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Expressjet At BOS For B6 (picture)  
User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9028 times:

Here's a picture of the aircraft at a B6 gate in BOS. It is A/C 907. Sounds like the first two days of this have been pretty successful. Anyone from B6 have any experience with these flights?

http://i17.tinypic.com/2e1a8fq.jpg

[Edited 2007-03-10 00:08:45]

[Edited 2007-03-10 00:10:47]

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User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9020 times:

Yes....inquiring minds would like to know.  Smile

So, it was the Aquafresh Jets that were used. That's expected.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9004 times:

Quoting XJET (Thread starter):
Here's a picture of the aircraft at a B6 gate in JFK.

Are you sure that's at JFK. Judging from the landscape and the AA jet in the background, I'd guess it's on the south end of the hammerhead of the B6 pier of Terminal C at BOS (gate C33, probably).


User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8984 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 2):
Are you sure that's at JFK. Judging from the landscape and the AA jet in the background, I'd guess it's on the south end of the hammerhead of the B6 pier of Terminal C at BOS (gate C33, probably).

Yeah, you are actually right. Sorry about that. I meant BOS, but typed JFK.  embarrassed 


User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8986 times:

I'll get to ride on 1 tomorrow, hopefully, on my commute into BOS for work. I'll see what the crews onboard are saying and how the customers are adjusting to the temporary change in guage.


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User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8760 times:

awwwww, i was hoping it might have some neato hybrid livery.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8744 times:

Saw one yesterday when I landed in BOS. Wasn't impressed by the livery at all - didn't look too great in my mind.

User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8688 times:

We had two (I think that was how many) B6 E190's arrive at BNA yesterday for their work so this pic just confirms the work has commenced.


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User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8472 times:

Is expressjet or B6 handling ground operations for these aircraft?

User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8463 times:
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Quoting Flypdx (Reply 8):
Is expressjet or B6 handling ground operations for these aircraft?

Would XE have handling of their own at BOS?

JBLU


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8355 times:
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no, there are no Expressjet employees in BOS.............all work is done by CO


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User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8348 times:

B6 is doing all the ground handling for the flights, catering etc. Funny thing, flights owned by CAL being leased to an operator(expressJet) that is doing flying for a carrier competes heavily with CAL.

User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 11):
Funny thing, flights owned by CAL being leased to an operator(expressJet) that is doing flying for a carrier competes heavily with CAL.

It is funny, but thems the breaks. Too bad CO wanted to diversify so bad. I kinda liked having one happy family with 274 planes in one color. But when life gives you whipped cream pies, you throw them in Kellner's face. I am glad XE was able to pull this off with only one weeks notice. I think it speaks well to the caliber of dedication here as well as B6.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26811 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8136 times:

Quoting XJET (Reply 12):
It is funny, but thems the breaks. Too bad CO wanted to diversify so bad. I kinda liked having one happy family with 274 planes in one color.

Except, of course, that CO was getting one of the worst regional screwjobs in a world of regional screwjobs based on their deal with ExpressJet.



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User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8093 times:

Saw a few of these birds at the B6 gates today at IAD.


I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineWyorca From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8064 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 14):
Except, of course, that CO was getting one of the worst regional screwjobs in a world of regional screwjobs based on their deal with ExpressJet.

What do you mean by screwjob? The CPA was set up by CAL when it decided to sell off Express and make it public. Express and all it entailed was created by CAL. So if the original CPA was a screwjob, then it was CAL who was screwing CAL. And tell me how it was a screwjob? CAL had (and still does) one of the industry leading regional working for them, that has DOT performance figures that oftentimes beat CAL and most major airlines, and that has a good reputation for treating its people well and has even made Forbes most admired airlines.

Doesn't sound like a screwjob to me. If you want BMW performance, you have to pay BMW prices.

Oh did you guys hear, Kellner is writing a sequel to Gordon's book. It's called "And Back Again"!

[Edited 2007-03-10 07:17:01]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26811 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8041 times:

Make sure you quote the right person.

