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User currently offlineGuilledc10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Why is AM recently painting their fleet in the "new" colors (white, red ,and blue)? It seems that the old chrome livery was good enough being that it probably weighed less and looked really sharp in my opinion. Any other reasons for the new paint job other than a new look?

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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Well the bare metal was nice , but the new one is far better ...

Konstantin


User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

I liked the old one more.......

The new one is "just another white plane"

The old one was unique.



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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

The old one was great, I loved it and was probably cheaper but the new one isn't that bad apart from the aeromexico.com on the engine.

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4779 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2416 times:
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I believe I heard it was because they will have 787s. The 787 must be painted because of the composite fuselage. Same reason people believe the 787 will bring a new livery for American Airlines after all these years.


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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 4):

I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example

Persoanlly I prefer the old livery, but the new one does look quiet modern, and it still reminds me of the US livery, which I like quite a lot.

It was getting quite old too, abotu time a change was made, although I agree, the aeromexico.com bits aren't so nice


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4779 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
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Quoting BA787 (Reply 5):
I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example

Oh I know. I don't believe the nonsense that AA must change their livery simply because they will have 787s. Just using that as a point to illustrate that others believe it to be a factor.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 2):
I liked the old one more.......

The new one is "just another white plane"

The old one was unique.

Agree 100%...

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 4):
I believe I heard it was because they will have 787s. The 787 must be painted because of the composite fuselage.

That's the rumor going around..


User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2209 times:
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Quoting BA787 (Reply 5):
I think this was part of the reason, but if it had been the whole reason, there are many better ways to get around this, look at whatt AA did with the A300 for example

I don't think that's a good example. The A300 is made of metal and the composite parts were still painted. They didn't figure out how to "polish" the composites.


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

It has to do more with the privatization of the airline. Management has been given orders from the government that it will be privatized as soon as possible and the livery is part of the strategy they are using to make it look more attractive.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4779 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1980 times:
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Quoting Sammyk (Reply 8):
don't think that's a good example. The A300 is made of metal and the composite parts were still painted. They didn't figure out how to "polish" the composites.

The A300s were once painted though, right? I thought that's what he was refering to. I don't see why AA can't just modify their livery for the 787 instead of changing the whole fleet simply because the 787 must be painted.



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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 10):
The A300s were once painted though, right? I thought that's what he was refering to. I don't see why AA can't just modify their livery for the 787 instead of changing the whole fleet simply because the 787 must be painted.

Yes they were but since they were still metal I think it was easier to find a solution. I mean what are they gonna do, electroplate the plane?  Wink


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

The new colors are not better than the old bare metal, they are simply a bad "inspiration" of LAN colors!


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4779 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
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Quoting Sammyk (Reply 11):
Yes they were but since they were still metal I think it was easier to find a solution. I mean what are they gonna do, electroplate the plane?

I just don't find it unreasonable to think that AA will simply keep the current scheme through acquisition of the 787 except us a grey or silver paint where it should be bare metal...instead of completely changing their livery fleet-wide.



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User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 509 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 2):
The new one is "just another white plane"

Definitely true. From a marketing perspective, a white or lightly colored plane appeals more to customers than a darker colored plane.


User currently offlineAeroMexico777 From Mexico, joined Oct 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 12):
The new colors are not better than the old bare metal, they are simply a bad "inspiration" of LAN colors!

Sorry to say this, but agree 100%... I just loved AM bare metal colours... Will MISS them...

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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

The rationale behind it is simple: it was considered necessary to give AM a "fresher" look vis-a-vis its stock offering to the public. Plus, maintenance of the "white plane" will be what some some internal sources have put at "considerably" cheaper than keepeing the bare metal adequately polished... in other words, the bare metal polish is high-maintenance, versus the white coat.

Whether I agree with those stances or not, that is a whole different story. I like the bare metal better, and I believe spending money in changing the livery just before selling the company to the public, is plain nonsense. I'd rather leave the branding as is, so the new owner can decide if and waht to do with it.

But that's me.

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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

I like it for the most part...
except for the red stripe, it looks like an afterthought....as if they were deliberately trying to fill some space, when they should have just made the "AEROMEXICO" titles larger.



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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 16):
Whether I agree with those stances or not, that is a whole different story. I like the bare metal better, and I believe spending money in changing the livery just before selling the company to the public, is plain nonsense. I'd rather leave the branding as is, so the new owner can decide if and waht to do with it.

If I'm not mistaken, this was also the case with Mexicana. The new dark-blue livery was adopted in order to reduce cost, as the older green pattern motif was considered expensive to maintain. They even eliminated the tradition of naming each aircraft and all other extra non necessary items from the aircraft, including the small 1940's Mexicana logo that addorned all aircraft, just like the one right below the Airbus A320 stickers.



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User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

I prefered the previous American Airline colors and am not very fond of the new Lan Chile colors.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Well, come on now. Yes, the old livery was better, but the new colors are not bad. I like the new livery.

User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2687 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 20):
Well, come on now. Yes, the old livery was better, but the new colors are not bad. I like the new livery.

Yes they are. The new colours are shockingly bad. In comparison to the former, they represent one of the most bland liveries (and thus, worst livery changes) ever. Everything about the new livery screams cheap, quick and half-arsed.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 13):
I just don't find it unreasonable to think that AA will simply keep the current scheme through acquisition of the 787 except us a grey or silver paint where it should be bare metal...instead of completely changing their livery fleet-wide.

If I remamber correctly teh BAC-111 fleet had a similar problem with the overwing section. But AA and BAC, came up with some sort of film which gave the appearence of a metal polish. In time, as the metal became oxidised(and also scuffed) the film remained shiny! Perhpas Boeing could come up with a similar soultion for the 787, afterall there will be no lap joints to inspect, so the process should be that much easier.

Surely AA will not paint the 787 in that awful flat grey the A300s had? If boeing can make an airliner so advanced as the 787, Im sure it can come up with a way to produce a polished Au finish. Mica/Pearlecent paint is NOT a solution IMHO.

BTW, MX should be taken out a shot for painting their 737/777s. Now if they had done something interesting.....but eurowhite?????  Sad



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