Guilledc10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
Why is AM recently painting their fleet in the "new" colors (white, red ,and blue)? It seems that the old chrome livery was good enough being that it probably weighed less and looked really sharp in my opinion. Any other reasons for the new paint job other than a new look?
Flyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 978 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1879 times:
I liked the old one more.......
The new one is "just another white plane"
The old one was unique.
"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsly believe they are free" -Goethe
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 28 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
I believe I heard it was because they will have 787s. The 787 must be painted because of the composite fuselage. Same reason people believe the 787 will bring a new livery for American Airlines after all these years.
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I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example
Persoanlly I prefer the old livery, but the new one does look quiet modern, and it still reminds me of the US livery, which I like quite a lot.
It was getting quite old too, abotu time a change was made, although I agree, the aeromexico.com bits aren't so nice
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 28 Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 5): I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example
Oh I know. I don't believe the nonsense that AA must change their livery simply because they will have 787s. Just using that as a point to illustrate that others believe it to be a factor.
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Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1738 times:
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1647 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 5): I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example
I don't think that's a good example. The A300 is made of metal and the composite parts were still painted. They didn't figure out how to "polish" the composites.
Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2629 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1578 times:
It has to do more with the privatization of the airline. Management has been given orders from the government that it will be privatized as soon as possible and the livery is part of the strategy they are using to make it look more attractive.
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1418 times:
Quoting Sammyk (Reply 8): don't think that's a good example. The A300 is made of metal and the composite parts were still painted. They didn't figure out how to "polish" the composites.
The A300s were once painted though, right? I thought that's what he was refering to. I don't see why AA can't just modify their livery for the 787 instead of changing the whole fleet simply because the 787 must be painted.
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Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 10): The A300s were once painted though, right? I thought that's what he was refering to. I don't see why AA can't just modify their livery for the 787 instead of changing the whole fleet simply because the 787 must be painted.
Yes they were but since they were still metal I think it was easier to find a solution. I mean what are they gonna do, electroplate the plane?
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 28 Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1179 times:
Quoting Sammyk (Reply 11): Yes they were but since they were still metal I think it was easier to find a solution. I mean what are they gonna do, electroplate the plane?
I just don't find it unreasonable to think that AA will simply keep the current scheme through acquisition of the 787 except us a grey or silver paint where it should be bare metal...instead of completely changing their livery fleet-wide.
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Mah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1161 times:
Quoting Flyorski (Reply 2): The new one is "just another white plane"
Definitely true. From a marketing perspective, a white or lightly colored plane appeals more to customers than a darker colored plane.
Adriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1112 posts, RR: 21 Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1117 times:
The rationale behind it is simple: it was considered necessary to give AM a "fresher" look vis-a-vis its stock offering to the public. Plus, maintenance of the "white plane" will be what some some internal sources have put at "considerably" cheaper than keepeing the bare metal adequately polished... in other words, the bare metal polish is high-maintenance, versus the white coat.
Whether I agree with those stances or not, that is a whole different story. I like the bare metal better, and I believe spending money in changing the livery just before selling the company to the public, is plain nonsense. I'd rather leave the branding as is, so the new owner can decide if and waht to do with it.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
I like it for the most part...
except for the red stripe, it looks like an afterthought....as if they were deliberately trying to fill some space, when they should have just made the "AEROMEXICO" titles larger.
Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2629 posts, RR: 15 Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1059 times:
Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 16): Whether I agree with those stances or not, that is a whole different story. I like the bare metal better, and I believe spending money in changing the livery just before selling the company to the public, is plain nonsense. I'd rather leave the branding as is, so the new owner can decide if and waht to do with it.
If I'm not mistaken, this was also the case with Mexicana. The new dark-blue livery was adopted in order to reduce cost, as the older green pattern motif was considered expensive to maintain. They even eliminated the tradition of naming each aircraft and all other extra non necessary items from the aircraft, including the small 1940's Mexicana logo that addorned all aircraft, just like the one right below the Airbus A320 stickers.
NAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 976 times:
I prefered the previous American Airline colors and am not very fond of the new Lan Chile colors.
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 921 times:
Well, come on now. Yes, the old livery was better, but the new colors are not bad. I like the new livery.
Aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2410 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 812 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 20): Well, come on now. Yes, the old livery was better, but the new colors are not bad. I like the new livery.
Yes they are. The new colours are shockingly bad. In comparison to the former, they represent one of the most bland liveries (and thus, worst livery changes) ever. Everything about the new livery screams cheap, quick and half-arsed.
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3808 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 789 times:
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 13): I just don't find it unreasonable to think that AA will simply keep the current scheme through acquisition of the 787 except us a grey or silver paint where it should be bare metal...instead of completely changing their livery fleet-wide.
If I remamber correctly teh BAC-111 fleet had a similar problem with the overwing section. But AA and BAC, came up with some sort of film which gave the appearence of a metal polish. In time, as the metal became oxidised(and also scuffed) the film remained shiny! Perhpas Boeing could come up with a similar soultion for the 787, afterall there will be no lap joints to inspect, so the process should be that much easier.
Surely AA will not paint the 787 in that awful flat grey the A300s had? If boeing can make an airliner so advanced as the 787, Im sure it can come up with a way to produce a polished Au finish. Mica/Pearlecent paint is NOT a solution IMHO.
BTW, MX should be taken out a shot for painting their 737/777s. Now if they had done something interesting.....but eurowhite?????
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