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Mabuhay! Philippine Aviation Thread #1  
User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9985 times:

Mabuhay and welcome to the first edition of A.net's Philippine Aviation Thread!

Since we're moving a tad bit off topic in the Manila - View At thread, I guess we can move our discussions pertaining to the Philippine commercial aviation industry over here. Big grin

Gonna jump start this thread with a few articles. Some you might have already read and some that is new. Enjoy:

ABS-CBN - MIAA Postpones NAIA-3 opening

Quote:

The much-delayed opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport-Terminal 3 scheduled for the end of the month has been postponed again, DZMM reported Monday.

The latest postponement was due to the decision of the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) based on the recommendations of engineers and the Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited, an engineering services and design firm.

Orient Aviation - PAL pulls out all the stops

Quote:
Philippine Airlines (PAL) president, Jaime Bautista, has dragged the airline from the depths of bankruptcy to financial health and industry respectability. Its latest financial year, with net profits rising a hefty 63% to US$28.7 million, represents its best result in over a decade. TOM BALLANTYNE talked to Bautista about the next phase of the PAL revival story.

Sun Star Davao - Lufthansa eyes Davao market

Quote:
OFFICIALS of German airline Lufthansa were in Davao City over the weekend as the airline company took part in the recently concluded Davao Travel Show 2007.

Headed by the general manager for the Philippines Christopher Zimmer, Lufthansa participated in the three-day long event in order to "get a picture" of the tourism market in Davao City.

"We are basically here to do a feasibility study on the market of Davao City," Zimmer told Sun.Star Davao.

Asian Spirit Mulls Flights on Incheon to Davao, Boracay Routes


Quote:
Seoul Times - Asian Spirit(6K), one of the leading budget air carriers of the Philippines, is making a push for flight service on Incheon-Davao and Incheon-Boracay route respectively starting in mid March, according to a senior official at Asia Spirit Korea here.

Let the discussions begin!


"Ladies and Gentlemen it's happy hour. You will get two approaches for the price of one."
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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9983 times:

PIA are supposed to be starting MNL service this summer, twice weekly A310 from Karachi via Bangkok going onto Tokyo.

User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9979 times:

Kamustaka N751PR,

Any news on the new operators that are starting between Philippines and Saudi Arabia? I've heard that an airline called Tair airways is flying to JED and RUH from clark.


User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9964 times:

Hey Joe great idea to start this thread.

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 2):
Any news on the new operators that are starting between Philippines and Saudi Arabia? I've heard that an airline called Tair airways is flying to JED and RUH from clark.

They where granted to start flying in the begining of 2007 to fly three times a week from Clark-Riyadh-Jeddah using a single B747-400.

However, up to now there seems to be no word, unless im mistaken.

For now Im not even sure if a B744 has been procured yet, and not sure from whom.

Drew



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9966 times:

Its been setup by a Saudi in partnership http://www.tairairways.com/ their route map shows more planned cities.

User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9957 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 4):

Hahahaha.

This airline I have to see.

anyways Clark to BOM and DAC would be something to see.

By the way the website says B747-300 not a -400 as previously rumored.

Drew



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9935 times:

I'm curious whether the Philippine government followed through on a threat to put restrictions on pilots emigrating and working for other airlines? Any updates?


"When all is said and done, more will be said than done".
User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9912 times:

“There is a clamour from the Filipino community for PAL to fly to San Diego,” he said. “Right now, passengers from there have to take maybe a small aircraft to Los Angeles, or a bus, to connect with our LA flight. There is a big Filipino community in San Diego.”

Will the run way in San Diego be anough for a fully loaded Transpacific takeoff especially on an A340?

'There will be new seats in business and economy, with corporate travellers getting cocoon-style sleeper seats. Audio Video On Demand (AVOD) is being installed throughout. The number of seats will be reduced from 433 to 426, but there will be more in business class, increasing the higher yield component.'