Quoting Wyorca (Reply 15):
Doesn't sound like a screwjob to me. If you want BMW performance, you have to pay BMW prices.

Except that they are flying aircraft that guzzle gas on a per seat basis like a 454 Chevy.

Quoting Wyorca (Reply 15):
So if the original CPA was a screwjob, then it was CAL who was screwing CAL.

I agree with that. All the legacies have shot themselves in the foot with the glut of capacity shifted toward regional carriers flying inefficient aircraft outside their design mission. The regional system is great when it comes to commuter turboprop flights where the fuel costs are so low that it makes sense for a legacy not to add a new type. The 37-50 seat jet is just a ridiculous thing.

Quoting Wyorca (Reply 15):
has even made Forbes most admired airlines.

Well, duh, they make money.



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User currently offlineWyorca From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7987 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Except that they are flying aircraft that guzzle gas on a per seat basis like a 454 Chevy.

Well, in that case ALL the RJ operators do, the BIG DIFFERENCE is that XE does it on time and with fewer problems than any other regional and most majors (according to DOT statistics).

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Well, duh, they make money.

Almost all regionals make money, yet they seldom are selected among the Most Admired.


User currently offlineADiZzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Ok.....so i am alittle out of the loop right now, but what is going on with B6 and expressjet?

User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7258 times:

Quoting ADiZzy (Reply 18):
Ok.....so i am alittle out of the loop right now, but what is going on with B6 and expressjet?

B6 is having software upgrades to their E190's done ASAP (They are experieincing too many software issues), in order not to disrupt their ops while the 190's are down at BNA getting fixed on a rotating basis, they are hiring out certain E190 routes to be operated by ExpressJet.


User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Except, of course, that CO was getting one of the worst regional screwjobs in a world of regional screwjobs based on their deal with ExpressJet.

Think that if you want, but you are wrong. XE has an industry leading product. We were able to set up a B6 operation in a weeks time. CHQ has been in IAH for 3 months, and they are still canceling flights left and right. And don't tell me it is just the CRJs. It is the ERJs too, which they are very experienced in operating.

XE met RJETs offer to CO. CO wanted to diversify!! It wasn't a money issue. They are losing millions of dollars on CHQ in IAH. Smisek hates XE, always has. This was his ball for the most part.

I have tried to explain this to people over and over again, but everybody thinks its easier to say that XE is too expensive. The fact is, this is dead wrong.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Except that they are flying aircraft that guzzle gas on a per seat basis like a 454 Chevy.

Yeah, the CASM sucks on a 50 seat jet. Who doesn't know that? But did you know that XE has the lowest fuel usage in the industry? We don't have to do this. CO buys most of our fuel anyway. But we have made many many efforts to make their lives easier. We have implemented company wide MANDATORY fuel savings measures. We always use ground power and ground air to minimize APU usage. Usually we only start it 5 minutes prior to push back. We only taxi with one engine. We have implemented a program to use steeper descents to allow us to fly at higher cost effective altitudes longer. XE spent millions of its own dollars on a unique proprietary weight and balance program. It allows us to use an average weight that is about 11 lbs. less than what other regionals use. Bags weigh less as well. This allows us to minimize weight restrictions, thereby helping the CASM on a full flight. We are currently implementing increased weights on all of our LR models that will allow 1300 more pounds of payload. It doesn't sound like a lot, but for an RJ it is.

I could go on and on and on. I don't fault you for your opinions, you just sound uninformed.


User currently offlineRICguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6981 times:

The ExpressJet flights have began in RIC. The two flights arrive and depart about 25 minutes apart from each other. Are they going to be using jetways or boarding from stairs? The picture in BOS appears they may board from stairs.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6781 times:

Quoting XJET (Reply 12):
I kinda liked having one happy family with 274 planes in one color.

