Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 20085 times:
I think it is appropriate that the last 744 passenger order was converted to a 773ER since that plane essentially ended any possibility of further 744 orders.
We'll see where the 748 Interncontinental goes. I hadn't even realized that LH had ordered 20. I must have been asleep under a log.
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Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11952 posts, RR: 37 Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19725 times:
It's kind of academic, in that the newest 744 pax (with CAL) is two years old; all 744s now in production of scheduled, until the 747-8 is delivered, are freighters.
450 is a very respectable production run for a large aircraft. The 747 is already at around 1,380 deliveries and the combined 747 order book must be close to 1,500 - if it hasn't exceeded it already.
I'm really pleased that the 747 has found a new lease of life in the -8; there's a lot of airplanes I really like (A340, 777, 767, A310), one I detest with a passion (BAe 146), but there's only one greatest ... and that's the 747. It should go out on a high and I hope the 747-8 is a huge success.
Futurecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19702 times:
The humpback will be flying well into this century, no need to shed a tear for the -400. Anyone who hasn't flown on one already will have many more years to hop on one.
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8809 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 19587 times:
I would like to hop on one when I go to Japan or China... as soon as I am able to afford that...
I will never forget that time I was at the end of the C concourse at PIT and was staring right up at a BA 744. That was the closest I ever got to a 747. Just staring up at this colossal piece of equipment, with those massive 8-foot air intakes on those engines.
I was 9 years old at the time...
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United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2344 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 19521 times:
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8581 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 19226 times:
is the 747-400ER pax done to or can airlines still get those?
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Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17991 times:
The 744 is truly a majestic lady, I enjoyed several rides om her in the upper Deck on some the world's best airlines in her upper deck. Flying Business Class on Qantas and Singapore Airlines have been among my more memorable trips, getting there is really half the fun. It will be quite some time before the existing 744 passenger fleet is replaced. As beautiful as the 777 is a 744 she isn't.
HighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1236 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17712 times:
Well, this is truely a sad annoucement for me. Ive loved the 747 all my life and now, its gone. of course, there is the 747-8 , but the 747-400 was the last 747 to reatin its orginal landmarks: 231 ft long, triple slotted flap, landing gear, etc. I hope more airlines order ther 747-8I Pax, because the day the 747 family is retired, a part of me will be numb.
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AA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1112 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17391 times:
To whom did the last 744 PAX go? Who is CAL and have all 747s produced in the last 2 years been freighters?
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 3): It's kind of academic, in that the newest 744 pax (with CAL) is two years old; all 744s now in production of scheduled, until the 747-8 is delivered, are freighters.
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17223 times:
Quoting Amritpal (Reply 15): thats a sad announcement. i liked the 747. wonderful plane. although sat in it only couple times, but admire it. waiting for 747i.
I don't see why people would mourn this as if a funeral dirge were playing. It is, after all, being replaced by a superior derivative. It would be different if the 747 were being discontinued altogether. Did you two also shed tears for the 772A?
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Glideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 16508 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2): We'll see where the 748 Interncontinental goes. I hadn't even realized that LH had ordered 20. I must have been asleep under a log.
20 + 20 options.
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NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5153 posts, RR: 49 Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15827 times:
I guess the call that PR cancelled their remaining 4 747-400s was right on.
I ws wrong about the new 748 orders yesterday. I thought they were I but they are Fs.
Deltajet757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15400 times:
I'm sad to hear that the pax 744 is going out of production but it still has life; the 747-8.
I remember my first flight on a 744. And yes it was a 744 because I remember whining to my dad about going up on the upper deck. Back then the 747 was about the only plane I could identify and have evidense to prove that it was in fact a 747.
Tristarfreak From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 15269 times:
WOW I new it was coming but I had no idea this soon I would thought they would wait until at least ext year or sometime closer to the 747-8 pax launch but I guess the 773ER just ran (or flew ) it straight out of the production (who knew there would be competing planes both made by Boeing :S)
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 65 Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 15097 times:
An amazing plane - and a great success for Boeing. I've (so far) flown on 747-400s in the colours of
Cathay Pacific
BA
QANTAS
Singapore Airlines
Thai
Lufthansa
ANA
and I hope there are many more to come. It'd be nice to add SAA and NZ to get the full (but small) set of pax 744s with RR but I suspect I've missed my chance.