This will help because a lot of business travelers avoid PAL because of this, including myself.

Bottom line is, I think this Bautista guy is doing a great job with PAL.

The Philippines government do need to find a way to open the new terminal 3 that was completed a long time ago but has never been used.



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9872 times:

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 7):
Will the run way in San Diego be anough for a fully loaded Transpacific takeoff especially on an A340?

NO. The route if opened will be a one stop service via SEA. Therfor two cities will be added to the network. It could also be added to the YVR run, if SEA isn't added.

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 7):
'There will be new seats in business and economy, with corporate travellers getting cocoon-style sleeper seats. Audio Video On Demand (AVOD) is being installed throughout. The number of seats will be reduced from 433 to 426, but there will be more in business class, increasing the higher yield component.'

Just to make the quote a bit more clear, he's talking about the B747-4F6 fleet here, and the removal of First class on all aircrafts.

By the way there is a -400 with 398 seats, so this aircraft(s) will get an increase in seat count.

Drew



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9869 times:

Vancouver / Las Vegas are increasing to 5 flights a week for the March - October period!

User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9853 times:

Quoting KL808 (Reply 8):
By the way there is a -400 with 398 seats, so this aircraft(s) will get an increase in seat count.

Why is that? Does the seats have more pitch across the board?

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 9):
Vancouver / Las Vegas are increasing to 5 flights a week for the March - October period!

Where are they getting the planes to do this? I was underthe impression all their planes are tied up right now.



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 10):
Why is that? Does the seats have more pitch across the board?

If im not mistaken the 398 seat aircraft is the ex KU aircraft, if not its the ex AC aircraft. Due to AC or KU's seat layout thats where the seat count differ. Not sure of why, it might have to do with the Galleys or toilets.

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 10):
Where are they getting the planes to do this? I was underthe impression all their planes are tied up right now.

There might be a downgrade in schedule of one of the other routes in the Asian network. By the way the extra flight departs MNL every friday.

Drew



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User currently offlineBoch From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9828 times:

All of the proposed international flights (ICN-DVO, ICN-KLO, etc) are great for the development of the Philippines, but will they be able to survive when (if?) Terminal 3 opens at NAIA?


KU, KL, PK, CO, AA, US, UA, WN, AS, FL, BR, MH, KE, OZ, PR, 5J
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9803 times:

What's the latest with SEAir operating as a Tiger Airways franchise in the Philippines?
Is this still happening?


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9802 times:

Quoting Boch (Reply 12):
All of the proposed international flights (ICN-DVO, ICN-KLO, etc) are great for the development of the Philippines, but will they be able to survive when (if?) Terminal 3 opens at NAIA?

Good question but with the Korean tourists that vacation in the Philippines especially during winter, maybe there'll be sustainable traffic between ICN and DVO/KLO. I think Koreans are very loyal to their national carriers though (KE and OZ). If they had a long enough runway in Caticlan to support a larg jet, I can see someone starting ICN-Caticlan non-stop because half of the tourists who go to Borocay are Koreans.



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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9680 times:

Kumusta to all on this thread!

Though I have been a regular traveller to the Phils for a few years, I have not ventured beyond Manila as my trips have been in order to visit the in-laws. I was wondering as this is the 1st Phils thread could you humour me here as I'm not too familiar with the IATA codes for most of the the other airports (ok DVO is a pretty obvious one!)

 Confused


User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9640 times:

Quoting KL808 (Reply 11):

If im not mistaken the 398 seat aircraft is the ex KU aircraft, if not its the ex AC aircraft. Due to AC or KU's seat layout thats where the seat count differ. Not sure of why, it might have to do with the Galleys or toilets.

Yep, that's N754PR. Big grin

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 13):
What's the latest with SEAir operating as a Tiger Airways franchise in the Philippines?
Is this still happening?

IIRC it's still on.

