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"Suspicious" Crash Near Bloomington, Indiana  
User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 619 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3296 times:
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CNN is reporting that a small plane crashed into a house south of Bloomington, Indiana. Both people on board were killed. Officials are calling the crash suspicious. Here's a link to the story:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/05/indiana.crash.ap/index.html

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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9607 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Wow. A man uses a plane for a suicide mission attack his mother in laws house. I have never heard of this before. That man must have had some mental problems to bring his daughter with him.


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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1984 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Wow brings new meaning to the mother in law issue. I hope that this does not become a common issue now that one person has done it, others may think its a good idea and follow suit.


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 2):
Wow brings new meaning to the mother in law issue. I hope that this does not become a common issue now that one person has done it, others may think its a good idea and follow suit.

Quick ban all mother-in-laws.. they are obviously a threat to the safety of the public by inciting terrorist acitvity!!!



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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

and he took his 8 year old with him. sad story.

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1984 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 3):
Quick ban all mother-in-laws..

I am sure you wont have to much trouble trying to do that. All joking aside, RIP to the 8 year old daughter, thats unfortunate that this guy had to bring her along.



Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

Given that he was apparently trying to get back at his ex-wife, it makes sense in a way...not that it makes it right, but more understandable since it was his EX.


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User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2727 times:



Sad story. RIP to those killed.



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 3):
Quick ban all mother-in-laws.. they are obviously a threat to the safety of the public by inciting terrorist acitvity!!!

Some of them are indeed  Wink

But, on a serious note, what a way to "go"  Sad



Lee



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 3):
Quick ban all mother-in-laws.. they are obviously a threat to the safety of the public by inciting terrorist acitvity!!!

LOL.. Great idea.

RIP to the little girl, this is really sad.



If you're going through hell, keep going
User currently offlineAirportSeven From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

This is a terrible, tragic story due to the loss of an innocent life. If an adult has an axe to grind, please leave the kids out of it.

From a GA standpoint, nothing good can come from this. I suspect that the media will play this for all it is worth to them and that the TSA will use this an excuse to speed up the security clampdown on GA pilots.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 10):
If an adult has an axe to grind, please leave the kids out of it.

 yes 

Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 10):
From a GA standpoint, nothing good can come from this

Disgustingly true

Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 10):
I suspect that the media will play this for all it is worth to them and that the TSA will use this an excuse to speed up the security clampdown on GA pilots.

To TSA:
Oh yeah, we have to save 300 million people from that 1 in 6 billion occurence of an in-law crashing in on them  Yeah sure
The terrorists won, we lost; let's just put the jack boots on now and get it over with.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Uggh. This is my worst nightmare when I am flying on a plane. I always think about the pilot going crazy and doing something similar to the terrorist attacks or what has been done in this case. It always gets me worked up when I feel we are not flying towards our destination.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1414 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

This is a very sad story. I just read that on CNN. I can't believe he's crazy enough to do something like that. If you want to kill yourself why not jump off a bridge or put a bullet through your skull in the privacy of your own garage, but taking innocent lives with you, endangering other lives (on the ground, etc) and lastly damaging property that people worked so hard for is disgusting and shocking. Clearly this was revenge toward his ex-wife.

Now on a side note, I do believe GA pilots should be screend better, but at the same time, it would be an expensive process that I'm not sure will yield any valuable results. So in a way I'm contradicting myself. Myabe we need to find a better method...

The "FedEx suicidal pilot" example comes to mind. I'm sure that guy was screened a few times. How long did he fly for FedEx before that incident?

RIP to the little girl... and the guy... he didn't diserve this... what he diserved was some medical help

Regards,

Vio



Superior decisions reduce the need for superior skills.
User currently offlineSmashme33 From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 10):
From a GA standpoint, nothing good can come from this. I suspect that the media will play this for all it is worth to them and that the TSA will use this an excuse to speed up the security clampdown on GA pilots.

GA has suffered enough since 9/11, we don't need any more reasons for higher costs and more bureaucracy. The media can be very ignorant when it comes to reporting GA incidents/accidents (like when they think a stall is an engine shutting off), and they spread the ignorance to the non-av public, who sometimes push for airport closures and other ridiculous things. The media will also try to use fear rooting from 9/11 to stir up some crap that hurts GA. Remember that it wasn't Piper Cherokees that were run into the sides of those towers. It's all a big, sorry chain.

Quoting Vio (Reply 13):
RIP to the little girl... and the guy... he didn't diserve this... what he diserved was some medical help

 checkmark  Right on...counseling might have helped him make better decisions.


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

A selfish person. He wanted to bring mental anguish to his ex-wife. He succeeded, but he hurt many of us and now we get to judge him. Not good for him.


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5506 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

Simply put this is horrid. It is and was a repulsive thing to do to his daughter. That is the only thing that actually matters here. Not the plane, not the man, not GA, not its effect on you. Those are separate issues. A nut job used a plane to kill his daughter and "get" his wife. Children trust their parents and this is the ultimate betrayal of that trust. It sickens me. I have no pity for the man at all. He may not have "deserved" anything before this except excellent psychiatric care but now he deserve everyone's derision.

Tug



I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. -W. Shatner
User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 9):
LOL.. Great idea.

RIP to the little girl, this is really sad.

I just want to clarify for anyone, my heart goes out to the little girl and her mother. The act was disgusting, but I only attempted to introduce humor because, frankly, I've had more than enough of being disugsted by humanity these days. To kill your own child... We can do some many great things as humans yet we insist on killing ourselves and others  Sad



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