I totally agree.....was at IAH yesterday, saw a CHQ E145 with blue on the tail minus the gold globe and blue engine nacelles, looked like an after thought for sure, not the classy all planes in the same livery....then if that wasn't bad enough, a CHQ CRJ parked on the northwest ramp of Terminal C, blue tail, no globe nor was there a name on the fuselage, yet another bad example of continuity. The guy sitting next to me asked as we parked next to it waiting for our gate, "who is that"?  covereyes 

Quoting XJET (Reply 20):
CHQ has been in IAH for 3 months, and they are still canceling flights left and right. And don't tell me it is just the CRJs. It is the ERJs too, which they are very experienced in operating.

That is unacceptable, someone in CO management is going to one day soon start asking questions of their decisions with ExpressJet.

I hope B6 folks enjoy ExpressJet the way I have.



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User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6171 times:

Quoting XJET (Reply 20):
CHQ has been in IAH for 3 months, and they are still canceling flights left and right.

I have a teacher that is a captain for ExpressJet and has told us stories that very few flights have left on time with 50 abord at IAH over at CHQ. Clearly not the same product XE is.


User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6106 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 22):
no globe nor was there a name on the fuselage

Have you seen the one in United Express colors, without the words "United Express" on it. Then it has a yellow radome cover. Classy.


25 Delta787 : I like ExpressJet but I feel Continental's management made the right choice when it decided to diversify its regional operations. In the past, if any
26 XJET : Shades of Comair 1999??
27 Loggat : I just finished flying a 4 day in and out of IAH. We had to cancel an IAH-ATL-IAH trip because Chelsea catering drove a catering truck into the side o
28 XJET : I will give you this. That operation has always lacked luster. And please don't think that my earlier comments are in anyway directed against the pil
29 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Does anyone know exactly what flights the ExpressJet planes are operating out of BOS. I know cities but are they on certain routes? B6jfk
30 N1120A : You had the extra planes. Hey, I am not saying that Chautauqua is any better. My issue is with the entire regional jet industry. CO's fuel deal with
31 Wmupilot : BOS-BUF 1211 BUF-BOS 1212 BOS-IAD 1255 IAD-BOS 1256 BOS-IAD 1259 IAD-BOS 1260 JFK-RIC 1073 RIC-JFK 1072 JFK-RIC 1075 RIC-JFK 1075 JFK-CMH 1097 CMH-JF
32 Post contains images IAHFLYR : I've flown from B84 numerous times on Express.....most of the time they flights as I remember were not late.....having said that, I wonder if anyone
33 Lincoln : That certainly explains why my last few ExpressJet flights have felt like we were climbling like a --- on departure and divebombing the airport on ar
34 B6sFinest : Our operation has been running a whole lot smoother with the ERJ 145's than the E-180. I think we should get our money back and buy a bunch of those..
35 RedTailDTW : Same Here, Ive almost never had a delay out of B84... Mason
36 Post contains images NWA757boy : Well there are around 69 ERJ145s that could use a new home. Actually I think all 69 might be earmarked for some flying, being DL Connection, Branded
37 Positiverate : Are B6 pax being compensated for not flying on the B6 product?
38 NWA757boy : Yeah, a $25 voucher
39 Altairf28 : Are most of these flights overbooked as a result of the aircraft switch or are the LF's on these specific flights normally bad enough that an ERJ145 c
40 NWA757boy : they are sending two 145s for each 190 flight, they depart about 25-30min from each other.
41 XJET : The flights leave "late" more often than others. It has gotten better since CO has gotten another vendor for the ramp shuttle buses. XE flights may "
42 Post contains images Altairf28 : Gotcha, thanks. That makes perfect sense, which is why I didn't expect them to think of it
43 Wideglider : E-180? We fly E190s. We operate "wingtip" flights or as I call them, shadow flights, on days when loads are higher to accomodate the extra seats.
44 Lincoln : I beleive this is an intentional reference to the dispatch reliability -- i.e. the aircraft does a 180 back to the gate -- rather than a mistake. Lin
45 JetBluefan1 : Are only those who booked their flights before this whole agreement occurred given vouchers, or are ALL passengers on the flights given them? It woul
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