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Boeing Ends Production For 747-400 PAX Version  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 21989 times:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/307716_boeing16.html

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After a production run of more than 450 planes, The Boeing Co. has built its final 747-400 passenger jet.


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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 21924 times:

On to bigger and better things now (literally) LOL


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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9652 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 21900 times:

I think it is appropriate that the last 744 passenger order was converted to a 773ER since that plane essentially ended any possibility of further 744 orders.

We'll see where the 748 Interncontinental goes. I hadn't even realized that LH had ordered 20. I must have been asleep under a log.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12478 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 21540 times:

It's kind of academic, in that the newest 744 pax (with CAL) is two years old; all 744s now in production of scheduled, until the 747-8 is delivered, are freighters.

450 is a very respectable production run for a large aircraft. The 747 is already at around 1,380 deliveries and the combined 747 order book must be close to 1,500 - if it hasn't exceeded it already.

I'm really pleased that the 747 has found a new lease of life in the -8; there's a lot of airplanes I really like (A340, 777, 767, A310), one I detest with a passion (BAe 146), but there's only one greatest ... and that's the 747. It should go out on a high and I hope the 747-8 is a huge success.


User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 21517 times:

The humpback will be flying well into this century, no need to shed a tear for the -400. Anyone who hasn't flown on one already will have many more years to hop on one.

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 21402 times:

I would like to hop on one when I go to Japan or China... as soon as I am able to afford that...

I will never forget that time I was at the end of the C concourse at PIT and was staring right up at a BA 744. That was the closest I ever got to a 747. Just staring up at this colossal piece of equipment, with those massive 8-foot air intakes on those engines.

I was 9 years old at the time...



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 21336 times:

From Crain's

http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=24256


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9449 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21041 times:

is the 747-400ER pax done to or can airlines still get those?


yep.
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3951 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20944 times:

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):
is the 747-400ER pax done to or can airlines still get those?

No, that'll be dead as well as it's just a normal pax 400 with fatter engines.

R


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 20690 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 8):
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):
is the 747-400ER pax done to or can airlines still get those?

No, that'll be dead as well as it's just a normal pax 400 with fatter engines.

R

and the ability to fly about 800NM further


User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 20270 times:

This is a tragedy for me :'(

Cheers,
Nicolas Rubio



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19806 times:
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The 744 is truly a majestic lady, I enjoyed several rides om her in the upper Deck on some the world's best airlines in her upper deck. Flying Business Class on Qantas and Singapore Airlines have been among my more memorable trips, getting there is really half the fun. It will be quite some time before the existing 744 passenger fleet is replaced. As beautiful as the 777 is a 744 she isn't.

User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19527 times:

Well, this is truely a sad annoucement for me.  cry  Ive loved the 747 all my life and now, its gone. of course, there is the 747-8 , but the 747-400 was the last 747 to reatin its orginal landmarks: 231 ft long, triple slotted flap, landing gear, etc. I hope more airlines order ther 747-8I Pax, because the day the 747 family is retired, a part of me will be numb.  tombstone 


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User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1246 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19206 times:

To whom did the last 744 PAX go? Who is CAL and have all 747s produced in the last 2 years been freighters?

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 3):
It's kind of academic, in that the newest 744 pax (with CAL) is two years old; all 744s now in production of scheduled, until the 747-8 is delivered, are freighters.

Please elaborate.



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User currently offlineAmritpal From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19171 times:

thats a sad announcement. i liked the 747. wonderful plane. although sat in it only couple times, but admire it. waiting for 747i.


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5337 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19093 times:

Well the end of the line for the 744, what a great aircraft! Roll on the 748!

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 14):
To whom did the last 744 PAX go? Who is CAL and have all 747s produced in the last 2 years been freighters?

China Airlines of Taiwan. And yes all 744's produced since that last delivery to CI have been 744F's ERF's maybe a VIP aircraft in there?


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19038 times:

Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 11):
This is a tragedy for me :'(



Quoting Amritpal (Reply 15):
thats a sad announcement. i liked the 747. wonderful plane. although sat in it only couple times, but admire it. waiting for 747i.

I don't see why people would mourn this as if a funeral dirge were playing. It is, after all, being replaced by a superior derivative. It would be different if the 747 were being discontinued altogether. Did you two also shed tears for the 772A?



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User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1618 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 18323 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2):
We'll see where the 748 Interncontinental goes. I hadn't even realized that LH had ordered 20. I must have been asleep under a log.

20 + 20 options.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5765 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17642 times:

I guess the call that PR cancelled their remaining 4 747-400s was right on.

I ws wrong about the new 748 orders yesterday. I thought they were I but they are Fs.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17441 times:

How many of the 450 744's produced are still in service....? I believe quite a few have already gone to the scrapyards in the deserts.....

User currently offlineDeltajet757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17215 times:

I'm sad to hear that the pax 744 is going out of production but it still has life; the 747-8.

I remember my first flight on a 744. And yes it was a 744 because I remember whining to my dad about going up on the upper deck. Back then the 747 was about the only plane I could identify and have evidense to prove that it was in fact a 747.

