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Malev's First New 767-300ER  
User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8533 times:

Hi Guys!

First I want to appologize for doing Copyright violation. It was my first picture I loaded up here and I did not really know how it worked out. Next time I should read the rules first.  Smile

So here is a link.

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=600923

So again, when will MA get it and where will it fly?


Best regards. Tom


Tom from Cologne
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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8493 times:

Are KLM replacing their 767-300s with A330-200s?

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25137 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8470 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 1):

Last B767 Flight At KLM Imminent (by HB-IWC Mar 1 2007 in Civil Aviation)



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8296 times:

What is happening to Malev's 767-200ERs?

User currently offlineCHabu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8189 times:

Quoting TommyBP251b (Thread starter):
So again, when will MA get it and where will it fly?

Delivery is scheduled for this month, so assume it will depart AMS very soon.

To bad my pics aren't A.Net quality:


MyAviation.net:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photographer © Chris Ufkes


MyAviation.net:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photographer © Chris Ufkes



AFAIK, the aircraft hasn't departed yet.

Bye, Chris.


User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8130 times:

Hi Guys!

Can someone explain to me why they paint the Hungarian Reg on it and overtape it after with the Netherland Reg?

Best Regards. Tom



Tom from Cologne
User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8080 times:

Quoting TommyBP251b (Reply 5):

Because they have painted the reg on the aircraft during the painting process in AMS, but it isn't yet on the Hungarian register, and still on the Dutch register and is still flying, so it has to display the Dutch reg AFAIK.

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8074 times:

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 6):

Thanks°!



Tom from Cologne
User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2953 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7865 times:

Didn't Malev operate 763ER (one or two) alongside their two 762ERs for a short time in the 1990s?
If yes, then it's not the first time.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7855 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 8):
Didn't Malev operate 763ER (one or two) alongside their two 762ERs for a short time in the 1990s?
If yes, then it's not the first time.

Yes, they did.

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...truecount=false&engine_version=6.0

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7831 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 8):
Didn't Malev operate 763ER (one or two) alongside their two 762ERs for a short time in the 1990s?



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
Yes, they did

HA-LHC B767-375ER 25864/426t04/1992-10/1992
HA-LHD B767-3P6ER 24484/260t08/2000-01/2002 - ex. A40-GH.

This first HA-LHC came in even before the B767-27GER, which were both delivered on April 1st, 1993. It was intended for Canadian Airlines, but CP was in such a bad financial shape then that the aircraft was never delivered.

[Edited 2007-03-19 00:03:30]

User currently offlineRampkontroler From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 859 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7797 times:

Here is HA-LHC from 1992:

http://www.opshots.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-244


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7762 times:

Will the interior differ from the -200ERs already in the fleet?

User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7711 times:

As others have already said, it's not the first B763 for MA.

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 12):
Will the interior differ from the -200ERs already in the fleet?

We can only hope, but since the aircraft spent a very few days only in hangar after KLM withdrew it from its fleet, I expect KLM seat layout...

Malév has decided to phase out the B762s and replace them with 3 B763. This process will end in 2009. so every year from now, a new B763 will come and one B762 will leave the fleet during the winter time. Moreover MA announced BKK for summer schedule as well as 15 NRT charters (note: these charters are different from JL summer charters to BUD).
The new B763 will be registered as HA-LHC and it is supposed to fly on BUD-YYZ-BUD route during this summer season, however, I expect that due to high demand we will see it sometimes on both JFK and BKK flight as well.


User currently offlineRetroLivery From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7656 times:

This is fabulous news, I hope this represents a step towards an eventual overhaul of their longhaul fleet. Their short-haul fleet, I've heard, is nothing to cry about though. I'll be flying MA later this week on an FCO-BUD-FCO run (737-600 both ways). Now we just need to get CSA to pick up some 763's to help those A310's they've been clinging onto...

Not that the A310's are to be taken lightly- I was lucky enough to fly PRG-JFK in C Class on a 310 in 2002 and the service was simple outstanding.



A3, AA, AC, AI, AK, AM, AP, AZ, B6, BA, CO, DL, EK, EY, FL, FI, FR, KL, KM, LH, MA, MH, MS, OA, OK, OS, SR, TA, TG, U2,
User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7592 times:

Quoting RetroLivery (Reply 14):
Now we just need to get CSA to pick up some 763's to help those A310's they've been clinging onto...

slightly offtopic, but they are likely to pick the A330/A350 instead of the B767/B787.