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 15):
Though I have been a regular traveller to the Phils for a few years, I have not ventured beyond Manila as my trips have been in order to visit the in-laws. I was wondering as this is the 1st Phils thread could you humour me here as I'm not too familiar with the IATA codes for most of the the other airports (ok DVO is a pretty obvious one!)

Here's the ones I can get off the top of my head:

BCD - Bacolod
CEB - Cebu
ILO - Iloilo
CGY - Cagayan de Oro
CTO - Cotobato
KLO - Kalibo
LAO - Laoag
LGP - Legazpi
PPS - Puerto Princessa
TAC - Tacloban
ZAM - Zamboanga



"Ladies and Gentlemen it's happy hour. You will get two approaches for the price of one."
User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9626 times:

Quoting N751PR (Reply 16):
Quoting EDICHC (Reply 15):
Though I have been a regular traveller to the Phils for a few years, I have not ventured beyond Manila as my trips have been in order to visit the in-laws. I was wondering as this is the 1st Phils thread could you humour me here as I'm not too familiar with the IATA codes for most of the the other airports (ok DVO is a pretty obvious one!)

Here's the ones I can get off the top of my head:

BCD - Bacolod
CEB - Cebu
ILO - Iloilo
CGY - Cagayan de Oro
CTO - Cotobato
KLO - Kalibo
LAO - Laoag
LGP - Legazpi
PPS - Puerto Princessa
TAC - Tacloban
ZAM - Zamboanga

Thanks for that.  thumbsup  Any idea what Tagbilaran is?


User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9623 times:

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 17):

Here are some more including Tagbilaran

TAG - Tagbilaran
GEN - General Santos
MPH - Caticlan
CRK - Clark Field

Drew



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9610 times:

Anybody know any good spotting areas in MNL? I went for dinner at this place called 'Dampa' a few months ago and it's right at the beginning of the runway. That's the only place I know. I've been staying at the Shangri-la Makati for 7 months now and I can see the whole airport from my room. Sometimes they have 4 of the 5 PAL 747's parked at the gate.


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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9593 times:

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 19):
Anybody know any good spotting areas in MNL? I went for dinner at this place called 'Dampa' a few months ago and it's right at the beginning of the runway. That's the only place I know. I've been staying at the Shangri-la Makati for 7 months now and I can see the whole airport from my room. Sometimes they have 4 of the 5 PAL 747's parked at the gate.

Will you still be there in April? Could maybe meet up? I plan on getting some local info re photo opportunities at MNL from my wife's family & friends.


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 20):
Will you still be there in April? Could maybe meet up? I plan on getting some local info re photo opportunities at MNL from my wife's family & friends.

I'll still be around. I'm here until God knows when. Send me a PM on when you're coming out here.



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9538 times:

Any news about the pax flights of TransGlobal Airways? They had plans to phase-in some MD-83/88.

User currently offlineAeroPiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9508 times:

What about PAL flights to DFW in the future, currently you have to fly AA from DFW to Japan, and catch a JAL flight to Manila. There is a significant Fillipino community in the DFW area, that would benefit from such a flight.


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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9482 times:

Quoting AeroPiggot (Reply 23):
What about PAL flights to DFW in the future, currently you have to fly AA from DFW to Japan, and catch a JAL flight to Manila. There is a significant Fillipino community in the DFW area, that would benefit from such a flight.

Unfortunately, there is no plan and rumors to open any new routes to DFW, ORD or even JFK/EWR, in the near future (+5 years).

Expect SEA and SAN within the next +5 years.



