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THAI/Vietnam Both To Launch TPE-LAX  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

http://news.money.chinatimes.com/CMo...ent+120601+122007030500400,00.html

Taiwan's Chinatimes on 05MAR07 has a report of interview with China Airlines' CEO.

The CEO says 2007 will still be a tough year in terms of competition, particularly both THAI and Vietnam Airlines will launch Taipei-Los Angeles flight this year.

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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4770 times:

I want to see Air Vietnam, not Vietnam Airlines.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Is there an English version of that report available?

How many airlines does that make flying LAX-TPE? SQ, BR, and CI I can think of off-hand - and now TG and VN? What is that going to do to yields?



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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

MH also flies LAX-TPE.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

I don't get this. Can any airline fly TPE-USA? What are the rights here?


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User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

Taiwan and USA have open skies so guess so seems LAX-TPE flights are well served..cant the T7 Make SGN/HAN-LAX ??

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

Quoting Cospn (Reply 5):
cant the T7 Make SGN/HAN-LAX ??

It can make HAN-LAX, but not SGN-LAX. SGN is a stronger market than HAN, which is problematic. Still, the ability to carry passengers on all 3 sectors is attractive.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
SQ, BR, and CI I can think of off-hand - and now TG and VN? What is that going to do to yields?

Not much of anything. The yields and traffic on the route can and have sustained more competition. Prior to their introduction of the money losing non-stop A345 service on BKK-LAX, TPE was one of the places that TG stopped with their 744s out of LAX. KIX was another.



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User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Theres is a huge Vietnamese and Thai population in LA who mostly flys CI and BR back and forth to Vietnam and Thailand. I guess their home airline wants a piece of the lucrative action.


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User currently offlineLp0815 From Singapore, joined Oct 2005, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Is that TG service TPE-LAX to be in addition of their non-stop A345 service BKK-LAX or is this the possible replacement?

It has been argued earlier on here that TG plan to discontinues their non-stop BKK-LAX.



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Current frequencies and operators on TPE-LAX....

EVA flies 17 weekly
China Airlines: 2 daily
Singapore Airlines: 1 daily
Malaysia Airlines: 1 daily

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 8):
Is that TG service TPE-LAX to be in addition of their non-stop A345 service BKK-LAX or is this the possible replacement?

Replacement


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Well I guess if their fare are lower than the competetors they would have a good chance.

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User currently offlineTsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

Not exactly on topic, but I was wondering if anyone here knew. I thought the US and Vietnam had normalized relations, and I haven't heard of any air service to Vietnam at all. Considering the large Vietnamese population in So Cal, and other SE Asian immigrants as well, how come its taken this long to start connections.Considering also that they export a large amount of goods here cargo loads should also be good. I thought UA was going to run a flight from SFO to SGN or HAN as well. Any info would be appreciated.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

Any word on if, if this report is true, AA will codeshare on VN's TPE-LAX route? I know the two airlines still haven't fully implemented their originally-planned codeshare. VN, if I'm not mistaken, is already placing its code on AA's flights from CDG, FRA and NRT to major U.S. gateways and beyond, but AA still has yet to place its AA code on VN flights from NRT, CDG and FRA to Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City. This TPE-LAX flight could signal the start of closer AA-VN cooperation but, after all, AA already codeshares extensively with EVA on all of that airlines TPE-U.S. flights, including LAX.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26025 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 11):
I thought the US and Vietnam had normalized relations, and I haven't heard of any air service to Vietnam at all.



Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 11):
I thought UA was going to run a flight from SFO to SGN or HAN as well. Any info would be appreciated.

United has operated daily service to Vietnam since 2004. B744 SFO-HKG-SGN.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4084195.stm



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

As a side note, when are we going to get pictures of a United 747-400 at SGN into the database?

I had hoped the inaugural flight would have provided an opportunity, but no. There are two great pictures of an EVA Air 747-400 there, so photography can't be completely forbidden.



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User currently offlineFXMD11 From Thailand, joined Aug 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3444 times:

Quoting Warren747sp (Reply 7):
Theres is a huge Vietnamese and Thai population in LA who mostly flys CI and BR back

Correct.In fact L.A.Area has the largest Thai population worldwide after Thailand itself and is considered 4 th
biggest"Thai"City.YES,Thai's and also Tourists bounding for Thailand use BR and CI, as they are normally
30% cheaper than the Naional Carrier,TG.However,I am hesitating to see this coming as this would basically
mean they either cancel the 340 Nonstop or add a 2nd flight with the 777 may be.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3375 times:

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 8):
It has been argued earlier on here that TG plan to discontinues their non-stop BKK-LAX.

And there has been another discussion about TG's plan to up their nonstop US flights to daily, as opposed to their present measly 4 times.

Vietnam, although arrivals into the country is on the up-trend, is still a terribly low-yielding destination (HAN and SGN). With more business opportunities growing, this might change. Additionally, Tan Son Nhat (SGN) will soon see the opening of brand new terminal that is currently under contruction, underlining the government's push to keep Vietnam on par with her neighbours. I have recently taken 2 flights to/from Saigon and you can have a view of the airport via the photos in my trip report.

Singapore - Saigon
Saigon - Singapore



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3122 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
I don't get this. Can any airline fly TPE-USA? What are the rights here?



Quoting Cospn (Reply 5):
Taiwan and USA have open skies so guess so seems LAX-TPE flights are well served..cant the T7 Make SGN/HAN-LAX ??

I'm sure they will be 5th freedom services with the flights originating/terminating at SGN for VN and at BKK for TG with a stop at TPE. 7th freedom rights to operate stand-alone service between two foreign countries without any link to the home country of the airline are extremely rare apart from certain cargo services, and of course within the EU "single market".


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2745 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3100 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
It can make HAN-LAX, but not SGN-LAX. SGN is a stronger market than HAN, which is problematic. Still, the ability to carry passengers on all 3 sectors is attractive.

I would think that a SGN-HAN-LAX-HAN-SGN trip would be a good routing. I was in Vietnam last year and much preferred HAN over SGN from a tourist perspective.


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