Quoting RetroLivery (Reply 14):
I'll be flying MA later this week on an FCO-BUD-FCO run (737-600 both ways).

if you fly on C class, you will have a very comfy _real_ C class seat. if you fly Y class, try to get a seat in the first 4 row as they feature C class seats with some extra inches of legroom. Have a nice fly!


User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

Quoting CHabu (Reply 4):

Delivery is scheduled for this month, so assume it will depart AMS very soon.

To bad my pics aren't A.Net quality

I personally think your pics are great! I was very happy to discover them on myaviation.

Quoting Dean (Reply 13):
We can only hope, but since the aircraft spent a very few days only in hangar after KLM withdrew it from its fleet, I expect KLM seat layout...

I thought MA was planning on having a "signature" interior for HA-LHC. Perhaps Aeroplex at BUD will install the new seats when she arrives in Budapest. I believe Aeroplex did the interior upgrades to the previous HA-LHC.

Since Air bridge wants to invest in MA and expand its capacity I'm hopping for a small B787 or A350 order relatively soon.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6328 times:

No oneWorld logo on the plane......

User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6304 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 17):
No oneWorld logo on the plane......

I noticed that too. But the OneWorld logo is just a small round sticker so it must be easy to apply.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6280 times:

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 16):
Since Air bridge wants to invest in MA and expand its capacity I'm hopping for a small B787 or A350 order relatively soon.

Well, don't expect so much  Smile The "new" long-haul fleet will be complete in 2009. Boeing has some killer number of orders for the B787 which occupies the factory lines until a while. A350 EIS is around 2012-2013. Or even later, sorry, I cannot follow Airbus... And MA is unlikely to be one of the early-customers for any of those types. So, to be realistic, those B763s will fly for MA until 2016 at least...

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 16):
I thought MA was planning on having a "signature" interior for HA-LHC. Perhaps Aeroplex at BUD will install the new seats when she arrives in Budapest. I believe Aeroplex did the interior upgrades to the previous HA-LHC.

The aircraft is still in AMS and I wonder what else can they do now, since all the paint work and test flights are done... I guess it's getting a new interior...


User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

Quoting Dean (Reply 19):
Well, don't expect so much The "new" long-haul fleet will be complete in 2009. Boeing has some killer number of orders for the B787 which occupies the factory lines until a while. A350 EIS is around 2012-2013. Or even later, sorry, I cannot follow Airbus... And MA is unlikely to be one of the early-customers for any of those types. So, to be realistic, those B763s will fly for MA until 2016 at least...

Hey Dean,

I know, wishful thinking. I guess it's all up to Malev's new owners. If AirBridge wants MA to have a stronger presence in the Asian market and increase the number of long-haul charters, a larger long-haul fleet will be required.

Once LHA is withdrawn from the fleet in the fall, MA will be back to 2 B767. Once the second B763 arrives LHB will be withdrawn. Malev's two B762s have a very low number of cycles therefore making them very attractive for future customers.

Do you know the seating capacity for the LHC? Malev originally said that the B763s will have 40 more seats than the B762s. I hope MA will try to maintain its reputation as having very spacious B767s.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6019 times:

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 20):
Once LHA is withdrawn from the fleet in the fall, MA will be back to 2 B767.

Nope. The first B762 will be withdrawn in the same time when the second B763 arrives. So the number of the long-haul aircraft won't decrease.

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 20):
Do you know the seating capacity for the LHC? Malev originally said that the B763s will have 40 more seats than the B762s. I hope MA will try to maintain its reputation as having very spacious B767s.

16 C + 213 Y = 229 pax - the aircraft will arrive to BUD on the 20th of March.
Also, there are rumours about lie-flat C product (what I would warmly welcome) and PTV on Y. Tomorrow I can tell you what is true from these rumours...

Andras


User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Quoting Dean (Reply 21):
Nope. The first B762 will be withdrawn in the same time when the second B763 arrives. So the number of the long-haul aircraft won't decrease.

When is the second B763 due? Apparently LHA was listed on speednews as available for lease starting December 2007.

Quoting Dean (Reply 21):
16 C + 213 Y = 229 pax - the aircraft will arrive to BUD on the 20th of March.
Also, there are rumours about lie-flat C product (what I would warmly welcome) and PTV on Y. Tomorrow I can tell you what is true from these rumours...

Thanks, I hope they are!