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25 Post contains images Awthompson : Check the thread I have just started also about flights to the Philippines. I have listed a choice of 17 airlines quoting return fares from LHR to Man
26 AirlineAddict : 1. N751PR - Thanks for starting the thread and for the links to the news articles. Ahhh the never ending saga of NAIA-III it's worse than the telenove
27 Post contains images Norcal773 : Good question. From what I've heard in the past, EK's 773 to and from MNL is normally packed. There's a very good chance they'll send one of their fi
28 6thfreedom : ANYONE?
29 Terryb99 : I was doing some searches last week wondering the same thing. I can find nothing beyond all the press releases making the announcement, saying it wou
30 Post contains images KL808 : Currently PR will be upgrading all of its aircrafts especially the B747-4F6's: N751PR N752PR N753PR RP-C8168 (Del to PR on 12/03 from AC ex CP) B747-
31 777way : When did Kuwait Airways operate the combi 744? I always thought they only had the single all passenger version with a presidential upper deck, operate
32 KL808 : KU intially ordered 2 B747-469M's. They where ordered with a SCD so that they can change the interior of the aircraft for Amiri flights. The current
33 N751PR : Unfortunately I haven't been too keen in being up-to-date with the RP aviation industry usually relying to what friends say and what's posted in othe
34 Post contains links Leamside : Hi guys, fyi -There is a previous discussion on Asian Spirit / TransGlobal at: RE: Asian Spirit MD-80 (by Babaero Mar 7 2007 in Civil Aviation)
35 Post contains images Macmac76 : KL 808: Gen. Santos is GES. regards, Marc
36 Post contains images N751PR : I briefly checked out that thread before I did this one...completely forgot about TransGlobal's relation w/ Asian Spirit in the MD-80 flights. My bad
37 Post contains images CityAirline : How big do you think the chance of LH starting flights to DVO is? Why not make MNL a non-stop to begin with? They (EK) are increasing flights to MNL
38 KL808 : You are correct sir, my apologies. To be honest nil. Davao though a huge city and very beautiful at that isn't as popular with tourist like Cebu, tha
39 Post contains links and images Leamside : Hi all, re Kalibo flights with reference to Asian Spirit, TransGlobal, AiResources, & Pearl Pacific Airlines , there is also another thread at: Incheo
40 Terryb99 : From your link; "Seair is applying for routes for Clark-Davao, Davao-Clark, Clark-Cebu, Cebu-Clark, Clark-Macau, Macau-Clark, and Clark-Singapore, Si
41 Post contains images San747 : Nope. YVR or SEA would be the most likely stops. Good to hear!
42 Post contains images N751PR : Indeed. If anything, we'd likely see MNL go nonstop before LH touches another Filipino city. LH going to DVO would rather be a reverse in a downsizin
43 Norcal773 : How far away is Clark Airport from Metro Manila?
44 N751PR : Around 40 miles/60 kilometers.
45 Post contains links DEVILFISH : First of all, Kudos and thanks to N751PR for starting the thread. I think a lot of people are eagerly awaiting when the Letter of Intent on these woul
46 Leamside : Thanks to horrendous traffic jams, may I add that when talking about land travel in some parts of the Philippines, it is not "how far" a destination
47 Post contains links and images Norcal773 : I went to school in LA and I never thought I'd ever see worse traffic jams up until I got to Manila...LOL I love the colors on Cebu Pacific A320. I j
48 Post contains images Confuscius : Slightly off topic, I found this picture of the old MIA terminal (circa 1970). Not quite sure what kind of aircraft, looks like a BAC One-Eleven. It m
49 Norcal773 : Does PAL subtitute the SFO-MNL route between the A343 and the 744? I believe I've seen both at SFO at some point. Do they also have many international
50 Post contains images CityAirline : SFO-MNL is flown by a 744 7/weekly and a 343 1/weekly, though I don't know if they always stick to this. In the article above, they state that MNL-LA
51 Post contains images Terryb99 : There are several international flights. Cebu Pacific flys to SIN, and I believe Silk Air also flys that route. I don't recall which one, but remembe