Still, if ever a sub-model of an airliner deserved the title "classic" the 747-400 is it.
The 747-100 entered service promising to revolutionise air travel. Arguably, it wasn't really until the -400 that this became a reality. It has been huge fleets of -400s rather than any -100s, -200s or -300s that have shifted squillions of people around the planet.
Outside of the USA, are there any significant long-haul operators that never ordered or operated the 747-400? It depends how you choose to define "significant" but I can't immediately think of any.
JetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2587 posts, RR: 53 Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14974 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10): And a center fuel tank that eats up lower deck cargo space
Do you mean that the auxiliary fuel tanks are the ones taking up lower deck cargo space? As far as I know, the actual Centre Wing Tank (CWT) structure is the same physical size for all 747 models.
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26 Steeler83: Yeah, it could've been any 747 for that matter... did the aircraft have one set of windows like on the 741 or 742? Or was a second set present as on
27 MCOflyer: By not having the spiral stair case makes it a 743/744 or a SUD conversion. MCOflyer
28 11Bravo: Some have been converted to freighters, but of the original 744 PAX models, 445 are still in service (419 744, 6 744ER, 20 744D). Six aircraft are in
29 CXfirst: This news actually surprises me. Why would they end production now, and not when they get close to producing the 747-8? There's still a couple of yea
30 WestJetForLife: Well, I never saw that one coming. I guess it's something we all had to expect. It's one of those things that make you go "wow". It's sort of an end
31 Tbear815: I've only flown the -400 three times, but the -100 and -200 frequently and the -SP once; alas, never the -300. There's something inately special about
32 ZK-NBT: Thats 450+ PAX 744 plus probably 200 250 744F's. No 744's have been scrapped and won't be for a few years yet, some older PAX versions have been conv
33 EK413: I beleive this was request from Qantas... This way they operate the SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX routes without weight restrictions... EK413
34 Moriarty: All good things must come to an end I guess. I have at least flown 744 once, AF CDG-SFO, it was really nice. If I ever have to pick one favourite airc
35 Ha763: Because Boeing has zero unfilled pax 747-400 orders and there are no more 747-400 production slots left. All the remaining 747-400 production slots a
36 Lostmoon744: As one can tell from my callsign, I am a 744 fanatic learning all of her intricacies all these years. I was lucky enough to be on the left seat of a l
37 NA: The Queen of the skies is dead. Long live the Queen! Farewell to the greatest airplane built so far.
38 Qantas744ER: I could really shead a tear now! From the beginning of my aviation enthusiasm the 747-400 has been my true dream plane! Like others have said the 747-
40 1stfl94: Lets hope the 748 will last as long as the 744, though 18 years is a long time to be in production.
41 MCOflyer: I think WINGS should do a tribute to the 744 pax version. I have never flown on the 744 pax, but love seing them. For the pilots, it must cool being a
42 Steeler83: AMEN! I want so badly to have the privilage of flying on one of those birds. I would like to see a tribute as well. I am sure that flying a 747 would
43 JAM747: What about the 744 that overran into the water at Kai Tak?
44 BN727: Why all the sad faces. The 747-8 intercontinental is going to way out cool the 747-400. This is going to be a super 747 and I can't wait to see this b
45 EK413: Sadly the B747 program will be replaced by the lovely and more economical twin program B777/B787... With the LH order of 20 B748Intercontinental it ha
46 BosWashSprStar: A lot of important players have yet to weigh in on the 748/380, so there's plenty of fuel to add to the 748 run yet. For example, it would be an upse
47 PM: As I understand it, the firm expectation that sales would be far less than the 744 was what made Boeing insist on only one engine option.
48 Bwest: Sad to see her go. Without a doubt my favorite aircraft, though I've only flown in a 744 once, from Singapore to Hongkong with Cathay. Will be on a BA
49 ZK-NBT: That was declared a write off, as was a KE 744 that overran the runway at Seoul in 1998.
51 N1120A: They can get 748Is, which are better in every way. More like 300-400
52 SEPilot: Although pax versions will sell only limited numbers from here on out, I believe that the 748F is going to be in demand for some time, unless it gets