KrisYYZ|


User currently offlineCHabu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5761 times:

Quoting Dean (Reply 21):
the aircraft will arrive to BUD on the 20th of March

According to the local forum, the aircraft is still in AMS due to some minor work that came to light during it's test-flight.

Bye, Chris.


User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

Yeah, I was about to say that it's still in AMS and estimated arrival time to BUD is tomorrow now... I will believe it when I see it in BUD  Smile

25 L410Turbolet : Well, it would be great if they'd (CSA) finally make up their mind about the future of their long haul operations and picked SOMETHING before it's to
26 Dean : Hi, Some update on the topic: The aircraft is still in AMS due to unexpected maintenance works on the engine(s). During the test flights some minor en
27 KrisYYZ : Thanks for the update Dean! Interesting news, especially since the last MA B763 (HA-LHD) had engine problems as well. So was PH-BZM flying for KLM wi
28 Dean : I think none of the long-haul flights will be cancelled, but it's quite likely that BKK will be downgraded to B738 for this time. (possibly with fuel
29 Fyano773 : Maybe some charters to CUN. What engines power this plane? Fyano
30 KrisYYZ : HA-LHC (PH-BZM) has 2x GE CF6-80C2B6F Malev's current B762Er's have 2x CF680C2B4F I believe MA is one of only a few carriers that chose the CF6s for
31 RoyalAtlantis : I know it may seem somewhat superficial but...they could get a lot of business out of a re-haul of their livery. Like many of the former eastern block
32 KrisYYZ : True, MA has had the same c/s for a while now but I think it's still works. Not that a little change would hurt, but I doubt anyone associates the cu
33 TommyBP251b : Hey Kriss! You are my real MA-Expert. I have a question on a slighty different topic. Which planes are checked in the Lufthansa Technik Hangar in BUD
34 Post contains links KrisYYZ : LOL, well I'm not really an "expert". My entire family in Hungary worked for Malev at some point in their life so they have some good inside info. I
35 Post contains images LTU932 : If one of the big leasing companies (e.g. ILFC, GECAS) have them available, maybe MA could lease new 787s from them. Just a possibility worth mention
36 Post contains images Dean : Again, a quite unpleasant update on the topic: The crew who went to AMS to take home the aircraft, came home... without the aircraft Actually more tha
37 PHKLM : This sounds very strange for a plane that has been in service until recently. Either they did a very lousy job overhauling her, or KLM must be using
38 Dean : haha, currently it is estimated to land at BUD around 17:00LT, tomorrow (28 March).
39 TommyBP251b : Hey Dean! Was that an early April Joke? Greetz Tom
40 KrisYYZ : Wow!! That is very surprising, I would have thought that KLM keeps it's planes in better shape. I hope all the BUD spotters will be out in full effec
41 Azstagecoach : Don't these delivery test flights often turn up many minor problems? An airline taking delivery of an aircraft would want everything to work before ac
42 Post contains images Dean : not exactly it is the info what MA staff told me, so dont blame me. blame him (haha, i'm such a good friend )
43 Post contains links KrisYYZ : Some info on MA's summer schedule. http://www.malev.hu/BP/ENG/I_NEWS_ENG/2007-0326-0932-52CFVG.asp Dean, Do you know if MA is planning on applying the
44 Dean : It was only because the estimated delivery date was originally before 1 April, 2007. Usually, stickers are really easy to apply so I wouldn't be surp
45 TommyBP251b : Dean, I have to appologise! I guess she arrived yesterday! I picked up my parents at BUD this morning and there she was standing in front of the ACE
46 TommyBP251b : Hi Guys! Its me again. I can confirm my message above now. Its there and has already the ONEWORLD sticker on Tom
47 Post contains images Brons2 : Is this why 4U is leasing MD-80 over the summer? Powerbacks at CGN? Back on topic, congrats to Malev on the delivery of their 763ER.
48 Post contains links KrisYYZ : HA-LHC is in operation now. Unfortunately there will not be PTV's in economy. http://www.malev.hu/BP/ENG/I_NEWS_ENG/2007-0413-1405-00UMAB.asp KrisYYZ
49 Post contains links and images OceansWorld : Thanks for the link. The picture looks very familiar.... View Large View MediumPhoto © Viktor László - Budapest Aviation Photography
50 AF022 : A few months one of the Malev 767-200s was listed as being available for sale or for lease starting in November. Does anyone know if this aircraft has
51 Post contains images EK413 : Umm, I recommend the Topic be renamed "Malev's First Second Hand B767-306ER" EK413
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