52 Post contains images AirlineAddict : You can throw one bikini pic into the trip report. Think of it as helping tourism! ha ha.
53 EI321 : whats phillipine airlines stance regards 787/A350 & 748/A380?
54 CityAirline : I thnik you mean QR flights to DOH? But those aren't operated via MNL, even better! They are nonstop 3/weekly. Flown by the A332 I think.
55 Post contains images KL808 : A long long time. The drive from Manila to Clark can take any where from 2 to 4 hours! Because of lack of direct highways/freeway, to me the airport
56 Post contains images CityAirline : OK, that sounds reasonable, thanks The stop in SIN was cut a couple of moths ago, so it's nonstop now... //Alex
57 Awthompson : Maybe this is where the confusion arose: Up until late last year Qatar operated its Doha to Cebu flights via Singapore but towards the end of 2006 ga
58 Mham001 : If I am in Manila, Clark is pretty much a non-option. 3 hours and $60 cab ride. Anywhere south of the MNL center - forget it.
59 Leamside : A few years back a few biased people in a Philippine forum mocked at PAL's plans to add a 747 & to acquire 777s. Fast forward to the present. PAL has
60 KL808 : Oh wow, I guess I was getting behind the times. Great news indeed. Thats right there was plans to add a 6th 747-4F6. This aircraft if the deal went t
61 Post contains links Norcal773 : Ha haa... I'm tempted but then again I don't want a suspension. Anybody know what happened with this story regarding GF? http://www.asiasentinel.com/
62 Post contains links Leamside : Does anyone know what's going on with MOSPHIL AERO? For those unfamiliar, Mosphil operates (or used to operate) the russian made AN-24 between Zamboan
63 Rwy31R : Hello All! Any idea why PR cut all it's flights to Saudi? Any palans to fly to Saudi again? SV has also cut some flights. It is a needed and busy rout
64 KL808 : PR started downsizing its routes to the Middle East after its financial woes. The last route to be taken out was RYH. The reason for the pull out was
65 AirlineAddict : Unfortunately, here's the answer: 644 seats on the A380 will significantly drop CASM compared to PR, SV, etc. Most of the workers headed to the Middl
66 DYK : Does anybody out there have info on how PR is doing on the MNL-YVR-LAS route, particularly the YVR-LAS segment?
67 KL808 : Its doing really well, so much so that they just increased it from 4 to 5 times weekly. There are a lot of filipino's in LAS, though PR is not the ch
68 Mham001 : Speaking of cheap. Where are the deals from SFO or LAX to MNL? Im getting quotes of about $750 RT(total) right now.[Edited 2007-03-11 01:56:46]
69 Post contains images CityAirline : Really? That's great ! But how about when (if) the SAN route gets launched? Will the MNL-YVR-LAS stay at 5/w and MNL-YVR-SAN only 2/w? And another qu
70 KL808 : Who knows. As of right now PR doesn't have the aircraft to operate SAN, so with the arrival of another Widebody in the fleet this might come into fru
71 Post contains links Leamside : There is a very good and fairly in-depth recent article entitled "PAL pulls out all the stops" which I consider a must read & where I think some of th
72 6thfreedom : M****** 12:30a JED SV 5:45p MNL I1 SV 0860 1-Stop 742 12:15 [via RUH) *****S* 5:00p JED SV 10:00a+1 MNL I1 SV 0870 1-Stop 742 12:00 [via DMM] *T*****
73 Norcal773 : NW has a sale SFO-MNL for $2237 in World Business class. The sale has been on for about 6 months now. A hell of a lot cheaper than any other carrier
74 Post contains images N751PR : It can also be found @ LAX as well here and there. I took advantage of this offer last December with a routing of LAX-NRT-MNL-NRT-PDX-LAX (PDX-LAX on
75 Norcal773 : It' a hell of a deal because their service is superb compared to JL's which is twice the price. Looking forward to the TR, I just did one myself on N
76 Rwy31R : AMEN!
77 Post contains links DEVILFISH : As has been started as the subject of another thread, Cebu Pacific has agreed to order another 10 A320s directly from Airbus, with 5 + 5 options.....
78 Post contains links KL808 : Congrats to 5J on their new order. I would have expected more A319's though. On a side note, Asian Spirit has finally got their MD-82 ex CO. These wil