-DeltaJet757



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User currently offlineTristarfreak From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17084 times:

WOW I new it was coming but I had no idea this soon I would thought they would wait until at least ext year or sometime closer to the 747-8 pax launch but I guess the 773ER just ran (or flew  Wink) it straight out of the production (who knew there would be competing planes both made by Boeing :S)

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16963 times:

Amazing Run.Now time for the B748i
regds
MEL



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6923 posts, RR: 63
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16912 times:

An amazing plane - and a great success for Boeing. I've (so far) flown on 747-400s in the colours of

Cathay Pacific
BA
QANTAS
Singapore Airlines
Thai
Lufthansa
ANA

and I hope there are many more to come. It'd be nice to add SAA and NZ to get the full (but small) set of pax 744s with RR but I suspect I've missed my chance.

Still, if ever a sub-model of an airliner deserved the title "classic" the 747-400 is it.

The 747-100 entered service promising to revolutionise air travel. Arguably, it wasn't really until the -400 that this became a reality. It has been huge fleets of -400s rather than any -100s, -200s or -300s that have shifted squillions of people around the planet.

Outside of the USA, are there any significant long-haul operators that never ordered or operated the 747-400? It depends how you choose to define "significant" but I can't immediately think of any.


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16789 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
And a center fuel tank that eats up lower deck cargo space

Do you mean that the auxiliary fuel tanks are the ones taking up lower deck cargo space? As far as I know, the actual Centre Wing Tank (CWT) structure is the same physical size for all 747 models.

Regards, JetMech



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25 KFLLCFII : How does that prove it was a 744?
26 Steeler83 : Yeah, it could've been any 747 for that matter... did the aircraft have one set of windows like on the 741 or 742? Or was a second set present as on
27 MCOflyer : By not having the spiral stair case makes it a 743/744 or a SUD conversion. MCOflyer
28 11Bravo : Some have been converted to freighters, but of the original 744 PAX models, 445 are still in service (419 744, 6 744ER, 20 744D). Six aircraft are in
29 CXfirst : This news actually surprises me. Why would they end production now, and not when they get close to producing the 747-8? There's still a couple of yea
30 WestJetForLife : Well, I never saw that one coming. I guess it's something we all had to expect. It's one of those things that make you go "wow". It's sort of an end
31 Post contains images Tbear815 : I've only flown the -400 three times, but the -100 and -200 frequently and the -SP once; alas, never the -300. There's something inately special about
32 ZK-NBT : Thats 450+ PAX 744 plus probably 200 250 744F's. No 744's have been scrapped and won't be for a few years yet, some older PAX versions have been conv
33 EK413 : I beleive this was request from Qantas... This way they operate the SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX routes without weight restrictions... EK413
34 Moriarty : All good things must come to an end I guess. I have at least flown 744 once, AF CDG-SFO, it was really nice. If I ever have to pick one favourite airc
35 Ha763 : Because Boeing has zero unfilled pax 747-400 orders and there are no more 747-400 production slots left. All the remaining 747-400 production slots a
36 Lostmoon744 : As one can tell from my callsign, I am a 744 fanatic learning all of her intricacies all these years. I was lucky enough to be on the left seat of a l
37 NA : The Queen of the skies is dead. Long live the Queen! Farewell to the greatest airplane built so far.
38 Qantas744ER : I could really shead a tear now! From the beginning of my aviation enthusiasm the 747-400 has been my true dream plane! Like others have said the 747-
39 PM : Try something with RR, Why don'tcha?!
40 1stfl94 : Lets hope the 748 will last as long as the 744, though 18 years is a long time to be in production.
41 MCOflyer : I think WINGS should do a tribute to the 744 pax version. I have never flown on the 744 pax, but love seing them. For the pilots, it must cool being a
42 Post contains images Steeler83 : AMEN! I want so badly to have the privilage of flying on one of those birds. I would like to see a tribute as well. I am sure that flying a 747 would
43 JAM747 : What about the 744 that overran into the water at Kai Tak?
44 BN727 : Why all the sad faces. The 747-8 intercontinental is going to way out cool the 747-400. This is going to be a super 747 and I can't wait to see this b
45 Post contains images EK413 : Sadly the B747 program will be replaced by the lovely and more economical twin program B777/B787... With the LH order of 20 B748Intercontinental it ha
46 BosWashSprStar : A lot of important players have yet to weigh in on the 748/380, so there's plenty of fuel to add to the 748 run yet. For example, it would be an upse
47 PM : As I understand it, the firm expectation that sales would be far less than the 744 was what made Boeing insist on only one engine option.
48 Bwest : Sad to see her go. Without a doubt my favorite aircraft, though I've only flown in a 744 once, from Singapore to Hongkong with Cathay. Will be on a BA
49 ZK-NBT : That was declared a write off, as was a KE 744 that overran the runway at Seoul in 1998.
50 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Thanks
51 N1120A : They can get 748Is, which are better in every way. More like 300-400
52 SEPilot : Although pax versions will sell only limited numbers from here on out, I believe that the 748F is going to be in demand for some time, unless it gets
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