KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12134 posts, RR: 51 Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1880 times:
The MD-80 series was built up until 2001. There are a lot of them out there, including late model airplanes. Would they be a candidate for conversion to freighters to replace the now retiring B-727-200F/CFs?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
No the fuselage is too sleek, it can't fit certain containers which can be fitted into the typical 6 abreast aircraft like DC-8, 707/727/737/757 and A-320.
There were also few cargo DC-9s for the same reason. ABX has them but they transport packages so it doesn't seem to be a problem for them.
As old 757s and to a lesser extent 737s and A-320s will be picked up and converted to freighters, the MD-80 will fill up the void and move on to smaller passenger carriers in developing countries.
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Srbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1753 times:
Unless someone was to make cans that would fit on the main deck, I doubt you'll see too many cargo MD-80 family a/c. While you would think that ABX would be an ideal candidate for them because they have used the DC-9 (and even the Caravelle back in the early days), that may not be the case. In some cases, some cities have seen the DC-9s replaced with some 767s (ATL is one such city where in the past it was a mix of DC-9s and DC-8s. Now it's a mix of DC-8s and 767s). While the method they use to load the main deck on the DC-9s is unique, it may be a little bit too time consuming in the case of the MD-80 family. While I'm sure a cargo door could be retrofitted (There are DC-9s that have a forward cargo door, some were even ordered as combis), would such a modification be worth the money to pursue? More than likely, as stated in Reply 1, the replacement for the DC-9 freighters (as well as 727Fs) are the 757, 737, and A320 family of a/c. Several airlines have replaced (or in the process of replacing) their older narrowbodied freighters with the 757 or the 737. While there will be plenty of MD-80 family a/c coming onto the market in the next 5-10 years or so (As DL and AA will be in the process of beginning to retire their MD-80 family fleets by this point), some will end up in places like Africa, South America, and Central America, places where many second hand a/c end up at. Most will probably end up having a one-way trip to VCV, ROW, OPF, IGM, or some other boneyard.
BigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1551 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4): Also doesn't the Center of Gravity have something to do with this?
It's still possible if the carrier is smart enough to employ a tail stand, and step loading procedures.
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 1): No the fuselage is too sleek, it can't fit certain containers which can be fitted into the typical 6 abreast aircraft like DC-8, 707/727/737/757 and A-320.
However I gotta agree with this. FedEx, and UPS use certain containers that fit in the 6 abreast wide aircraft or larger.
DHL/ABX could be different. They have containers that they load through the main door. (Not a cargo door) It is more time consuming, but I've seen no changes. Unless the new 76's they ordered are gonna have a main deck cargo door.
I think the MD-80's are going to have a more successful next life in developing nations, replacing 732's at discount prices!