79 Post contains links Leamside : FYI- Hong Kong Air is planning to start Davao-Hong Kong v.v. in May or June. It is said to use a 164 seater Boeing. "Asian Spirit is set to launch its
80 Crownvic : Just got back from MNL this past week. I had one heck of a time shooting at that airport. Not only is photography not allowed (as has been reported by
81 Leamside : I understand there is not going to be any removal of First Class seats from the present 747 fleet in the immediate future. This is due to costs invol
82 Post contains links DEVILFISH : In what may be common knowledge already so nobody bothered to post it here, PAL and Boeing has saved formal announcement of their two 77W firm orders
83 Post contains links Norcal773 : http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2007/q1/070315a_pr.html This PAL 773 looks AWESOME!
84 Post contains images N751PR : Prior to PR's research for a widebody replacement, who would've thunk that we'd be seeing a 777 in PR colors in the world beyond the FS realm.
85 Leamside : fyi - PAL increases MNL-SFO frequency to 9X per week starting Apr 22 to May 20. Whereas nowadays the 2nd flight is on Fridays, there will be a 2nd fli
86 LurveBus : Okayzie, my first post on a-net, so might as well post in the thread that talks about the aviation scene of my own backyard. So, if there's anything n
87 Post contains links Leamside : The Manila Times reports that Asian Spirit is buying 5 BAe 146's. See discussion at Asian Spirit MD-80 (by Leamside Feb 24 2007 in Civil Aviation) Rea
88 SANFan : A question to anyone with good PR knowledge to speculate on: with the apparent interest by the airline in starting service to SAN (via YVR is most oft
89 DEVILFISH : I had seen an extensive article in Airways about aircraft coming from Aegean or some other Mediterranean carrier.
90 KL808 : This will not happen. PR doesn't have 5th freedom rights from any US port. That's why they want to fly out of YVR! By flying YVR-SAN-YVR they can at
91 Post contains images LurveBus : Well, yeah, that and being able to sell SFO-SAN would be cabotage Even if they could sell SFO-SAN, the SFO stop is more unattractive than YVR, as fli
92 Post contains images CityAirline : Hey all! Some good knews about MNL: Preliminary statistics from ACI says that MNL experienced a 8.9% increase in 2006 compared to 2005 and jumped from
93 Post contains images SANFan : I wanted to clarify my post (#88 on 3/22) and reply to Drew (KL808) and LurveBus (thanks to both of you for the feedback.) I was not implying that PR
94 Coronado990 : Five years!!!! That would not make since. I would suggest MNL-LAS non-stop and LAS-GUM-MNL on the return if Las Vegas is that popular of a destinatio
95 Post contains images LurveBus : Haha, yeah, unfortunately, PR's current fleet is overutilized as it is. Their only options to make money out of their spare A343 were to fly them via
96 Post contains images CityAirline : Hey! Some nice news are that OZ is increasing it's presence even more in MNL. From the end of March they're increasing their frequencies on ICN-MNL fr
97 LurveBus : Wow. PR just doubled their frequencies to ICN and increased their PUS frequencies, too. Looks like even more Koreans are coming in with all this extr
98 Post contains links Leamside : During a chat over the phone tonight with a friend who reads this thread I was asked for a more specific source of this news. Specifically the source
99 Post contains images DEVILFISH : I wonder if all six would also be 172Rs..... From the link..... Quote: "The airline may also lease a Boeing 747 this year in order to add more flight
100 Post contains links Leamside : I wrote to the Bloomberg author for more details but have not heard back from her. The 172s in your photo are from a while back but I do wonder if mo
101 KL808 : Well that makes sense since they just ordered 3 Bombardier Q300 with options for 3 more. Delivery is for some time this year. Can't find a link thoug
102 DYK : I flew PR to Vegas this weekend. First time on PR and I have to tell you guys the service was very good. Flight was packed both ways, did not see any
