Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5734 posts, RR: 32 Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7699 times:
I've been flying for over 30 years, but only recently have noticed that on widebodies the overhead bins creak on takeoff and landing. Not surprising when you consider the stresses on the airframe, but have any other a.netters noticed this?
Phelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7626 times:
I have noticed the bins over the middle sections moving side to side, or up and down during takeoff/landing and turbulence. Doesn't surprise me when I hear the creaking though. Its like anything, a creak in the floor your car, or your body haha.
VHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7585 times:
The fun really starts when they actually OPEN on takeoff or landing (767s and 747s epsecially). You end up spending the rest of the takeoff roll and early stages of climb watching that bag just 'edging' closer and closer to the edge, and all you can do is hope it doesn't fall on that small child or elderly person's head.
Similarly, whilst it's always nice that a passenger makes the effort to get up and close it; it's not too great when they get up whilst the aircraft is literally touching down!
N229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1952 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7569 times:
on the 747-100 and -200 series especially the bins over the center seats used to shudder and moan on takeoff and landing (and during turbulence), I don't remember it happening much on newer aircraft,,,
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7382 times:
Remember the Sidewalls & overhead bins are attached to the Bulkheads.As the Aircraft sways.The play increases & on older Aircraft a creaking sound could be heard.Its not that the Aircraft structure is creaking.
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5734 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7243 times:
Quoting N229NW (Reply 4): on the 747-100 and -200 series especially the bins over the center seats used to shudder and moan on takeoff and landing (and during turbulence), I don't remember it happening much on newer aircraft,,,
Oh yes it does! I'm not talking about the movement and rattlling that you hear on the take-off roll. I'm talking about a gradual, gentle creaking sound as the wings take over and lift the aircraft off the ground. You have to listen hard to hear it.
GCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7233 times:
Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter): I've been flying for over 30 years, but only recently have noticed that on widebodies the overhead bins creak on takeoff and landing. Not surprising when you consider the stresses on the airframe, but have any other a.netters noticed this?
Very true. I noticed this when operating a positioning flight in our B737-800. The cabin of course was empty and I was sitting at the overwings. You notice it a lot more if you sit in the middle I think. You hear the creaking and moaning of the lockers quite loudly. Quite weird.
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7215 times:
Quoting GCDEG (Reply 7): Very true. I noticed this when operating a positioning flight in our B737-800.
Yes Ive noticed this also on FRs 738's. I've not noticed it on 737 classics or on A32X, so I think it must be a characteristic of the aircraft. I thought it might have been the way in which the overhead lockers are mounted on the airframe? Maybe washers are being compressed or something like that?
Intereting that you noticed it in the middle of the aircraft....Ive heard it all over.
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Rheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
Can be noticed at the moment the trailing edge flaps go to fully deployed on final approach, which icreases the nose-down moment of the wing by quite a margin. This needs to be compensated for by increased download on the horizontal stab to keep the planes's nose trimmed level/high. This in turn excerts a strong bending moment on the fuselage elongating it along its spine, where the overhead bins are mounted. This makes them crackle and creak.
QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6957 times:
I have noticed this on all my flights. It has become second nature to not pay attention to it over the years. The aircraft I have seen it worse on a RG 737-500 I believe it was. It was on my flight from MAO to BVB and we hit a bit of terbulance on aproach and the bins were bouncing and and swaying. When we touched down and were putting on reverse thrusters the bins looked like they were all going to fall down! About 6 popped open and bags fell.
Nzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6809 times:
We used to have a plane in our fleet that was exceptionally bad even the toilets used to shake on takeoff and landing..It used ro an ex Ansett Australia 767-200er reg in NZ colours was ZK-NBA .. Now that was a true experience especially overwing on my first flight on that bird i thought the toilets were going to fall down on our crew seats..
MEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5603 times:
I was flying MP from AMS-MCO about 2 years ago...and shortly after take off all the bins throughout the plane instantly opened and a couple of bags fell, including this guys laptop that was seating infront of me. He was pissed. It was awkward, there was litte turbulence but not so much that all the over head cabins would fall.
Toering From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5463 times:
Last year we were departing ORD on a UAL 777 in heavy winds, and as we banked to the left, the whole plane shook and twisted. Bins were creaking and twisting, it was rather violent inside the aircraft. I have never seen that before, and I hope I never see it again. The middle bins looked as if the were going one way and the plane the other, almost as if they were attached by springs. One of the bins opened and a FA was real quick to stand and gracefully shut the bin with one hand. I'll remember that flight for a long time.