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Boeing Orders For 02/27/2007  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

Here's Boeing weekly order update:

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

3 x 788 for AZAL
2 x 739ER for AZAL
4 x 787 UFO
6 x 767 UFO
4 x 77W for TAM taken out of UFO

Boeing now has 64 total orders.

[Edited 2007-03-01 16:34:23]


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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

A much slower year than the last two for the 737. I wonder where all the 737 orders have run off to? Good to see the wide body orders are doing well though. Another surprise order for the 767, I wonder who it could be that placed it.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

I think the 767 will do extremely well this year. Boeing has morethan enough bridging between the 767 and the 767-200LRFX for the KC-X


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Wow, the 767 sure is on a rule this year. 767 FTW Big grin ! Gotta wonder who those'll be for.

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 1):
A much slower year than the last two for the 737.

I thought the 737 line was sold out for sometime?

Looks good with all those widebody orders!

Wonder when the BA order will post up their?



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User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

Who woulda thought the 767 would be leading the Boeing order race this year?? I suppose it is the only widebody that has order availability in the short term and it is a solid, passenger pleasing plane. I wonder what kind they are?

User currently offlineNoWorries From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3785 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 4):
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 1):
A much slower year than the last two for the 737.

I thought the 737 line was sold out for sometime?

Also wondering if Airbus isn't talking with customers about the 320E, causing some hesitation. For that matter, Boeing may be talking with customers about Y1, also casuing some hesitation. Seems likely there'll be some large 737 replacement orders in the next few years, big customers may be thinking about how to split (or avoid splitting) between 737NG and Y1 as they transition (not that they want to split between two models, there may just be no way to avoid it given the large numbers of aircraft needed and Boeing picking some point in time to switch over)..


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

So the Azerbaijan press release may have been inaccurate in stating a total of 468 orders for the 787.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31442 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3691 times:
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Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 5):
Who woulda thought the 767 would be leading the Boeing order race this year?? I suppose it is the only widebody that has order availability in the short term and it is a solid, passenger pleasing plane.

Oddly enough, availability should be terrible since I believe Boeing has slowed the production rate to something like one a month (as of 2003) to stretch them out as long as they can until the KC-767 order is approved (Boeing hopes).


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 8):
Oddly enough, availability should be terrible since I believe Boeing has slowed the production rate to something like one a month (as of 2003) to stretch them out as long as they can until the KC-767 order is approved (Boeing hopes).

Boeing did indeed cut it down to 1 per month, but remember that in wake of the UPS order Boeing also announced that they were upping production back to 2 planes per month, so there's indeed some availability again. And I'm sure that if Boeing sees the demand, they could also go up to 3 per month.


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7202 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 1):
I wonder where all the 737 orders have run off to?

Probably the airlines figure since they can't get them for about five years they might as well wait and see what else develops (Y1, A320RS, UFO's, whatever.)



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31442 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
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Quoting SEPilot (Reply 10):


Quoting DAYflyer,reply=1:

I wonder where all the 737 orders have run off to?

Probably the airlines figure since they can't get them for about five years they might as well wait and see what else develops (Y1, A320RS, UFO's, whatever.)

Indeed, many of the orders might have been "topping-off" orders to hold them over till around 2012 when it appears Y1 could conceivably be EIS'd and the A320E, at least, should be available for sale.


User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Oh dear! What a terrible book to have after 2 months. Sure, the 787 continues its steady rise. The 777 holds steady. The 767 experiences a miraculous resergence. But the 737 has collapsed! And with that, any hope Boeing has of remaining top. Without a selling narrowbody, no amount of widebody performance will enable Boeing to rise above the juggernaut that is the A320. And with the A330F, the widebody battle has become more heated so Boeing can't rest on its laurels there either. Being smaller and lighter than the 777F, it has a larger market.

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Quoting Glom (Reply 12):
Oh dear! What a terrible book to have after 2 months. Sure, the 787 continues its steady rise. The 777 holds steady. The 767 experiences a miraculous resergence. But the 737 has collapsed! And with that, any hope Boeing has of remaining top. Without a selling narrowbody, no amount of widebody performance will enable Boeing to rise above the juggernaut that is the A320. And with the A330F, the widebody battle has become more heated so Boeing can't rest on its laurels there either. Being smaller and lighter than the 777F, it has a larger market.

I think Boeing would rather have a their order book than the problems that are enveloping Airbus.

Two months doesn't make their entire year. The next ten months will make the year both manufacturers.
BTW, I think Airbus is going to be floored when Boeing goes to Paris at the end of June.



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User currently offlineThebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3147 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 13):
I think Boeing would rather have a their order book than the problems that are enveloping Airbus.

Well stated, NYC777. This is so far starting out as a GREAT year for (higher margin) wide-body sales at Boeing. There are really no gaps in Boeing's line-up. They're burning on all cylinders now, and the 787 + 747-8 programs are both on-track.


User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Quoting Glom (Reply 12):
Oh dear! What a terrible book to have after 2 months.

I believe Boeing's orders at the end of February are about equal to what they were last year at the same point, the year in which Boeing had its best sales performance ever on the commercial side.

And as NYC777 pointed out, above, I doubt Boeing would want to swap positions with Airbus right now, even if they are lagging them by a 2 - 1 margin.

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R



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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 15):
I believe Boeing's orders at the end of February are about equal to what they were last year at the same point, the year in which Boeing had its best sales performance ever on the commercial side

Well that's comforting to know, but I don't believe Airbus was doing that much better at the time. Whereas now they are thanks to the A320 and the A330F.


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