Ewmahle From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4183 times:
I guess GSO has finally gotten some LCC service that they had been awaiting. After being overlooked by JetBlue and losing Independence Air I know that a lot of people were hoping to get some low fares into PTI. They announced service to Orlando and Tampa. Introductory fares starting at $49 with service 3x a week starting May 24th. At least it is a start, we will see how long it lasts. The e-mail is below.
NEW LOW FARE SERVICE TO FLORIDA!
New Low Fare Service from PTI to Orlando and Tampa Bay Fares from Just $49*
Low-cost airline Allegiant Air announced today new non-stop service to Orlando and the Tampa Bay area from PTI beginning May 24, 2007. The new flights will operate three days weekly, with service on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.
For its Orlando service, flights will depart Piedmont Triad Airport (PTI) at 4:00 p.m. and arrive in Orlando Sanford International Airport at 5:35 p.m. Flights leaving Orlando will depart at 6:10 p.m. and arrive in PTI at 7:45 p.m. For its Tampa Bay service, flights will depart PTI at 8:20 p.m. and arrive into St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport at 10:00 p.m. Flights leaving St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport will depart at 1:45 p.m. and arrive in PTI at 3:25 p.m.
For a limited time, Allegiant is offering a one-way introductory fare of $49 on select flights from PTI to Orlando and Tampa Bay . Tickets must be purchased by April 7, 2007, for travel through Nov. 17, 2007. After the introductory fare period, regular one-way fares on the route start as low as $69 one-way. To make a reservation, visit Allegiant's Web site at www.allegiantair.com .
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4150 times:
yeah! taht's good.. perhaps they will add LAS soon too!
GSO has been thoroughly overlooked and I am not sure why, but this is very good news.. hopefully they will start seeing some more upgraded service too!
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4145 times:
Good news indeed - I might have to check them out for TPA service.
Anyone know which terminal/gate? There are a few vacant jetways on the South side (the 2 former Delta gates); I believe all jetways are being used on the South side, and it's unlikely they'd get a new jetway just for Allegiant. They could also quite easily use one of DL's or US's current gates and let them handle the ground side.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4132 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1): yeah! taht's good.. perhaps they will add LAS soon too!
GSO has been thoroughly overlooked and I am not sure why, but this is very good news.. hopefully they will start seeing some more upgraded service too!
If G4 starts GSO-LAS, who gets to sit on the ferry tanks? Also, would those seats cost less
Odd that you of all people dont know why GSO gets overlooked
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4127 times:
G4 can make GSO-LAS no problem.. it makes RDU-LAS no problem.. I think..
Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 3): Odd that you of all people dont know why GSO gets overlooked
I do and I don't.. as always, the "down the road" factor comes up (but yet, not the "up the road" factor as much.. odd).. but GSO has decent traffic of it's own. I could see some of the airlines upgrading to E70/E90/737.. but it's just odd that they only get 4 mainline aircraft a day.. and NONE from US!! Oh well..
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4116 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4): G4 can make GSO-LAS no problem.. it makes RDU-LAS no problem.. I think..
No, I'm pretty sure they cant. I heard TOL was pushing it for them on the westbound leg.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4102 times:
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4091 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 6): G4 used to do some charters ILM-RDU-LAS.. not sure if they had a fuel stop or not, but I know they used to do it..
Fuel-stop. Unless they lucked out on some freakishly low headwinds, they stopped.
Their Md-87's have a better chance of pulling it off than the md 83s, but I still dont think its do-able on a regular basis.
They do a CRW-RNO charter once a year that always stops somehere.
ERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4083 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 6): G4 used to do some charters ILM-RDU-LAS.. not sure if they had a fuel stop or not, but I know they used to do it..
yea i used to work these flights in ILM. Damn i wish we could get ILM-SFB. I lived in Sanford while i was at Embry-riddle. I want to go visit soon.
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4021 times:
It's not that they couldn't fly TOL-LAS, it's they couldn't do it profitably. With the aux tanks on some MD83s, they could easily fly GSO-LAS, but could they do it at a profit?
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3997 times:
Well, looking at the charter schedule coming up for the Reno Charters, I see nonstop service coming up from IAD, ALB, ISP, ERI, EWR, MDT, ORF, CLT and LBE.
As for the IFP charters, I see westbound nonstops PNS, TPA, CLE, FLL/AUS (joint flight), PIT, PBI, ABE, SFB, and there were March charters for EWR, CLT, LAN, SWF, BUF, CMH, ATL, ILM/RDU (joing flight), RIC and BWI.
I'm guessing they are still using their MD-87 a/c for the charters, right? The MD-87 was chosen for the charter ops, I think moreso to accomodate the Laughlin flights for its greater range capability, right?
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3984 times:
If I were a betting man or a psychic.. I could really see Allegiant offering a 2x weekly LAS flight from GSO.. and eventually making SFB and PIE at least 5x weekly... the pax are there.. and the prices are finally right.. lets hope GSO utilizes it and it doesn't get away (a la FL)
JetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1613 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3980 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): Good news indeed - I might have to check them out for TPA service.
I flew it two weeks ago and LOVED it.
Workin on a G4 TR with pix.
