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Overhead Bins Creaking On Takeoff And Landing  
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7772 times:

I've been flying for over 30 years, but only recently have noticed that on widebodies the overhead bins creak on takeoff and landing. Not surprising when you consider the stresses on the airframe, but have any other a.netters noticed this?

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7743 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
have any other a.netters noticed this?

It was my favorite thing about the L-1011s when they were flying for Eastern and Delta. They creaked and moaned on takeoff like a $10 hooker and it was great.



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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7699 times:

I have noticed the bins over the middle sections moving side to side, or up and down during takeoff/landing and turbulence. Doesn't surprise me when I hear the creaking though. Its like anything, a creak in the floor your car, or your body haha.

User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7658 times:

The fun really starts when they actually OPEN on takeoff or landing (767s and 747s epsecially). You end up spending the rest of the takeoff roll and early stages of climb watching that bag just 'edging' closer and closer to the edge, and all you can do is hope it doesn't fall on that small child or elderly person's head.
Similarly, whilst it's always nice that a passenger makes the effort to get up and close it; it's not too great when they get up whilst the aircraft is literally touching down!


User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1962 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7642 times:

on the 747-100 and -200 series especially the bins over the center seats used to shudder and moan on takeoff and landing (and during turbulence), I don't remember it happening much on newer aircraft,,,


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7455 times:

Remember the Sidewalls & overhead bins are attached to the Bulkheads.As the Aircraft sways.The play increases & on older Aircraft a creaking sound could be heard.Its not that the Aircraft structure is creaking.
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MEL



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7316 times:

Quoting N229NW (Reply 4):
on the 747-100 and -200 series especially the bins over the center seats used to shudder and moan on takeoff and landing (and during turbulence), I don't remember it happening much on newer aircraft,,,

Oh yes it does! I'm not talking about the movement and rattlling that you hear on the take-off roll. I'm talking about a gradual, gentle creaking sound as the wings take over and lift the aircraft off the ground. You have to listen hard to hear it.


User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7306 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
I've been flying for over 30 years, but only recently have noticed that on widebodies the overhead bins creak on takeoff and landing. Not surprising when you consider the stresses on the airframe, but have any other a.netters noticed this?

Very true. I noticed this when operating a positioning flight in our B737-800. The cabin of course was empty and I was sitting at the overwings. You notice it a lot more if you sit in the middle I think. You hear the creaking and moaning of the lockers quite loudly. Quite weird.

Nick



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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3922 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7288 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 7):
Very true. I noticed this when operating a positioning flight in our B737-800.

Yes Ive noticed this also on FRs 738's. I've not noticed it on 737 classics or on A32X, so I think it must be a characteristic of the aircraft. I thought it might have been the way in which the overhead lockers are mounted on the airframe? Maybe washers are being compressed or something like that?

Intereting that you noticed it in the middle of the aircraft....Ive heard it all over.

Brian.



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User currently offlineRheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7207 times:

Can be noticed at the moment the trailing edge flaps go to fully deployed on final approach, which icreases the nose-down moment of the wing by quite a margin. This needs to be compensated for by increased download on the horizontal stab to keep the planes's nose trimmed level/high. This in turn excerts a strong bending moment on the fuselage elongating it along its spine, where the overhead bins are mounted. This makes them crackle and creak.

[Edited 2007-03-17 15:44:47]

User currently offlinePersotvik From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7104 times:

I have also experienced this on A340-200/300's and as well on TG's B747-300.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7081 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 8):
I've not noticed it on 737 classics

Same here. I've never heard of this happening. Overhead bins opening on the 757 is something I've witnessed first hand.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7030 times:

I have noticed this on all my flights. It has become second nature to not pay attention to it over the years. The aircraft I have seen it worse on a RG 737-500 I believe it was. It was on my flight from MAO to BVB and we hit a bit of terbulance on aproach and the bins were bouncing and and swaying. When we touched down and were putting on reverse thrusters the bins looked like they were all going to fall down! About 6 popped open and bags fell.


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User currently offlineQslinger From India, joined Apr 2006, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7022 times:

The first time I flew Indian Airlines A300 craft, I noticed this. I was 9yrs old (1985) and man seeing the overhead bin shake and make sounds made me think that we were going to crash for sure..

It was very disturbing...thats one of the reason I would never sit in the middle seats, just the fear that it might just break off and fall on my head.



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User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

We used to have a plane in our fleet that was exceptionally bad even the toilets used to shake on takeoff and landing..It used ro an ex Ansett Australia 767-200er reg in NZ colours was ZK-NBA .. Now that was a true experience especially overwing on my first flight on that bird i thought the toilets were going to fall down on our crew seats..


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User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
. . . moaned . . . like a $10 hooker and it was great.

Are we talking about the plane or the lady for hire?  wink 


User currently offlineRenfnl From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6175 times:

I notice on every flight that the raft compartments in the ceiling of the 738 creak and moan like crazy...I always walk a little faster under those, they sound like they are going to pop open.

