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SIA/US Airways Launch Codeshare Flight  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070314/law054a.html?.v=1

Codeshare deal between Singapore Airlines and US Airways has announced, covering:

Los Angeles - Phoenix
Los Angeles - Las Vegas
San Francisco - Las Vegas
San Francisco - Phoenix
New York JFK - Charlotte

Los Angeles - Singapore nonstop

[Edited 2007-03-15 00:11:52]

[Edited 2007-03-15 00:13:16]

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User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

I think thats good to hear. Though I'm surprised they'd leave PHL off that list.


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User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 994 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

LAX-SIN non stop on US Airways. Hmmm. Too bad Delta didn't get bought out after all. Well, when it comes to service, we in Atlanta can still dream. Ain't gonna happen, but we can still dream.


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User currently offlinePanPan From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

SIA has such great service. It's going to be a huge letdown for their passengers getting on an airline as downmarket as US. US, home of the advertising on the tray tables in first. You gotta wonder what SIA is thinking.

User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

Now all we need is some codeshares with TG!

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9706 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

Quoting PanPan (Reply 3):
SIA has such great service. It's going to be a huge letdown for their passengers getting on an airline as downmarket as US

Well SIA chose US instead of UA on 4 of those 5 routes. UA operates SFO/LAX to LAS/PHX. However United doesn't have first class. They operate either United Express or Ted on those routes. Therefore, US actually provides a superior service, and therefore is better at connecting SQ passengers to their premium long haul flights.



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User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5126 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4807 times:

I wonder what the slogan would be ... fly SIA to US Air ... a complete service ... from HVN to HEL ...

-A.



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User currently offlineRafflesKing From Singapore, joined Mar 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

SIN-PHL A345 daily !!!  cloudnine 

User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4783 times:

Oh there is more too it as well if you read the SQ press release (excerpt follows):


From the Singapore hub, US Airways’ customers can also easily connect onto
codeshare flights operated by Singapore Airlines to popular destinations in the
Asia Pacific (Perth, Ho Chi Minh City, Bali, Jakarta and Banda Seri Begawan).
US Airways will also codeshare on Singapore Airlines services to European
gateways of Amsterdam, Zurich and Manchester.
-Singapore Airlines

 banghead 

So, you can now circle the world on US Airways coded flights in theory (example: PHL>MAN>SIN>LAX>PHL)

Quoting PanPan (Reply 3):
SIA has such great service. It's going to be a huge letdown for their passengers getting on an airline as downmarket as US. US, home of the advertising on the tray tables in first. You gotta wonder what SIA is thinking.

I agree, what on EARTH is SQ thinking by getting in to bed with US Airways?! 5 star airline to a 3 star airline, best service to worst service...the star of star alliance (in my opinion) to the shame.

And how many americans can find Bandar Seri Begawan on the map????  Wink



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3138 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
And how many americans can find Bandar Seri Begawan on the map????

The ones seeking to take ideas from the Sultan's Palace to build their own?? :P

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
(Perth, Ho Chi Minh City, Bali, Jakarta and Banda Seri Begawan).

Woohoo!!! So that means if you want to go STAR all the way you can either do the codeshare DJ flight to United in Sydney or you can go on SQ from Perth to Singapore and then onto LAX. Hhhmm which would you prefer? Crapsville DJ for 3 hours to Sydney followed by average UAL for 12.5 hours to LAX or Singapore Airlines all the way & an hour or so on US?? If I was flying from Perth to the US I know which one I'd take!!!


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1947 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

Watching everyone put US Airways down is understandable, but do you really thnk they are any worse than all of our other "fine" U.S. carriers? I just connected from a biz class KAL Jumbo onto a WN 737 flight. I had a reality check there every bit as much. It could be worse...You could be connecting onto Delta  Smile

User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11500 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4637 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 10):
Watching everyone put US Airways down is understandable, but do you really thnk they are any worse than all of our other "fine" U.S. carriers?

They're still clinging to the dated notion that Delta is somehow a classier carrier, while everyone knows that they're "just another American major."



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User currently offlineBosWashSprStar From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):
Well SIA chose US instead of UA on 4 of those 5 routes. UA operates SFO/LAX to LAS/PHX. However United doesn't have first class. They operate either United Express or Ted on those routes. Therefore, US actually provides a superior service, and therefore is better at connecting SQ passengers to their premium long haul flights.

SQ and UA also detest each other (I hear this is a longstanding rivalry, but it has become more heated since SQ applied to compete on one of UA's crown jewel routes, SYD-LAX).

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
best service to worst service...the star of star alliance (in my opinion) to the shame.

I'm not sure that US is any worse than some of its *A peers. When is the last time you flew NZ on a short-to-medium length flight? OZ J (on their 744s) from ICN to JFK? And for that matter, many of the services on United itself?

US Airways isn't the best, but it's not a torture chamber, and all of the codeshare flights are pretty short.


User currently offlineElcapi1980 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Quoting PanPan (Reply 3):

who do you think was the best option? United, Delta, NW......none of the above in my experience as a passenger get close to US airways.....Unfortunatelly CO & AA have no strong presence such as US in the west coast which to my mind were the # 1 & 2 choice .....



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
So, you can now circle the world on US Airways coded flights in theory (example: PHL>MAN>SIN>LAX>PHL)

I have to correct myself, its not clear whether or not US would have code-shares out of LAX to SIN and vice-versa.



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
I agree, what on EARTH is SQ thinking by getting in to bed with US Airways?! 5 star airline to a 3 star airline, best service to worst service...the star of star alliance (in my opinion) to the shame.