103 Leamside : Delivery this November is what I am hearing. Nothing official yet. Tried Googling & Dogpiling for news breaks and info but there is nothing official
104 Post contains images LurveBus : I'm doing my best to find stuff, but I can't, either. I'm surprised that such an announcement came about this week, though. It's holy week, and, as I
105 Post contains links DEVILFISH : The only thing out of the usual was the mention of the A320 lease..... http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...22/yehey/opinion/20070322opi4.html Quot
106 LurveBus : Oh, Seair is facing difficulties getting rights to operate out of CRK. I can't find the article, but it indicated that PR, 5J, and 2P have all filed c
107 Post contains links Leamside : "04-Apr-07 PHILIPPINE carriers yesterday protested plans by the government to grant foreign airlines full access to two international airports. Flag-
108 JAL : Will they ever open Terminal 3? My goodness, how long has it been? I sure hope it open soon!
109 Norcal773 : Just read in today's Philippine STAR that PAL is adding frequencies and capacity to some domestic and international routes for the next 3 months. The
110 LurveBus : Hmm... according to the PAL website, the breakdown is as follows: Beijing: from 4pw to 5pw A320 Xiamen: from ?? to daily A319/A320 Nagoya: from 6pw t
111 Post contains images Leamside : 1) With sister company Air Philippines now based at NAIA II, adding capacity & substituting for, or operating for PAL flights, it is possible to add
112 Post contains images LurveBus : haha, oh yeah, I forgot about 2P. Wow, this is something that never occurred to me. Makes sense, best to get the mx requirements over with. Reminds m
113 LHFADUS : Any "insiders" of PR here? Anyone have a slight idea why PR is not maintaining a single frequency into the EU? The Philippino community in Europe is q
114 LurveBus : I know of one PR insider, but he posts in other forums... As for why PR isn't touching Europe anytime soon, it's mainly competition. Try booking a fli
115 Post contains links Leamside : LOL. True, but the press release was for Global Safety Mgmt for the airline and not pilotage of one. BTW, any details as to what really happened to t
116 DEVILFISH : Well, these four could relieve the utilization pressure somewhat if they could take over a few of the domestic routes from the A320s, thus freeing so
117 Post contains images Norcal773 : Talking of that, do they have their long haul aircraft doing short runs all day? The N. America arrivals get to MNL early morning and don't leave til
118 Post contains images CityAirline : Hey all! Lately I've been thinking alot about Clark airport. It's said to be expanded and everything, so I thought we could sum this up a bit, cuz the
119 Post contains images LurveBus : Usually, yes. They send their 744s to CEB, HKG, and NRT when they're not doing transpacs. Likewise the A340s do runs to CEB, TPE, HKG, and BKK. There
120 Post contains links DEVILFISH : I too, would love to see E-170s flying domestically. Regarding turboprops, this report suggests that new Q300s mentioned in the Baguio thread and ATR
121 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Oops, that was supposed to be "above in this" thread. Anyway, found these three nice, old photos to spice up the discussion - the tropical scheme sui
122 Post contains images N751PR : Minor correction, Mike: it's ex-KU. Been hearing about the growing number of in-op PTVs on N754PR but hopefully that IFE will be put to rest w/ the c
123 Post contains images Norcal773 : Thanx for the correction. To be honest, my PTV was the only working one from what I could see. Even the overhead Big screen had some issues after tak
124 Post contains links LurveBus : Looks like PR is acquiring a lot of aircraft this year: http://business.inquirer.net/money/b.../view_article.php?article_id=61169 That's a lot of new
125 KL808 : Is this not part of the large A32X order from last year? Aren't the frames trickling in here and there. Or are these additional frames? Drew
126 LurveBus : The four A320s seem to be part of the order. The extra leased A319s aren't.
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