User currently offlineLuke7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Often on the 767. Once flying back from Europe, I got smacked in the head with the TV projector that opened by itself during touchdown.Funny situation, the whole crew apologized for the incident.

User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

I was flying MP from AMS-MCO about 2 years ago...and shortly after take off all the bins throughout the plane instantly opened and a couple of bags fell, including this guys laptop that was seating infront of me. He was pissed. It was awkward, there was litte turbulence but not so much that all the over head cabins would fall.

Damn was it scary.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

Quoting Luke7e7 (Reply 17):
I got smacked in the head with the TV projector that opened by itself during touchdown

Thats too funny.

I had to sit upfront on US 757 right by the lav (2L) and I got hit by a bag that was stored in the row fore of me when we landed at MCO. I had a headache for the rest of the night.

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User currently offlineToering From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

Last year we were departing ORD on a UAL 777 in heavy winds, and as we banked to the left, the whole plane shook and twisted. Bins were creaking and twisting, it was rather violent inside the aircraft. I have never seen that before, and I hope I never see it again. The middle bins looked as if the were going one way and the plane the other, almost as if they were attached by springs. One of the bins opened and a FA was real quick to stand and gracefully shut the bin with one hand. I'll remember that flight for a long time.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

It's not surprising considering what you guys try to cram in there. They do come with weight limits, you know.


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User currently offlineSWALoveField From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

I miss the 737-200s out of DAL on WN.

Those overhead bins would rattle, shake, creak, moan - You name it!

It added a bit a fun to every takeoff and landing.

Robb
Dallas, TX


User currently offlineKatwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
t was my favorite thing about the L-1011s when they were flying for Eastern and Delta. They creaked and moaned on takeoff like a $10 hooker and it was great.

LMAO...nice analogy.  rotfl 



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5437 times:

I've always wondered why bins spring open. I'd think that would be one hell of a safety issue and liability risk. Can't the manufacturers build better latching mechanisms?

25 We're Nuts : The springs just get worn out and need replacing eventually. We'd all love a better mousetrap, but why bother?
26 Nzrich : The doors on the overhead bins on the sides of the aircraft that we had were always opening must of been the worst locks of any aircraft.. The doors o
27 GCDEG : LOL. I know exactly what you mean Nzrich. It's the same with our 733's lockers. Passengers will struggle, pushing and panting trying to get the locke
28 Dambuster : That's nothing new, IMO one of the aspects that has the least been taken care of is the noise of interior components (like the overhead bins in airpla
29 Nzrich : Well Nick We must have the same lockers !!! Always makes me smile seeing people getting frustrated trying to open a locker..Then you come along and i
30 Srbmod : I was on a Ryan International flight (Operating for AirTran) back in April of 2004 flying ATL-LAS on an A320, and when we landed at LAS, once the thru
31 Post contains images Lorgem1 : When AC ran L-1011's to the Carribean, the bins sqeaked so much my kids panicked and they were realitivly new then. However when I travelled on the YY
32 PYP757 : Most definitely yes. The worst case was aboard an A330, Air France, taking off JFK bound for CDG.
33 CIO666 : I was surprised at how much the overhead bins moved around and creaked at take off and landing when flying on one of NZ 's new 777s ( ZK-DKD I believe
34 CaptainJon : now im glad i always insist on window. last time i sat aisle (only bc the people next to me refused to get up, my ticket was marked window) and the t
35 Post contains images ImperialEagle : LMAO Isn't that the truth! Thats the first thing I thought of when I read the opening topic! Occasionally it was bad enough squeaking that I observed
36 FlyDeltaJets87 : This happened on my flight yesterday while landing in ATL (767-300 from TPA), and we had a heck of a landing during a bitch of a crosswind. The guy w
37 Aeroflot777 : In that case, I would quickly stand up and lock it. A few seconds of standing during take-off or landing is worth the rule-break, considering what wo
38 Post contains images BMIbaby733 : Ye i had this expierience on one of Mytravel's A332's We were doing quite alot of low altitude sharp turns coming into Sanford and it was creaking tha
39 Post contains images USADreamliner : I guess that's all she can do for $10 !
40 FlyTPA : Really, if you think about it, the creaking and shifting is all part of their design. If they were rigid and unflexible, they'd pop open in an instant
41 Post contains images VHXLR8 : Maybe, but standing up LITERALLY as the wheels are touching the ground is not a good idea (as I saw a passenger do recently). And people wonder why t
42 Kevi747 : Or what about the loud popping sounds that Airbus doors make as you climb and descend. (I can only speak for the A300, because that's the only Airbus
43 Cityguy : all the time on widebodies-especially the US A330 fleet.
44 Bingo : Ill tend to put my bag in a compartment not above me for just that reason. I've hauled some pretty crazy things in my carry on that have weighed me d
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