They have a great product and great employess
Home Airport: Capital Region International Airport (KLAN)
727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5722 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3963 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): Good news indeed - I might have to check them out for TPA service.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3910 times:
On the charters someone else is paying the bills which makes a difference on the longer flights. For example fuel cost, weight/loads, etc do not need to be part of the profit equation for Allegiant.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
PiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3893 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 11): lets hope GSO utilizes it and it doesn't get away (a la FL)
As far as I remember it was more like they were run out of town on a rail by the GSO Airport Authority. I cant remember why exactly, but FL did something to piss everyone off at GSO enough to kick them out.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3882 times:
Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 15): but FL did something to piss everyone off at GSO enough to kick them out.
No?!?!??! I thought ridership was low.. what did they do? Oh my God.. issues..
Ewmahle From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3800 times:
I would expect them to share a gate and maybe contract out the ground work. It does not make anysense to set up a gate and hire the staff at this time. AA and DL both still send MDs to GSO so if there is any speacilized equipment needed for the MDs those would be there best choices. If that were the case I would assume AA would come out on top as DL serves Orlando from GSO.
How is check in going to work? They will have to setup there own Check in counter and man that with employees 3 days a week won't they or can they some how contract that out as well?
JetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1613 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3745 times:
Speaking of PIE serice, here is a picture from my recent G4 trip to PIE
Home Airport: Capital Region International Airport (KLAN)
CasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3260 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3700 times:
Hmmm, I wonder how this will turn out.
Most of the traffic loss in GSO has been due to a lack of competition. I'd like to see Allegiant succeed, but I wonder how aggressive US and DL are going to be on these routes. It won't take much for Delta to give Allegiant a run for their money in Orlando. Allegiant might be ok in Tampa service, but once again, US or Delta could easily start up routes just to knock them out of the Market.
Best of Luck to GSO and G4.
Anyone know how the Fayetteville, NC flights on Allegiant are doing?
Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3677 times:
Quoting CasInterest (Reply 19): Anyone know how the Fayetteville, NC flights on Allegiant are doing?
Fdex727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3664 times:
Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 15): As far as I remember it was more like they were run out of town on a rail by the GSO Airport Authority. I cant remember why exactly, but FL did something to piss everyone off at GSO enough to kick them out.
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 16): No?!?!??! I thought ridership was low.. what did they do? Oh my God.. issues..
I worked with FL in GSO while on furlough from UA. The reason for FL's departure was the airport authority wanted to increase landing fees and rent to extend the North Concourse. FL did not want anymore gates or space and objected, this is where the falling out began. I would also have to say the CRJ's had a role as well, flights were full, but when we were on a flow control to ATL for three hours and DL would leave on time it left a very bad impression. The last issue happened after I left, but I witnessed everything from FL cancelling all flights during the last week to none of the employees showing up the last two days of operation. We at UA and DL worked with the FL station manager to accept their tickets and reroute passengers.
I miss FL and do wish they would return, but its next to impossible right no with the current members of the airport authority.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3644 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 20): Quoting CasInterest (Reply 19):
Anyone know how the Fayetteville, NC flights on Allegiant are doing?
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3640 times:
Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 22): What happened there? It seems like it would take alot to not be able to sustain two weekly flights to Orlando.
Good question, I don't know the market so I have no idea.
In the article it says During the carrier’s best month in Fayetteville, its planes were 54 percent full, said Brad Whited, director of Fayetteville Regional Airport. Allegiant was selling tickets for about $80, a 50 percent discount.
When Allegiant removed its discount, the bookings fell further, he said. For a flight in May, Allegiant sold about 20 tickets on a 150-seat plane.
I give Allegiant lots of credit for being willing to try new markets. Most carriers would not take a risk, instead OAL stick to "safer" markets. But I like that Allegiant is willing to make the tough decisions, if it isn't working out like was hoped then why keep spending money.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3629 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3637 times:
Thats too bad for FAY. Considering the drive time from Fayetteville to Orlando though, Its not a big surprise things didnt work out.
I still hope to see G4 in my city some day. Our proximity to hts may turn them away though.
25 Boeing757/767: It will be interesting to see the affect GSO service will have on Allegiant flights to ROA.
26 Delta767: From what I understand, the airport authority is eager to have any low-fare carrier back including FL...they must not be able to agree on fees or dema
27 Gsoflyer: When FlyI was starting to do really well to Tampa, Delta started the service, lowered prices and started taking the competition. FlyI ended up dumping
28 BillReid: PIE=DEATH Look at all the airlines that have failed after PIE service. Good riddence Allegiamt.
29 Gsoflyer: You're right. I fly out of GSO quite a bit now and what are steeper fares than RDU. I am rarely on a flight, morning, midday or evening that isn't ful
30 Delta767: I think part of it is that the competition there from Southwest and others keeps fares significantly lower.
31 ERJ170: 1 reason is because a lot of business travelers/consultants fly in and out of RDU, which means there are a lot more last minutes flights which cost a
32 JetBlueGuy2006: Really, they have been doing quite well from what I understand.
33 Gsoflyer: I mean, if that is the case, then why doesn't GSO see an upgrade in flights on the weekend or RDU see a downgrade in flights? I am so sick and tired
34 ERJ170: RDU does see a downgrade in flights and aircraft size in the weekends.. there are a LOT of RJ flights on the weekend that are mainline during the wee
35 FATFlyer: Actually Allegiant is much stronger than Shuttle America or Eastwind. It is definitely not 2nd rate. Allegiant's stock today is about $31/share, up f
36 Gsoflyer: I get what you are saying FATFLyer, but Allegiant serves Orlando and Tampa, two areas that I have no reason to go to. So it is hard for me to support
37 FATFlyer: I know, but too many people misunderstand what Allegiant is though. They are a leisure travel company and don't try to be anything else. Too many sta
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