyboy : I guess it makes some people on this forum feel "important"to correct someone for something that doesn't really matter at all. If we know what it mea
42 Drewwright : The crews will most likely not be mixed. ONT is pretty far from LAX anyway. In which markets will XJT be competing with DL or CO? I don't see any com
43 Delta787 : Although ExpressJet is a good airline, I still dont like the idea of another Delta Connection airline.
44 FlyPNS1 : While there's no direct pairs, it's still competition. Let's say I live in RDU and want to fly to MSY. I could fly DL RDU-ATL-MSY. Now when XJT arriv
45 WestIndian425 : Okay....how about Saltillo, MX? The XR can do that easily -- spring, summer, fall, and winter -- with driftdown alternates or terrain clearance alter
46 Drewwright : I dont think the majors will be sweating over little 'ol XJET. There is only so much one can do with a limited amount of RJs. Unfortunately, all it wo
47 ThePinnacleKid : They'll be doing just fine on the contract. It has to be at least the same values as the current contract with Continental if not higher rate... Othe
48 Floridaflyboy : I understand and agree that it matters in the workplace. I just don't see why people have to nit-pick and jump all over each other on this forum when
49 Goldenshield : The 4778 ft at Saltillo is not the 7820 ft at Aspen. Also, looking at the satilite image, it looks like they depart south out of Satillo, which provi
50 WestIndian425 : In my opinion it's semantics. To each his own.[Edited 2007-03-04 05:19:04]
51 WestIndian425 : Ahhh..I see. Well the max pressure altitude the XR can take off is 10000 feet. That should count for something, since it's compared to the 8000-foot
52 XJET : Nope. LAX is going to be another base altogether. It will consist of 100 flight crews opening June 1st. This is true. But, don't forget. That rule is
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