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ANA Q400 Declared Emergency Landing  
User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10049 times:

Just on the news, i saw on CNBC World that an ANA plane has problems with its landing gear and its trying to land at Kochi Airport.

No details yet on type or anything at all.

JAAH


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User currently offlineNWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9998 times:

Flight took off from Itami Airport in Osaka and was due to land at Kochi before 9am Japan time. They are now over 90 minutes late, but they are planning on landing at 10:50am even though the front gear has not come down. News is showing how they tried to break the gear loose by bouncing the plane off the runway, but to no avail. According to the news there are 56 passengers and 4 crew members. Not sure what type of plane, but it is a commuter plane, turbo prop. Watching the news now will keep everyone up to date.

Here's hoping they can land and stop safely.

NWAatNGO


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9967 times:

Sounds like it might be one of the DHC-8-402s

User currently offlineNWAatNGO From Japan, joined May 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9912 times:

MDorBust,

I think you are right about the plane.

It just landed and there were no problems. They were able to get it stopped on the runway and are currently spraying the fuselage with water, but it looked like a really smooth landing considering the situation.

Good work guys!!!

NWAatNGO


User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9836 times:

Quoting NWAatNGO (Reply 3):
Good work guys!!!

Thanks for the info, and thanks God everythiing weht OK for everyone onboard.

JAAH



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User currently offlineSmolt From Japan, joined Nov 1999, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9795 times:

From NHK news;

http://up.mugitya.com/img/Lv.1_up4464.jpg

now passengers are getting off.


User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9297 times:

Video:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...id_6444500/6444575.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4211 posts, RR: 89
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9284 times:
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Here are some further links to an article from Flight International

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...nose-gear-up-landing-at-kochi.html

That has a couple of shots of the landing and states that the cause of the nosewheel failure is not yet known.

The following is a link to a BBC article which has a video of the landing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6444819.stm

ANA, Japan's second largest carrier, has grounded its entire fleet of Bombardier planes pending an inquiry.

Swift action from ANA until the results of the incident are known.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9284 times:




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User currently offlineHoppe777 From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9216 times:

Wow ! great landing guys and to think that it was so smooth as if nothing happened at all.

They should be proud of themselves......

Hoppe777



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17110 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9178 times:

No doubt the pilots did a good job, but let's not overdramatize. This was hardly the most dire of emergencies.


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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9119 times:

Will this affect the good safety record of ANA ??

User currently offlineYHMYYZspotter From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8956 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10):
No doubt the pilots did a good job, but let's not overdramatize. This was hardly the most dire of emergencies.

I bet it was if you were a passenger on the plane. I know I would be just a tad nervous. I hardly think people are overdramatizing. I agree great landing!


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17110 posts, RR: 66
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8812 times:

Quoting YHMYYZspotter (Reply 12):
I bet it was if you were a passenger on the plane. I know I would be just a tad nervous. I hardly think people are overdramatizing. I agree great landing!

Whether I would have been nervous or not does not have any bearing on the skill of the pilots or the magnitude of the emergency. I sometimes get nervous when an aircraft flies through wake turbulence on approach. This hardly means the aircraft is about to plummet to the ground.

As I said before: Yes, this was an emergency and potentially there could have been loss of life. However, the pilots train for this situation and unless they screw up by the numbers landing with retracted nose gear isn't a huge problem.

And yes, I would probably have been scared. But my being scared doesn't make the situation any more or less dangerous.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8220 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8786 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 11):
Will this affect the good safety record of ANA ??

Why would it? This is, for all intents and purposes, an incident and nothing more.

At any rate, the media here is making much of past troubles ANA Connection has had with the DHC-8-400s. Let the idiotic sensationalism begin  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8760 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 11):
Will this affect the good safety record of ANA ??

Actually not really.

Last year the Japanese Land and Infrastructure Ministry sent a warning to Bombardier concerning the Q400s. Though NH was doing a great job at maintainance, there were concerns about the plane's forward landing gear. This is not the first time that there have been problems.

On the news tonight they were saying that this is actually something like the 4th time that a pilot has had problems with the forward landing gear. On all the previous times he pulled the emergency release to lower the gear and it worked. But this time it didn't work.

Quote:
In February 2006, another Bombardier plane operated by ANA experienced landing gear problems. That pilot aborted an initial landing attempt after all three sets of wheels failed to deploy. The landing gear was later deployed manually, and none of the 25 passengers and crew was injured.

Later that month, two ANA-operated Bombardier airliners made emergency landings at Osaka airport shortly after taking off. One had problems with its heating system, while a warning lamp in the other signalled something was wrong with one of its doors. No one was injured.

In 2004, the right wheel of a Bombardier broke off while landing at Kochi airport, also with no injuries.

The Toronto Star

[Edited 2007-03-13 14:58:34]


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User currently offlineZschocheImages From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7306 times:

This happened on a Mesaba Q100 I was on about 12 or 13 years ago only it was one of the side gear. The pilot made 7 or 8 landing attempts at Houghton, MI before it finally came down. Next option was to do a wheels up landing at KI Sawyer AFB.


Why fly with 2 engines when you can have 3?
User currently offlineJerald01 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 161 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7111 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10):
No doubt the pilots did a good job, but let's not overdramatize. This was hardly the most dire of emergencies.

 duck 

It was the most dire of emergencies THAT crew and THOSE passengers were experiencing AT THAT TIME ! Any time the rollers don't come down and lock in place as advertised is a scary situation. We can sit back and "ho-hum" it all we want but you can bet the PPM * was pegged on the high side for the final landing...


* PPM = Pilot Pucker Meter



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17110 posts, RR: 66
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5485 times:

Quoting Jerald01 (Reply 17):
It was the most dire of emergencies THAT crew and THOSE passengers were experiencing AT THAT TIME ! Any time the rollers don't come down and lock in place as advertised is a scary situation. We can sit back and "ho-hum" it all we want but you can bet the PPM * was pegged on the high side for the final landing...

I never said ho-hum. I said it was not the most dire of emergencies. I have no doubt the pilots had a nice high pulse. But it was hardly like they were very likely to die or anything. They didn't have two engines on fire over the ocean.

Of course it was the most dire they were experiencing at that time. But that's like saying when someone cuts me off on I-95 (an almost daily occurrence) that it is the most dire emergency at that time. Sure it is, but I still get to work in one piece every day.

[Edited 2007-03-13 21:26:33]


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