SIA is better than any airline out there so I guess that could be stated for anyone....they are all in the same alliance so I'm sure they thought more of the marketing aspect, rather than the service aspect. Besides most of those flights are just over an hour...how much service does one expect?


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 15):
Besides most of those flights are just over an hour...how much service does one expect?

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User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5126 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 15):
Besides most of those flights are just over an hour...how much service does one expect?

= Fly some of the Asian carriers and you will understand how much service one expects. No reason for race to the bottom  Wink.

-A.



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User currently offlineThegooddoctor From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4161 times:

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 8):
And how many americans can find Bandar Seri Begawan on the map???? Wink

....Gold star for bagging on Americans! I love cultural elitism - it's just as ignorant as the comments usually make Americans out to be, but it's so cute when you're a college student  Wink


As for the codeshare - Anyone see SQ nonstops comming to places where there aren't any currently... like PHX/LAS/PHL?



The GoodDoctor
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4155 times:

Quoting PanPan (Reply 3):
SIA has such great service. It's going to be a huge letdown for their passengers getting on an airline as downmarket as US. US, home of the advertising on the tray tables in first. You gotta wonder what SIA is thinking.

As an outsider who has no allegiences to any American carrier, let me say that I have had some of my best domestic flights on your well hated US Airways. The only... and I repeat only airline that has pretty decent service is Continental. End of Story. Don't come to the table with Delta, AA, United, Northwest as they are all pretty crappy. So SIA might as well go with US. Whats more the people at SIA must have investigated US and were impressed enough, before agreeing to do a codeshare with them.

P.S. I fly AA cause they fly where I need to fly, but for no other reason.

[Edited 2007-03-15 20:54:01]

[Edited 2007-03-15 20:54:30]


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User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 840 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4153 times:

US is currently codesharing to HKG, now they add SIN, good job!


Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

Complete route and flight numbers

LAX - LAS US112/SQ1112 US066/SQ1106
LAS - LAX US104/SQ1104 US2746/SQ1146 US15/SQ1115
SFO - LAS US71/SQ1171
LAS - SFO US466/SQ1166 US574/SQ1174
LAX - PHX US2931/SQ1131 US036/SQ1136
PHX - LAX US027/SQ1127 US034/SQ1134 US038/SQ1138
SFO - PHX US493/SQ1193
PHX - SFO US400/SQ1100 US405/SQ1105
JFK - CLT US2809/SQ1109
CLT - JFK US2622/SQ1122

SIN - LAX SQ038/US5401
LAX - SIN SQ037/US5400
SIN - HKG - SFO SQ002/US5403
SFO - HKG - SIN SQ001/US5402
SIN - AMS SQ324/US5411
AMS - SIN SQ323/US5410
SIN - MAN SQ328/US5413
MAN - SIN SQ327/US5412
SIN - ZRH SQ346/US5415
ZRH - SIN SQ345/US5414

SIN - BWN SQ182/US5420
BWN - SIN SQ181/US5421
SIN - JKT SQ952/US5422 SQ958/US5423
JKT - SIN SQ957/US5424
SIN - DPS SQ942/US5425
DPS - SIN SQ941/US5426
SIN - PER SQ223/US5427
PER - SIN SQ224/US5428
SIN - SGN SQ178/US5429
SGN - SIN SQ171/US5430


User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11500 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

When did US start serving JFK-CLT? Will that be on a commuter jet?


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4103 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 22):
When did US start serving JFK-CLT? Will that be on a commuter jet?

They have been for a while, mostly in response to B6 service between the two. It is an express route flown by regional jet. They were able to do it after the merger since HP previously served JFK.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9263 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 1):
I think thats good to hear. Though I'm surprised they'd leave PHL off that list.

Yeah, I am a little surprised at this as well. This could be a way for US to enter Asia from PHL via JFK, unless of course they're given the approval for China flights out of PHL...

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 23):
Quoting D L X (Reply 22):
When did US start serving JFK-CLT? Will that be on a commuter jet?

They have been for a while, mostly in response to B6 service between the two. It is an express route flown by regional jet. They were able to do it after the merger since HP previously served JFK.

I was going to say that myself, but you beat me to it...

I would like to see SQ enter the PHL market...



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25 Post contains images SQ452 : Hahaha, well, I can actually find it on the map, because I used to live in the region. Don't get me wrong, I love my country, and fellow citizens, bu
26 Thegooddoctor : I agree with you that our education system if sorely lacking... However, I'm not sure if Borat is necessarily the best measuring stick (that's like d
27 Flyjetstar : But I think the point that was being made was in relation to flights under 1 hour. I'm sure even on such short flights even the Asian carriers can't
28 D L X : So, this also means that US will be the first American airline to "fly" the A380.
29 NW748i : Kudos to the esteemed Mr. Parker and the US Mgt. for putting this together. Even if those who dis the customer service at US are correct (I can't reme
30 SQ452 : no...not really[Edited 2007-03-22 17:22:43]
31 D L X : There is a reason the word fly was in quotes there, dude. Will you not be able to buy a ticket that says "US Airways Flight XXX" with A380 equipment?
32 Jimyvr : At least any of the flights US will codeshare on is not going to be operated by SQ A380
33 BOACVC10 : With regard to SQ FFP Krisflyer members flying on SQ/US code share on an SQ ticket, would they earn the same miles as a regular SQ ticket (example: Y
34 D L X : Isn't SQ planning to operate the A380 on the LAX-SIN runs? That's one of the runs with a US code.
35 SQ452 : Think so (needs to check). I know they are planning to use it on U.S.A. routes, just dont remember which ones (want to say JFK).
36 MotorHussy : How many Americans can find America on the map (if borders and titles aren't included)? Apparently less than 20%. MH
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