Stewardess4u From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16446 times:
In 1990 all airlines dropped the weight requirement. Weight is a matter of pride and also reflects on the company image, I feel flight attendants should still maintain their weight to a healthy, yet attractive figure. So many flight attendants today have allowed themselves to balloon up to unbelievable proportions. It has changed the image of the flight attendant to that of a fast food worker. I remember being smashed against the back bulkhead having to share my jumpseat with big mamma out of DTW. It makes those of us that DO take pride in the uniform look bad. NWA was voted by a men's magazine as having the most unattractive flight attendants. That's embarassing and it's just unacceptable to me.....
Iflyswa From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16424 times:
Well, I'm sure things have changed a lot in hiring practices since 1985 at airlines and other businesses across the board. A key thing to remember is that these were guidelines for hiring. If a flight attendant met the requirements initially, hired in, and then put on a few pounds, I don't believe an airline would actually fire or take other action against that person. Certainly a diet consisting of airport, hotel, and fast food makes this a real scenario, and to some degree, at least, I think airlines are understanding. All of the flight attendants I know personally are trim and in good health, but I've seen others that aren't as fit and do the job just as well. Physiological changes happen over years, and everybody's bound to gain a little as they age. To an airline, I would suppose these changes don't affect the quality of service a flight attendant offers to Customers, nor would it negate the years of experience that comes about through hard work and dedication to one's job role. A company would be absolutely out of line to make weight--or any other physical feature--a priority over these.
However, I'm sure extreme cases have arisen where action had to be taken, if for instance sigifiant weight gain becomes prohibitive to performing job functions.
[Edited 2007-03-18 04:37:04]
Opinions expressed by "iflyswa" are not those of Southwest Airlines Officers, Directors, or Employees.
Skyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16401 times:
I don't know how this one FA we have does her job without disrupting passengers. Then again there is 1 328 captain I'd like to see him try and fit through the little escape hatch over the cockpit. But while we're on FAs, our company states that they must be able to lift 45lbs. Let me tell you that I'd hate to be on a flight with a lot of those FAs, they can't even lift the door up without our help.
MarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16366 times:
My understanding is that the only weight requirement on US carriers is that the flight attendant must be able to be seated in their jumpseat without the need for an extension seat-belt. (Extensions are not approved for jumpseats). If they are too large to secure themselves, they cannot fly.
Is that correct?
Release your seat-belts and get out! Leave everything!
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16363 times:
CO had weigh ins up until the latter part of 1987. I went through them during training. Thankfully, that is gone.
As for the comment above:
Quoting Stewardess4u (Reply 1): It has changed the image of the flight attendant to that of a fast food worker
That is really sad you equate the two (not that the fast food industry is bad, mind you). In my 20+ years, I have never equated the two. Interesting.
Sure you can look good in a uniform, or not, but I would rather have someone who is able open the door and get my ass out of a burning wreckage than worry about how they look in the process.
Weight in proportion to height will never equate to customer service skills. You (and I do not mean you, specifically) could be the "perfect size", but lack severely in customer service (there are a few who slipped through). How does crappy service reflect on the company, if you look good in the uniform? (I can see the complaint letter - She/he wasn't all that friendly or nice, but they sure looked good in their uniform)
That and I am not onboard for eye-candy (unless you find a 6', 110kg, bearded guy is eye candy, hell, aren't I too old (42) to be classified as eye-candy, anyway?).
DTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16349 times:
If you try to go by what the goverment or American Medical Assoc. guide lines. We all would have nothing but ribs showing. Even my Dr. states the sizes and the wait is way off. It does not take into consideration ones bone mass. That make a big difference. I'm 5'10 and their is not way I could or ever weigh in at 149 lbs. I could see 180 or 190. But, not 149 lbs.
Pualani From United States of America, joined May 2004, 302 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16187 times:
Quoting Iflyswa (Reply 10): I believe the given requirements were for female applicants only.
When I started applying with the airlines for a flight attendant position. The 1st airline I went to was the late TWA and for my height(5'8) I needed to be no heavier than 158lbs and I was 160lbs. The interviewer told me to come back when I had lost the 2 lbs. I thank that guy all the time that I didnt get hired. That was Dec 85' and I was hired by HA in Oct 86'. Now I am on the wrong side of 200 lbs but provide outstanding customer service and safety and at 41 , I dont need to be eye candy.
VHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 16018 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 7): Sure you can look good in a uniform, or not, but I would rather have someone who is able open the door and get my ass out of a burning wreckage than worry about how they look in the process.
I have (as a passenger, and as a F/A) come across some of the most professional, friendly, fantastic flight attendants who happen to be a little larger than average. Similarly, there's some very horrible, unprofessional slim ones out there. Basically, to me (whether on a flight as crew or as pax), a person's weight should not even come into the equation. As long as they are professional, meet the company requirements for safety, and take pride in their appearance and grooming.
As for my pet hate; slim or large, blonde or brunette, male or female, I cannot stand crew who do not take any pride in the way they look and/or don't meet company grooming standards (which, thankfully at QF, are quite high). There's nothing worse than a crewmember who looks like they just rolled out of bed and onto the crew bus; or in some cases, rolled all the way to the airport!!
Stewardess4u From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 15818 times:
My post above was aimed at VERY large FA's who do need a jumpseat seatbelt extension. We all gain weight over the years. The whole,"stick figure" thing is not healthy either. I'm talking more along the lines of what VHXLR8 above was saying. Not taking care of oneself and following uniform guidlines. If your a little overwieght, but follow the guidlines and are professional, then no harm done-except maybe your own health.
It's also proven that if you look good, you feel good and that is what the airlines want. They want you to provide outstanding customer service and be attractive. This is from a service stand point. The safety issues are a whole different ball of wax. That's why we go to re-current every year. You can look like stewardess Barbie, but you have to be able to evacute an aircraft and provide emergency care as well.
I also remember the "weigh-ins" at Pan Am back in 1989.....they were scary and a lot of FA's had eating disorders. Those days are gone, but that doesn't mean everything goes out the window either,
IAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 15684 times:
Quoting MarkHKG (Reply 5): My understanding is that the only weight requirement on US carriers is that the flight attendant must be able to be seated in their jumpseat without the need for an extension seat-belt. (Extensions are not approved for jumpseats). If they are too large to secure themselves, they cannot fly.
That is pretty much the standard used with American carriers. Some also state that weight must be in proportion to height (a subjective policy that is very loosely interpreted if at all). My airline had us walk though a space that aproximated the aisle size of our aircraft in our pre-employment physical. Some airlines also check weight by seing if you fit through an emergency exit window.
These weight charts are always so ridiculous. I would look revolting bony and sickly at 129 not to mention I'd feel awful and unhealthy. I look best between 140-150. I'm a bit over that now but I'd rather be my current weight and be able to enjoy the sports and activities I like so much than be scrawny and weak.
Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 8): If you try to go by what the goverment or American Medical Assoc. guide lines. We all would have nothing but ribs showing.