NWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7702 times:
Flight took off from Itami Airport in Osaka and was due to land at Kochi before 9am Japan time. They are now over 90 minutes late, but they are planning on landing at 10:50am even though the front gear has not come down. News is showing how they tried to break the gear loose by bouncing the plane off the runway, but to no avail. According to the news there are 56 passengers and 4 crew members. Not sure what type of plane, but it is a commuter plane, turbo prop. Watching the news now will keep everyone up to date.
NWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7616 times:
MDorBust,
I think you are right about the plane.
It just landed and there were no problems. They were able to get it stopped on the runway and are currently spraying the fuselage with water, but it looked like a really smooth landing considering the situation.
YHMYYZspotter From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 197 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6660 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10): No doubt the pilots did a good job, but let's not overdramatize. This was hardly the most dire of emergencies.
I bet it was if you were a passenger on the plane. I know I would be just a tad nervous. I hardly think people are overdramatizing. I agree great landing!
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 13582 posts, RR: 68 Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6516 times:
Quoting YHMYYZspotter (Reply 12): I bet it was if you were a passenger on the plane. I know I would be just a tad nervous. I hardly think people are overdramatizing. I agree great landing!
Whether I would have been nervous or not does not have any bearing on the skill of the pilots or the magnitude of the emergency. I sometimes get nervous when an aircraft flies through wake turbulence on approach. This hardly means the aircraft is about to plummet to the ground.
As I said before: Yes, this was an emergency and potentially there could have been loss of life. However, the pilots train for this situation and unless they screw up by the numbers landing with retracted nose gear isn't a huge problem.
And yes, I would probably have been scared. But my being scared doesn't make the situation any more or less dangerous.
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Last year the Japanese Land and Infrastructure Ministry sent a warning to Bombardier concerning the Q400s. Though NH was doing a great job at maintainance, there were concerns about the plane's forward landing gear. This is not the first time that there have been problems.
On the news tonight they were saying that this is actually something like the 4th time that a pilot has had problems with the forward landing gear. On all the previous times he pulled the emergency release to lower the gear and it worked. But this time it didn't work.
Quote: In February 2006, another Bombardier plane operated by ANA experienced landing gear problems. That pilot aborted an initial landing attempt after all three sets of wheels failed to deploy. The landing gear was later deployed manually, and none of the 25 passengers and crew was injured.
Later that month, two ANA-operated Bombardier airliners made emergency landings at Osaka airport shortly after taking off. One had problems with its heating system, while a warning lamp in the other signalled something was wrong with one of its doors. No one was injured.
In 2004, the right wheel of a Bombardier broke off while landing at Kochi airport, also with no injuries.
ZschocheImages From United States, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5010 times:
This happened on a Mesaba Q100 I was on about 12 or 13 years ago only it was one of the side gear. The pilot made 7 or 8 landing attempts at Houghton, MI before it finally came down. Next option was to do a wheels up landing at KI Sawyer AFB.
Jerald01 From United States, joined Oct 2006, 161 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4815 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10): No doubt the pilots did a good job, but let's not overdramatize. This was hardly the most dire of emergencies.
It was the most dire of emergencies THAT crew and THOSE passengers were experiencing AT THAT TIME ! Any time the rollers don't come down and lock in place as advertised is a scary situation. We can sit back and "ho-hum" it all we want but you can bet the PPM * was pegged on the high side for the final landing...
* PPM = Pilot Pucker Meter
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Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 13582 posts, RR: 68 Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3189 times:
Quoting Jerald01 (Reply 17): It was the most dire of emergencies THAT crew and THOSE passengers were experiencing AT THAT TIME ! Any time the rollers don't come down and lock in place as advertised is a scary situation. We can sit back and "ho-hum" it all we want but you can bet the PPM * was pegged on the high side for the final landing...
I never said ho-hum. I said it was not the most dire of emergencies. I have no doubt the pilots had a nice high pulse. But it was hardly like they were very likely to die or anything. They didn't have two engines on fire over the ocean.
Of course it was the most dire they were experiencing at that time. But that's like saying when someone cuts me off on I-95 (an almost daily occurrence) that it is the most dire emergency at that time. Sure it is, but I still get to work in one piece every day.
[Edited 2007-03-13 21:26:33]
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